18-10-2003 07:05									#811
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I PMed tanelorn now...

	18-10-2003 16:36									#812
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Sadly, I cannot commit myself to any PBEM's till early December. Sorry.

	18-10-2003 18:40									#813
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I appreciate the efforts being made to scare up some other players, but in the meantime here's a non-AI alternative:

Let Slowthinker (if he's willing), take on both the Babylonians AND the Greeks. The Babylonians seem to be a marginal civ at this point in the game, and the Greeks are literally at the other end of the world. Neither civ even shares the same neighbors, so it's basically impossible to "gang them up" on anyone.

If Kengel will accordingly agree to take on the Hittites, we'll have a full complement of players and can get this baby moving again.

Thoughts?

	18-10-2003 18:59									#814
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at Kull

If SlowThinker is willing, I say: Let's go!

	18-10-2003 20:06									#815
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Do you mean it is a temporary solution (the Greeks will be passed to first new player coming) or I will have a doubled civ with 2 capitals?
Anyway I am not very happy with that.
About temporary solution - I can't divide my mind, imagine both civs would want to build the same wonder.

I could agree but only as a last solution.
I will try to ask some more people.

	22-10-2003 02:29									#816
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Kulls suggestion sounds acceptable to me; we could set a kind of "deadline" for waiting for a new player (let's say end of oct.). If till then no new player appears, maybe Slowthinker might be persuaded to take over the greek preliminary?

	23-10-2003 01:00									#817
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Hmmmmm...
Your pressure forced me to get Straybow...

	23-10-2003 17:13									#818
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Thanks for the invite to assume Hittite position. Have d/l the scen, must head to work now. Will find Yaro's utility later tonight and make sure it works with my trusty ol' Win95 machine.

	23-10-2003 18:00									#819
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I don't think the Hittites have any canal city (yet).
Nevertheless I am very happy to have a skilled archer as new neighbour. Welcome Stray (and beware the treacherous and bloodthirsty neighbours on your eastern 'border').

	23-10-2003 18:19									#820
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette I don't think the Hittites have any canal city (yet). Nevertheless I am very happy to have a skilled archer as new neighbour. Welcome Stray (and beware the treacherous and bloodthirsty neighbours on your eastern 'border').

Welcome aboard Strawboy!

And the Minoan King wouldn't be refering to the wealthy, powerfull and generous Assyrians, does he

The wise Egyptian Pharaoh could maybe provide for a less biased view on matters, as he is still mediating an end to the Assyrian-Hittite conflict. Feel free to PM him, or me.

Who's turn is it? The Greek (kengel)?

	23-10-2003 19:43									#821
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quote: Originally posted by germanos And the Minoan King wouldn't be refering to the wealthy, powerfull and generous Assyrians, does he

	24-10-2003 02:44									#822
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Great... that means we are on the road again
Welcome Straybow!

Here my first turn of the greeks:

Attachment: pbem_bc_3080_to_minoan.net
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

	24-10-2003 06:06									#823
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Arrrrgh! Sun says Win95 is unsupported for J2RE 1.4
Opera 7 doesn't support J2RE 1.3

I still use Netscape for email, lets see if J2RE 1.3 will load for Yaro's Civ2Dip to work if I reinstall.

	24-10-2003 06:25									#824
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No go. Civ2Dip.jar doesn't load.
ClashD6_12.jar does load.

I am puzzled.

Last edited by Straybow on 24-10-2003 at 06:31

	24-10-2003 06:30									#825
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You needn't it. You can use online connection in place of it.
If you want really use it try to ask Yaroslav...

	24-10-2003 08:16									#826
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"Online connection?" Do you mean we load as an internet game at some point when we are both free and use the multiplayer dialogue?

	24-10-2003 12:26									#827
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Strawboy:
Yes, it is perfectly OK to use the 'regular' MP fuction if needed. Being able to run CivDip or not is not necessary to play in a PBEM.

Also, in many instances you will be able to strike deals with the AI of the players, but obviously only if this has been agreed to by the respective players.

CivDip has the advantage that players don't have to arrange for a time-slot for the negotiations/deals, which can be quite troublesome due to different timezones.

A few things though: You cannot exchange maps (until your civ has mapmaking) and you cannot sign alliances in MP (as this will effectively give you a view of the other civs techs).
On the other hand, it is perfectly OK to have alliances in the game, with all the benefits of iZOC and all.


In regard to the game: Assyria (me) and the Hittite (or Hatte as they are also refered to) have had a little border dispute. At the moment there is a cease-fire, while a settlement is being discussed (tanelorn left during the negotiations). You can rest assured the cease-fire will hold for at least 1 or 2 turns more, as you might need some time to figure out what happened and determine your stance on the matter.
Read the last three pages of the thread (if you have time, read all ), most of the info is in there.
I can PM you with more info, if so requested by PM.

Unfortunately, the Hatte now see their fourth King, although the Assyrians have only met them under Tanelorns rule, and thus we have only had to deal with his policies.

As it is clear that Assyria declared war on the Hatte, and Egypt has stood up as a mediator, I feel it is not fitting if I would start PM-ing you now and plea my case.
This does however not mean I am not interested in talking with the Hatte and their new King.

To Egypt:
Obviously, Assyria still stands by the offers previously made to the Hatte King, and the unfortunate abdication of King Tanelorn will not change the Assyrian position in our dispute. While shortly before King Tanelorns abdication direct talks had started between me and him, and seems only fitting that Egypt will take up its mediation efforts now a new Hatte ruler has been chosen.
IIRC, I have informed you on the latest developments when Tanelorn had left, either by PM or by e-mail (with maps).

	24-10-2003 18:56									#828
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Yes, germnose, I need to catch up on the mediated negotiations and have requested an email from Kull. His PM box is full, so direct negotiations are at a standstill.

I've read the last 6 pp (150 posts), checked out the kingdom, gotten a little confused about the map and its doodads. (For example, I can't figure out what function the "towns" have, and I can find no explanation in the Readmes.)

	24-10-2003 20:20									#829
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Straybow,
towns are airbases. Barbs on top are 0-movement and 0-attack units. Warriors have defense 2 and you get 50 gold and one NONE Settler to your capital if you kill them.
Try to start a SP game and play 40 turns - you will become more familiar with the game.

	24-10-2003 23:01									#830
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow Yes, germnose

I see the new Hatte leader is not to be fooled with

	25-10-2003 12:30									#831
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Whooo, me?

	25-10-2003 16:49									#832
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Stray, I am on line

	25-10-2003 16:55									#833
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Going to PM

	25-10-2003 17:07									#834
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Apparently I have ver 5.2.5 instead of 5.4.0 and we can't connect. Must find patch!

	25-10-2003 17:11									#835
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That's right.
I send you my savegame today and we solve that problem later on.

	25-10-2003 17:39									#836
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Silly me, I thought "no limits" took care of that.
Problem now solved!

Does that mean I need to redo "no limits?"

Last edited by Straybow on 25-10-2003 at 17:47

	25-10-2003 20:35									#837
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Get the game from one new neighbour.
Transfer it to another new neighbour.
Best of wishes to my new neighbours.

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	25-10-2003 21:55									#838
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Welcome aboard Straybow! PM box cleared and Hatti Negotiation emails forwarded per your request.

	26-10-2003 18:53									#839
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That proposal has already been forwarded to Assyria?

	26-10-2003 19:32									#840
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow That proposal has already been forwarded to Assyria?

Not from Pharoah.