12-10-2002 21:59									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Eli It can be the final proof that opression and humiliation are not what causing people to make suicide bombings.

Nope it doesn't.

All it proves it you're a silly person.

	12-10-2002 22:19									#122
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First of all accept my deepest condolences. Sadly, I know very well how most of you feel.

Second - allow me to appologize for feelings that appear as gloating from Eli's side. He is wrong in doing that. But sadly, the grief from the Israeli events, and the frustration of having to live with such bombings daily without being understood, have caused him to be unsocial.

Also please do not think that all Israelis feel the same.

There have been many responses in Israeli forums, ranging from gloat like feelings, to feelings of empathy and support.

I hope you understand that it is very stressing to be living with such events daily, and when it happens to someone else, it is both unsual, and you "hope" for a kindred spirit - someone that will finally understand you.

So it's not a real gloat - 'yay, fins are dead'. Finland is one of the countries which both on apolyton and in real life, have been most supporting of Israel, and the Israeli public is aware of it.

But what it is, is a hope that out of this horror, a new understanding will arise, that such terror, shouldn't be accepted as justified, or as legitimate for any side; and that such events will be more widely seen for the sheer brutality and evil doing they are.

	12-10-2002 22:21									#123
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Well said Sirotnikov.

	12-10-2002 22:29									#124
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Sirotnikov, why do you use antesemitic quote as signature?

	12-10-2002 22:34									#125
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Sirotnikov, you are very right. This is a very new situation to Finns; we can't even start to imagine the feeling of knowing that every time you go out, shopping, going about your business, you might be killed. I think I've started to understand the Israelis a bit better.

This all feels a bit surreal right now. Vantaa is after all ways from where I live, and since I think this was just a random nutjob, I really can't sense what many people at Vantaa must be feeling at the moment.

quote: Also please do not think that all Israelis feel the same.

Of course not. We all know, and if we don't we should, that Eli is a sad, sad person.

	12-10-2002 22:42									#126
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so who was it?

	12-10-2002 22:44									#127
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According to YLE, the suspect is a 20-year-old chemistry student. Home search revealed Internet-loaded bomb instructions. Motive is not clear, but he most likely worked alone.

	12-10-2002 22:45									#128
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thanks

	13-10-2002 00:07									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Eli I hope it was a suicider. It's going to be a great argument in the ME threads in our favor.

You really are an ass, aren't you?

	13-10-2002 00:10									#130
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quote: if this is a terrorist attack i'll become catholic.

So, Paiktis, when will you come into full communion with Rome?

	13-10-2002 00:11									#131
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Soon, I hope.

	13-10-2002 00:47									#132
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I took up chemistry as a minor subject this year, so the bomber might well have sat on the same lecture as I...

	13-10-2002 00:51									#133
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The scourge of terrorism... it's sick, people dying tragically and needlessly, everywhere in the world.

My condolences to Finland...

quote: Originally posted by muxec Sirotnikov, why do you use antesemitic quote as signature?

I believe he was showcasing CyberGnu's apparent anti-Semitism. Though I wouldn't call it anti-Semitism, not the first quote anyway.

	13-10-2002 01:09									#134
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it wasnt terrorist attack just some loonie.
if itwasnt from hamas and the like it doesnt qualify. so constantinople it remains.

	13-10-2002 01:10									#135
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quote: I took up chemistry as a minor subject this year, so the bomber might well have sat on the same lecture as I...

The bomber was in the Ammattikorkeakoulu (think of a university, but for the more engineer types) of Helsinki, apparently.

	13-10-2002 01:11									#136
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I knew that you'd weasel out.

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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia The bomber was in the Ammattikorkeakoulu (think of a university, but for the more engineer types) of Helsinki, apparently.

Well never mind then, I'm at the regular uni...

	13-10-2002 02:57									#138
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Well maybe it's time for our people to realize anything can happen here too. It's been a worrying direction, criminals have turned a new leaf in fighting each other. They shoot to kill and plant car bombs in downtown areas. Just like in the rest of the world. 'Fortunately these things won't happen here' is old and invalid phrase.
I hope there's no one else behind this but he himself though. Well that's about it. I hope they catch the DC sniper soon too. He's been around for too long.
rip.

	13-10-2002 04:22									#140
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Siro, thanks for your kind words. Looks like we now should really put that military alliance together, what we talked about some time ago. Looks like this is not a great resting area either .

Well people will understand the situation in Israel better now, as they can imagine how it is to live under this kind of activity every day and know there's someone out there coming to get you. Of course we don't know how it is, but now we can imagine it.

	13-10-2002 05:50									#141
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Hey, I know. We should really move to finland where it's cooler and there are less bad neighbours.

	13-10-2002 15:42									#142
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Any news from our Finnish friends, has there been further briefings from the authorities?

	13-10-2002 17:22									#143
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FYI, Linking to a police website is illegal in Finland

EDIT: Don't ask me why, but it's illegal. :|

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	13-10-2002 17:23									#144
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Selvה.

	13-10-2002 17:26									#145
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Well, not by authorities, but my sister told me on the phone there've been rumours that he might be an anti-globalization acvitist.

	13-10-2002 20:01									#146
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If that is indeed the case, then my initial suspicion sadly held true.

Thanks for the update Aivo½so.

	13-10-2002 20:22									#147
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The main coverage has now been updated, so have a look on it on the first page of this thread. One of the mods/admins will get the Swedish version of Aivo½so removed as it's now available in English by me on the first page. Stay tuned to the main coverage for news updates!

	13-10-2002 20:26									#148
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I thought you'd be away till Monday.

	13-10-2002 20:31									#149
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quote: - Several lives could be saved thanks to quick actions by the rescue workers.

Glad to learn they were able to save some of the victims in critical condition. We have to count our blessings amid the horror of this.

	13-10-2002 20:55									#150
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quote: Originally posted by Winston I thought you'd be away till Monday.

That's what I thought too, but I couldn't resist to get a chance to get the coverage up-to-date.

Anyway, the next major update will be tomorrow.