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El Civ
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Ohio, USA
Jul 2002
time: 00:21
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Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
I knew about invention/navigation and trade bonuses.  Now that we have Nav, I see no reason not to head for Inv and Leo's, my usual strategy at this point. Turns all our defenders into better defenders eventually - more important, it will eventually create engineers  and turn our unhappy triremes into galleons 
Having said all that, getting Leos, Magellan and Adam Smith should mean a big win even without Copes (and Isaac) - with those two as well, we can win with style. |
Well, I passed over Invention in favor of Theory of Gravity. I did it in order to get Newton's and make Sticky Mouse fantastic in science, what with the stars overhead awaiting us. Were it not for Newton's I would have begun a university in SM. I have a tendency to focus too much on one thing (science in this case) and ignore others. Magellan's is still available, should the next in line wish to go after it.
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El Civ
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Ohio, USA
Jul 2002
time: 00:21
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Civus Minimus is notified that it is his turn to lead the Senate. His first order of business is to ask his wife if it is allowed. Permission granted. His second order of business is to order the nation’s musicians to cease all music, save “Ode to Joy”, until something wonderful can be played upon their instruments. Civus shouts, “Give me pianos! Give me horns! Give me a walking bass! I want jazz music!”
900 Egyptians launch a sneak attack upon our crusader outside Eye on Egypt. Our eye was not enough upon them to see this coming. Our crusader becomes a martyr and the Egyptian dip is two squares away and unable to be stopped. Sticky Mouse builds Copes and tired scientists are ordered to begin work on Adam Smith’s straight away.
Hides>Sticky 56g (must have been a discount merchant).
920 Egyptian dip steals Sanitation (Chinese get it from GL).
Silk>Sticky 162g
940 French develop Engineering. Now they can write hard to read technical manuals! French and Chinese set out on the crusade of an English king, but the Carth’s have almost completed it. We discover Physics and begin researching Theory of Gravity.
Silk>Sticky 147g,
960 Carth’s build King Richard’s.
Silk> Sticky 8g (whoops). Revenge! The Egyptian horse is slain by our Crusader (changed from caravan after the attack—back to caravan). Lager founded east of Erehwon. One day it will grow to see whales! I decide to go diplomatic. The French try to extort 650g from us. Hah! All any of them have to offer are crap techs and I am not offered the change to demand tribute from any of them. Is it my breath?
980
1000 We trade with the Chinese, because they ask nice, and get Monarchy. We also discover Theory of Gravity. I choose Feudalism. Crusader slays elephant outside Eye on Egypt, but still not a vet.
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1040 Unrest in Sarzana. A lounge singer is tapped to soothe the grumpy. Adam Smith’s built in Sticky Mouse. Apples begin falling on Newton’s head.
1060 Egyptians (and Chinese via GL) develop Mono. A boat with a dip from Erehwon is on its way to Egypt as we speak.
1080 Barbs land at Mouseport and an Egyptian horse kills our phalanx at Eye. We also discover Feudalism and we next begin researching Chemistry. Newton’s will wipe out our bank account to rush it now so I begin Sun Tzu’s in Lucky Git just in case (next best choice after Sticky Mouse). Crusader at Eye kills vile Egyptian horse and is finally made a vet. We trade Sanitation for Iron Working (bah!) with the Indians and once again I am not offered the choice to demand tribute from anyone (the Egyptians won’t even speak to us).
1100 More barbs land at Mouseport and seize it! Game notified me, “Barbarians launch sneak attack”. No kidding! And to think I trusted them. Shorter Toga production changed to crusader to win it back.
1120 Barb kills innocent caravan that cannot escape by Mousegate.
Dye>Senator’s Beach 30g.
Avenging crusader from Shorter Toga has reached Sticky Mouse, but Mousegate is only size 1.
Notes: I am afraid I stunk up the place with this turn and set us back—we lost Mousegate to barbarians on my watch! My humblest apologies. There is a settler south of Monkfish on a decent spot to build, but I didn’t want to disrupt our karma with another city after seeing some unrest. Speaking of Monkfish, I stupidly built a food caravan from there as I forgot its location on the map. The caravan by Hangchow is meant for Tatung. Population is 5,210,000, discoveries come every 5 turns, income is 88g minus 7g for expenses (thank you Adam Smith), we have 937 gold (had to rush a couple things or we’d be over 1000). Newton’s is just over half done and chemistry is about ľ researched. I did improve 2 or 3 spots where roads were lacking near cities, after the goto incident earlier. Civus Minimus slinks from the Senate to the arms of his wife, claiming feelings of emasculation and begging to be made to feel like a man again.
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La Fayette
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albi, france
Oct 2000
time: 06:21
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I mentioned 'Starving Silicon' because the terrain around Sticky Mouse is quite rough. It might help us grow the city much more easily to 'real big size'.
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El Civ
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Ohio, USA
Jul 2002
time: 00:21
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I've a few questions for the Senate. I understand that losing your warrior costs shields when it is upgraded. However, as the warrior in later times serves no purpose in defense, and you must build at least one other unit for that purpose, isn't having the warrior around when you could be rid of him still costing you shields? Or are cities less likely to revolt with 3 defenders (one a warrior) instead of 2 defenders (say, two pikemen)?
I also see your point about not rush buying the wonder but building it with camels, even if they are rush-bought. However, as camels intended solely for wonder building are food caravans, if one is not used how does it help to send it away in trade, since you won't get gold for it?
I am also aware that tech choices are open to opinion and debate. I did not know the civlopedia was wrong where Newton's is concerned and believed it to be a full doubling of science. Brian Reynolds, you owe Sticky Mouse 50% in science 
I suppose I've not played enough to know the fine details of this game. I will apply myself, but should any and all wish to give pointers (especially prior to my turns) I would be grateful. The Senate will have to tarry along with a weak member...unless I am impeached  
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26-07-2002 04:14
, but the established cities do not need a granary they will grow by WLTTD - the only cities to gain from granaries are the new ones to aid their growth to three -- I don't see food caravans being used much in this game
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) 'Das Kapital' succession game, I allocated my workers at the start of the game badly. La Fayette called me on it, and pointed me at the GL entry - and I learned something. And guess what... my own SP games have benefited. So it's a win-win, and everyone benefits... if there were no setbacks or difficult decisions, none of us would have any fun - fun being learning or kibitzing.
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