03-12-2002 19:32									#1
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A thread to discuss our moves in the next turns.

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Since there is very little to do, I suggest us to drop the controller stuff and just have whoever is online to play the game.

But there are a few things that need to be decided first :

1) Should the worker road the forest(with game) he stands on now?
2) What tile should the worker work on next?
3) Where should the warrior(done in 4 turns) go?
4) What do we build after the warrior?

More general discussion :
5) What should we research next?
6) If we are on a small island, how should our research priorities change?

And even more general discussion :
7) If the GoW screenshot is correct and we are too on an island, it will be safe to assume that the entire map is archipelago one. How will that affect the game?

	03-12-2002 19:37									#2
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My opinions :
1) Yes.
2) A road in the tile directly WEST of the city. This way we can both get closer to the Incense, and have another roaded tile in the general direction of our future expansion.
3) South-West and then directly South.
4) Settler. Doh.

5) A bee-line to Literature.
6) If there is visible coast within range, a bee-line to Map Making before Literature.

7) No idea, I never played on Archipelago maps.

	03-12-2002 21:16									#3
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My opinions:

1-6 = Agree with Eli.

7 = I always play on Archipelago maps. IMO, if we're on an island (which I think we are) it would be safe to assume it is an Archipelago world...especially if GoW's hilarious starting position is actually real.

	03-12-2002 23:28									#4
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road the forest since we already expended the movement to get into the forest (although we could chop it down- the special will remain)

send the warrior west. We need to know if we are on an island. This is very, very important. it dictates our research for map making. Although if the continent is too small we will also need to go for map making.

	04-12-2002 00:32									#5
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I'll give my expanded answer.

1) Should the worker road the forest(with game) he stands on now? Yes because we already burned the movement point to get in there. Should we chop down the forest? I usually leave the forest if there are no hills around for the production.


2) What tile should the worker work on next? I'll have to check on that. I don't have my civ3 disc in. We should probably build a road to the west.


3) Where should the warrior(done in 4 turns) go?
west to where it looks like the land continues (hopefully). The other western edges border water.

4) What do we build after the warrior?
settler if we can get him after we reach size 3

More general discussion :
5) What should we research next?
continue on towards Republic but we will side track to map making if need be
6) If we are on a small island, how should our research priorities change?
map making asap.

And even more general discussion :
7) If the GoW screenshot is correct and we are too on an island, it will be safe to assume that the entire map is archipelago one. How will that affect the game?

This will have several effects. I'm curious how you guys use tiremes. It's not like we can reload if we lose one . Sometimes I get stuck and the other land isn't close enough for a tireme. It usually fails if I try to cross. Building up a navy (even if they are just tiremes is a must. we will need to set up transport routes accross the water and be alble to defend other cities on other islands.

	04-12-2002 01:36									#6
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build road with forest(game on it), reserach ironworking first, we whould set the warrior on explore. Build settler afterwards.

	04-12-2002 01:59									#7
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road forest

road to next city

explore with warrior

build settler next

the GoW screenshot is not correct

Jon Miller

	04-12-2002 02:11									#8
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Note concerning research :

What I means is that we should go for Literacy after we finish Ironworking, since Ironworking was already decided.

	04-12-2002 02:30									#9
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ok

	04-12-2002 02:54									#10
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Ok.

What really concerns us now are points 1-4, and 5 out of 6 members agreed on them. So whoever is online when it's our turn should start roading the forest tile and press enter.

	04-12-2002 04:11									#11
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?

don't we have a controller?

Where are the turns being posted?

	04-12-2002 04:23									#12
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6 out of 6. Went back and looked at the start. Was originally going to argue that we should move the worker without building the road in the ofrest - what are we going to gain - and it is going to cost us a few turns while he/she does it, but, it is the best tile, and will net us some early commerce. So, my answers:

) Should the worker road the forest(with game) he stands on now? Yup
2) What tile should the worker work on next? the one due west of the city - off the pointy corner. It is the bee-line for what may be an isthmus, and we are only one road away from hooking up the incense.
3) Where should the warrior(done in 4 turns) go? Go west young man - go west.
4) What do we build after the warrior? As was said earlier - duh - settler.

