07-11-2003 09:08									#901
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Not a problem, I just wanted to make sure you were using the correct game file.

	07-11-2003 11:21									#902
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No turn messages to be relayed to our neighbors.

The winds were contrary unto the ships of Knossus, and my Lord Minos was unable to make the trip to Grotta for parlay with King Mursilis. The King then attempted to negotiate with the Royal Nephew.

The King now realizes why Lord Minos had sent the Royal Nephew to the farthest colony of his realm. A very disagreeable fellow, he demanded items not agreed upon in negotiations by post, and ignored my attempts to comply with the agreement of Kings.

Eventually the King was able to impress upon the young man that his exile would likely be extended if he did not take at least one of the gifts of the Great Kings of Hatte and Aegyptos. He saw no wisdom in our majestic way of government, nor in the drawing of maps. But some… perversity… in him drew him to our camels. Our language has no word for such things, and Our Dignity forbids we elaborate, lest the gods be angered.

Thy nephew, Lord Minos, shall return to Knossus with the choicest breeder pairs and sucklings of camels in the herd of the Great King Mursilis. Herders and husbandmen, as well as craftsmen skilled in making of saddle and paniers, shall accompany him. May the gods grant them fair winds and calm seas.

The King prays that Lord Minos find another post for his Nephew, and find another emissary to dispatch to Grotta with which Our concerns and Yours may be met.

[edit: minor corrections + smilies)

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	07-11-2003 16:21									#903
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For many years we have spotted leaky tubs with dingy orange ensigns wallowing in the waves of the Pontus, but their sailors have feared to put ashore at the sight of mighy Hatte patrols. Now a company of Charioteers from our Western Corps has encountered some scruffy-looking riders bearing similar orange banners on their lances in the valley of the great river Askanios.

The Captain's loyal Mysian guide informs us that these are the children of Iapetos, men of Mycenae. Here they call themselves "Ionians" and fight against the mighty forces of Troy. The Saga of the great Trojan hero Paris, slain by a poisoned arrow from a bow of magick wrought by Herakles himself, have echoed in the Courts of Hattusas.

Our faithful Captain entertained the company of riders there on the dusty banks of the Askanios. He taught the Grecian Captain the skills of Mapmaking, the gift of the Great King of Aegyptos to all the civilized world.

We informed these riders that the Hatte claim the straights of Bosphorus as our western boundary. The riders and the sailors on our coasts are welcome to visit our lands and shall be fairly treated by our Chieftains and Governors and Captains.

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	08-11-2003 21:33									#904
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Ancient regions, mostly the Greek names, with modern names in parentheses (note: modern spelling is often Bosporus rather than Bosphorus).

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	11-11-2003 06:46									#905
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	11-11-2003 06:50									#906
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Stefan, are you able to read e-mails at t-online.de? Did you reach my e-mails? I know you had problems with your comp...

	11-11-2003 15:05									#907
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To Egypt:
Moabite Swordsmen are eager to return home from the fertile hills of Wadi Rum. They have moved north, and will head back west next turn. We ask you not to obstruct their path.

To Persia:
Egyptian MapMaking has been passed on to your Ambassador. Our scouts in the east have moved away from your lands.

To Hatta: your scouts can move on again. We have arranged for your passage, so don't mind the irrigation, you are welcome in the rivervillage. If you decide to head east of Karkemish, your path will be clear as well.

To Babylon: enjoy the fruit of the Egyptian labour in regard to the craft of Mapmaking.

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	12-11-2003 10:03									#908
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For the past several seasons, peaceful Egyptian traders have been waylaid and robbed by bandits in the vicinity of the Nubian city of Thebes. Seeking recompense and an end to the lawlessness, Pharoah dispatched emissaries to the city, but found his peaceful overtures rewarded with lies and evasions. Clearly it was time to show these criminals the full extent of their folly.

And at last justice is nigh, for today Egyptian roadbuilding crews completed the last stretch of military road between Abydos and Thebes - and along it marched an army of Egyptian Swordsmen, and, most fearsome of all to the denizens of walled Thebes, a train of mighty Ladder Towers! The siege has begun, and by all indications it won't be a long one!

