05-08-2002 02:22									#1
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Any ideas, what sort of posts we'd have? The ministers' role would of course be arranging polls on different courses of action and helping out people with their 'expert opinion'. I suggest that we need at least

- A Terraforming advisor (terraforming)
- A Science/Research advisor (tech rate, tech goal)
- An Infrastructure (Build?) advisor (energy rate, base structures, wonders)
- A Military advisor (he might have a Probe advisor?)
- A Diplomatic advisor (whoo, Planetary Council!)
- others?

I also think that the writers among us (cough) should do the Historian stuff, maybe write SMACfics with events from the game, you know. Might be fun and interesting.

	05-08-2002 02:25									#2
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i am for everthing this rulez.........they ask the people what they want......the tell the president (or what ever, we need a good name for it or will it be factionrelated?) and he will do it....

	05-08-2002 02:25									#3
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Yeah, you're right. Ande has a similar thread but this is more "complete".

I think the first thing for us to do is to elect a president who will then decide what advisors will he have...

	05-08-2002 02:26									#4
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Perhaps rename Infrastructure Advisor to Economy Advisor.

	05-08-2002 02:26									#5
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good thinkin' Kass. I posted samekind of thread a MINUTE earlier

	05-08-2002 02:28									#6
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Not Advisors, Ministers! It sounds cooler.

M@ni@c> Minister of Infrastructure and Economy?

	05-08-2002 02:30									#7
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i do not thing we should give the president so much power. we should split the power up in the different ministers. and let the president be the acting power on the advice/orders of these ministers

	05-08-2002 02:32									#8
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...anyone behind my idea of electing the president first?

And he would then have the final say on which ministers we should have.

	05-08-2002 02:33									#9
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OK Kass you can have it. this is the "Official Thread For Ministers and Advisors". I'll ask that other one to be deleted.

Civ3 Demo Game has These Ministers/Advisors:
- President
- Vice-President
- Minister of Imperial Expansion
- Minister of Public Works
- Minister of the Economy
- Minister of the Military
- Minister of Science
- Minister of Foreign Affairs
- City Planner
- Historian

EDIT: and Civ2 Demo Game has 1 less.

	05-08-2002 02:33									#10
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We won't have a president, we'll have a Commissioner, if we go for PK's.

Minister of I and E could deal with the energy rate, Secret Projects, Base Structures and Crawlers.

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i agree ministers not advisors they do not hold power. (at least the name doesnt sound very powerfull )

	05-08-2002 02:36									#12
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- President = "Commissioner" or "Leader"?
- Vice-President
- Minister of Imperial Expansion = Minister of Terraforming and Colonisation
- Minister of Public Works = Minister of T and C
- Minister of the Economy = Minister of Infrastructure and Economy
- Minister of the Military = Supreme Military Commander or something like that, Minister of Defence maybe
- Minister of Science = Minister of Research maybe?
- Minister of Foreign Affairs = Diplomatic Advisor, Minister of Diplomacy?
- City Planner = Minister of I and E
- Historian = Chronicler?

What I mean is we combine some tasks and rename the posts to get a bit more original.

	05-08-2002 02:38									#13
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How do I get the feeling I'm not being listened here

Comissioner (as Kassi pointed), I say, Comissioner first. Perhaps I should make a thread about it? So, that those who wish to take the charge could nominate themselves and we could have a poll?

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And I think we could have several Chroniclers... some Ministers could maybe even double as Chroniclers.

	05-08-2002 02:39									#15
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What is the difference between a *Base* Planner and a Minister of Imperial Expansion?

Historian = Librarian

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minister of i :building new cities such
minister of e :energyrate secret projects and 'gold'
minister of pb = minister of terraforming :crawlers and terraformers
minister of m :all military units (big task maybe split this one up?)
minister of s :duh
minister of f :duh
cityplanner = other name :ever building exept secret project!

(all names have to changes)
what do you think

	05-08-2002 02:39									#17
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Yes, a Commissioner first would be a good idea, so that he can start sorting things up.

	05-08-2002 02:41									#18
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Okay, I'll start a thread about it.

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M@ni@c, "City Planners" do not handle colonisation, they handle terraforming and building city structures. This in Civ2. An Exp. minister deals with, methinks exploration and city building.

	05-08-2002 02:42									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia What I mean is we combine some tasks and rename the posts to get a bit more original.

jeesh! and we could have a few more! so more people could have their spoons in the soup.

Ade: I think we should wait a little. (to more people to show up.)

	05-08-2002 02:42									#21
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yes ok i think that the Commissioner must not have absolut power here. we have to make rules of some kind

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DAMN! I'm too Slow!

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quote: Originally posted by Andemagne Ade: I think we should wait a little. (to more people to show up.)

great idea but we can brainstorm for now

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Ah yes. Thanks for the explanation.

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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia M@ni@c, "City Planners" do not handle colonisation, they handle terraforming and building city structures. This in Civ2. An Exp. minister deals with, methinks exploration and city building.

i agree. is there any one that wants to order all of this thing in one files too see what we have. i could do it but my english isnt superb so maybe someone else. than we would already have a libraien (forgot the good word)

	05-08-2002 02:49									#26
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I should know, I was a City Planner once... Historian = Librarian - excellent thinking!

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DBtS, you mean arrange a list of the Minister posts and the tasks? Well we've done that for a bit haven't we already?

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Ande>
Yep, I started a thread already, but it's all for finding out who's intrested in the job. Like pointed before, brainstorming.

	05-08-2002 02:56									#29
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yes of course but they are lot of ideas in one big chaos. what name do we pick how much ministers do we pick i think if we leave this to the Commissioner not everone will be ok with it (ofcourse we can change something after the first month) and what about a constition (not right spelled is it?)

	05-08-2002 02:57									#30
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Commissioner - plays the game, oversees the Ministers
Vice Commissioner - Commissioner's aide etc.
Minister of Defence - controls military units
(Probe Advisor - provides needed info to Ministers)
Minister of Infrastructure and Economics - SP's, base structures, trade, energy
Minister of Social Affairs - Psi rate, specialists, drones, base structures etc.
Minister of Diplomacy - Contacts with other factions, Planetary Council stuff
Minister of Terraforming and Colonisation - controls Colony Pods and Terraformers
Minister of Research - tech rate, research goal

That's initially.