More general discussion :
5) What should we research next? I agree to the above, To be dictated by whether we are on an island - and I don't think we are.
6) If we are on a small island, how should our research priorities change? As above.

And even more general discussion :
7) If the GoW screenshot is correct and we are too on an island, it will be safe to assume that the entire map is archipelago one. How will that affect the game? I haven't played a lot of archipelago games, but in the ones I did, no one started on an island. They were all stretchy pieces of land - which is what I think we are on. The one thing I did note - os that with stretchy pieces of land - you want to get out there fast, claim the land, and cut the others off. Also - there ARE probably lots of islands nearby that warrant exploration and settling. But again - we will soon find out.

I think the GoW thing is pretty much acknowledged as a joke - albeit not a bad one. Made for a good thread - especially the Glory of Water comment.

And finally - I agree Eli - that we should think about the move stuff now, but the governance stuff shouldn't take us too long, and should prevent issues in the future, Besides - WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TON OF TIME TO KILL. We gotta chat about something. Let's complain about the government.....

(Now - will someone please tell me how to use those damn smiley's - that last comment was too good to go without one..) (Eli - I think you got the tutoring job by default.) (Speaking of which - I'm off to try the chat connection)

	04-12-2002 04:54									#13
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smiley's are easy. You just use a combination of punctuation like the : and ) keys. combine them to make

or : and (
or ; and )
or : and lol and :

or the really easy way is instead of using the quick reply box, use the post reply button. There is a box with every smiley in them. Just click one.

	04-12-2002 05:01									#14
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Diss - thanks - OK here we go from quick reply - for example:

beta is bozo

no he's not (the cat speaking, he wants to get fed)

OK -lets see if that works.

	04-12-2002 05:04									#15
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Success!

Now with the post reply box -

Well, let's see - you may have unleashed a monster here Diss.

	04-12-2002 05:16									#16
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Oh you've done it Dissident! Beta now has a new toy.

	04-12-2002 06:53									#17
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Yee haw!!!

Yes - new toys - that and polls. Witt - I have asked about city names in a poll.

	04-12-2002 13:52									#18
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Bah, Christmas smileys.

	05-12-2002 02:15									#19
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Second turn was played by me.

Actions done :
Started roading the forest.
Pressed enter.

A screenshot of the city screen was emailed to everyone.

	05-12-2002 04:43									#20
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I'm anxious for that warrior to come.

We need to see what is west beyond that hill.

	05-12-2002 22:31									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Eli A screenshot of the city screen was emailed to everyone.

And a nice screenshot it is - looks just like the last one! Thanks Eli

	05-12-2002 23:19									#22
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Note to whoever will play the turn :

Rename the Capitol to "The Voice".

	06-12-2002 01:30									#23
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3900BCE played.

Actions done :
City renamed to "The Voice".
Pressed enter.



An interesting piece of info is that all civs have 30 points, except Lux Invicta and the Gathering Storm who have 15. They probably didnt found the first city in 4000BCE.

	06-12-2002 03:49									#24
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that is good

I think GS is probably the best team

Jon Miller

	06-12-2002 04:38									#25
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thats why i say we need to take them out early, with our immortals if there on out countient

	06-12-2002 21:00									#26
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I just hope that we'll find iron for our immortals!

	07-12-2002 12:29									#27
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OK I played 3850BC

In summary I declared war on 7 human civs and raised luxeries to 100%.

then I pressed enter.

Now I have to figure out who to send it to. I even forgot the order we go in.

I have a screen shot in .bmp format if anyone is interested.

Last edited by Dis on 07-12-2002 at 12:46

	07-12-2002 12:49									#28
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Diss : I PMed you the email adresses.

	07-12-2002 12:55									#29
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come to think of how should we discuss minor things like the tax rate slider and city worked squares? Usually the squares to work are fairly obvious. But I'd like us all to agree on it for the most part.

	07-12-2002 19:27									#30
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I would guess in the early days when there is not much else to do, we will probably discuss every worker action. Later on, leave it to the controller. I belive that was the intent of the team set-up.

My recommendation for the next worker action is to build a road west to speed up the movement of the settlers and warriors out of The Voice. With a road, we will get that next city built faster than the others.