On the self-same day on which the investment of Thebes was completed - and unbeknownst to most of the inhabitants of Egypt, an Engineering feat of awesome proportions was nearing completion. For off in the distant deserts south of Canaan, a weary band of laborers arrived beneath the walls of Petra - signalling the completion of a mighty road network extending from distant Thebes to the very shores of the Dead Sea!

To Mandaru my Brother - Pharoah's skirmishers have continued their journey eastwards, and no longer stand between thy men and their Moabite home.

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	15-11-2003 17:31									#909
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To Assyria: I would like to negotiate about territories now that map sharing is no longer a problem. If you can, please send me an email, because I lost the adress of the royal court in Niniveh
To all others: Sorry for any delay from now to the future. It might be that you will have to skip some of my turns in April/May (only meant as a forewarning), because school is getting serious now. Currently, I can still obey any time limit, but this may become problematic in the future.

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	18-11-2003 05:38									#910
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With some more good stories to tell wife & kids at home, our fearless horsemen travels back to south. At a good wine, he feels friendly welcomed by the Hatti folk. The wine was a really good one, and as a present we gladly received the wonderful advance of map making, which was gifted by the great egyptian king to the folks of the known world.
The wine was even excellent, so for some reason our mighty horsemen forgot to ask about exchanging the known geography on papyrus. We respect the Bosphorus as a kind of natural border between our folks, which might live in peaceful neighborhood in future.
We just claim to kick the butt of those treacherous citizens of troia, who abducted and raped in their unholiness the greek kings wife, Helena.
Maybe an exchange of maps will help our folks to negotiate any more borders.

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	20-11-2003 14:06									#912
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Don't snore too loudly, archer !
You should be busy playing your turn in the 'Sailing' succession game
I take care of Minos today.

	20-11-2003 20:03									#913
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I have been advised to play with Ae-3500p instead of Ae-3500b.
But my defenders now have turned to spies, I can see airbases and I own Advanced Flight.
Could anyone help?

	20-11-2003 23:26									#914
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Is the save in the scenario folder???

	21-11-2003 03:30									#915
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quote: Originally posted by Cyrion Is the save in the scenario folder???

yes it is

	21-11-2003 11:26									#916
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Make sure all scenario related files (rules.txt, unit.gif, etc) are in the same folder as your save-game.

	21-11-2003 21:21									#917
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I thought we had this all ironed out the other week!

	21-11-2003 22:03									#918
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quote: Originally posted by germanos Make sure all scenario related files (rules.txt, unit.gif, etc) are in the same folder as your save-game.

Yep, that's what I (clumsily) was asking...

	22-11-2003 15:38									#919
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quote: Originally posted by Kull On the self-same day on which the investment of Thebes was completed - and unbeknownst to most of the inhabitants of Egypt, an Engineering feat of awesome proportions was nearing completion. For off in the distant deserts south of Canaan, a weary band of laborers arrived beneath the walls of Petra - signalling the completion of a mighty road network extending from distant Thebes to the very shores of the Dead Sea! To Mandaru my Brother - Pharoah's skirmishers have continued their journey eastwards, and no longer stand between thy men and their Moabite home.

We congratulate our Egyptian Brother with his magnificent feat in Canaan. We ask our Brother if this road will be accesible for Assyrian traders who seek markets in Egypt?

Thy skirmishers can travel freely now in the Great Desert east of Moab. We thank you for thy help.



An assyrian envoy has been dispatched to Persia, carrying maps and the Royal Adress. We await a reply from the Great Persian King.

	22-11-2003 20:51									#920
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette I have been advised to play with Ae-3500p instead of Ae-3500b. But my defenders now have turned to spies, I can see airbases and I own Advanced Flight. Could anyone help?

There's no question that your game is not using the SoG unit.bmp and rules.txt files, so your savegame file is definitely in the wrong folder.

BTW, the name of the scenario folder (ending in b or p) isn't as important as the contents. Be sure that you've downloaded the PBEM version of SoG (available HERE) and follow the directions in the Readme-PBEM file with respect to folder location and naming convention.

	22-11-2003 21:13									#921
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quote: Originally posted by germanos We congratulate our Egyptian Brother with his magnificent feat in Canaan. We ask our Brother if this road will be accesible for Assyrian traders who seek markets in Egypt?

Indeed my Brother. In fact merchants from all nations are invited to travel along this road. Military Scouts investigating Egypt's Sphere of Influence inside the land of Canaan may use it sporadically, but must begin and end their day's journey in such fashion as not to inhibit the passage of Egyptian travelers. To encourage trade, this rule is waived in the case of caravans.

As a reminder to all Pharoah's Brothers, foreign military units are prohibited from entry into Egypt proper (Guards have been posted at the western edge of the Sinai Desert to remind those who lose their way.)

	23-11-2003 01:07									#922
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quote: Originally posted by Kull BTW, the name of the scenario folder (ending in b or p) isn't as important as the contents. Be sure that you've downloaded the PBEM version of SoG (available HERE) and follow the directions in the Readme-PBEM file with respect to folder location and naming convention.

Advice from the author is the best I can expect.
I shall do my best to test everything before monday and let you know.

	26-11-2003 00:18									#923
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And?

	26-11-2003 03:44									#924
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quote: Originally posted by germanos And?

and I have tested and checked anything I was able to test and check:
all the other savegames (for example the one sent by Stefan Härtel to Klaus Engel) work fine, but the one sent by Klaus to me doesn't.
Could someone d/load that save (pbem_bc_3060_to_ minoans.zip) and let me know if it works.

	26-11-2003 04:40									#925
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Strange...
I downloaded my own save again, but it works fine. Let's have another try, this time unzipped...
Good luck!

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	26-11-2003 04:51									#926
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I started to provide an e-mail hot-line service for La Fayette. I hope we will solve the problem.

	26-11-2003 11:39									#927
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette Could someone d/load that save (pbem_bc_3060_to_ minoans.zip) and let me know if it works.

It works fine here

	26-11-2003 18:52									#928
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette Could someone d/load that save (pbem_bc_3060_to_ minoans.zip) and let me know if it works.

and here

	26-11-2003 21:34									#929
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1) "Technical' report (from La Fayette)

As you all have understood, I am NOT a specialist in computer science . Anyway the new file sent by Klaus (unzipped) works like a charm (therefore I suppose there was a problem with MY unzipping his previous file ).
Apparently, the only remaining problem is that my foreign advisor tells me that I am in contact with 3 civs (which is the truth), but the 'chat with kings' tells me that I haven't met anyone yet.

2) "Historical" report (from Minos)

A peaceful Minoan skirmisher wandering along the Southern coast of Anatolia met a supposedly peaceful Assyrian skirmisher. The polite Minoan said 'hello', the supposedly polite Assyrian replied 'give me 300 gold'.
The Minoan said 'no thank you'. The Assyrian said 'war'.

Here is the point of view of Minos:

The Hittites asked for help from the Minoans a few years ago, because they had 'problems' with the Assyrians. The Minoans have therefore been allied with the Hittites since then. But meanwhile a cease fire has been signed between Assyrians and Hittites.
Therefore Minos sees no reason to be at war with Assyria any longer. He asks the Assyrian leader to tell his wandering skirmishers to behave more politely and feels ready to forget the incident.

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	26-11-2003 22:31									#930
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quote: Apparently, the only remaining problem is that my foreign advisor tells me that I am in contact with 3 civs (which is the truth), but the 'chat with kings' tells me that I haven't met anyone yet.

I think that's OK. For Civ2 engine you are in contact with 3 civs, but with no human civ.

quote: A peaceful Minoan skirmisher wandering along the Southern coast of Anatolia met a supposedly peaceful Assyrian skirmisher. The polite Minoan said 'hello', the supposedly polite Assyrian replied 'give me 300 gold'. The Minoan said 'no thank you'. The Assyrian said 'war'.

In such situations I think you should refuse any diplomatic contact with the AI.