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Enough has been invested in India so that it has reached the point where its industries can expand themselves and the economy will naturally improve. Quality of life steadily rises, many areas already are enjoying a new prosperity comparable to many communist regions and not very far below som of the western nations. Indian efforts are now being devoted to paying off loans and expanding investment into world markets and building merchant shipyards and harbors and ariports and the like to bring it to a position on the world market where the numerious and increasingly skilled and innovative Indian population can be competitive and formidable. With the government running mroe smoothly and with more funds, projects are actually proceeding at or near the expected pace, and the army is now medium sized, moving towards large, along with the navy and airforce, which will be medium sized soon.

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To India (secret); We will help you with you army and air force, and cancel our loans if you join NATO.

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India to U.S. :

thankyou for your generous offer. We are already in NATO.

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Reality Police: I'm going to suspend Sheep from this NES until Skilord moderates the issue, no attacks will be made on the United States, all actions on the Part of the United States from the stealth tech post and onward will be ignored. Skilord will be back on Sunday or Monday.


I'm back now (got hurt at the tourney and had to come home)

Children, Children, stop squabbling.

Sheep is not suspended, Goob and Sheep are both asked to be a little more realistic, though i will admit that sheep is more realistic seeming.

For my Arrows i made damn sure that they would not be out of place in the time, and researched etc. I reccomend the rest of you do likewise.

Poland's Economy has ahad Canadian support, but a Polish space program that is so ambitious is a bit much.

US Stealth tech is feasable, but only in a limited form, the planes will be detectable, but rarely.

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OOC:
I think we got the sleath tech kind of settled. I do believe at the time their was papers written on the subject of what kind of shapes could reflect radar. So maybe you could have something that would be hard to detect. I also might add that these planes would be defenseless, that is how real slealth bombers are in real life, only protect is not being dectected.

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India is buying off land from minor tribes in Iraq and Persia. Settlements are being built and drilling/mining is taking place. Persia and Iraq are very dipleased and have attempted to shut down the purchasing of their land by India. India continues claiming land on the Arabian penninsula and around the Persian gulf and has told Persia and Iraq in not very pleasant terms what they should do to themselves. Tensions are rising rapidly.

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France-Diplomacy

France to India: We recommend that you do not be too agressive in foreign affairs, so that you do not cause a war, which is the last thing the world needs at this time.
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France - Domestic Affairs
- Air Force and Army Upgrades are complete.

- Since the US gave us nuclear weapons, our research is now complete on nuclear weaponry.

- A bomb was detonated in the downtown area of the city of Buenos Aires, Argentina, a possession of France. Hundreds are dead, and hundreds more are injured. A investigation is being done to determine who was responsible for this attack.
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France- Statistics (1960)
Large Army
Medium Navy
Medium Airforce
Small Nukes
Govt: Democracy
President: Charles de Gaulle (Jonny)
Tech Level: Early Modern
MPP's: NATO
War: none

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Germany - Diplomacy:

To India (secret): We are prepared to present a united front with you on the issue of your expansion intot he Persian Gulf, as long as we are guaranteed a share of the spoils. The profit potential is astronomical, and as long as we can guarantee that others will not interfere, we can roll over the Gulf States wiothout breaking a sweat.

Germany - Domestic Policy:

General elections have been held recently, and Adenauer has remained in power, but only after cutting a deal with the Social Democrats under whch he retains some influence but follows their policies of welfare spending and business regulation.

Germany - Production:

Germany is now upgrading it's air force to use the new F-4 Phantom jets developed in America and contracted for construction in Germany; the air force will be extensively equipped with them in two years.

(It won't be fully kitted out because the Phantom has it's drawbacks)

Germany - Statistics:

Large Army
Medium Navy
Medium Airforce (upgrades to Large in 2 years)
[(secret) Few nukes (upgrading to Medium in 4 years)]
Govt: Democracy
Leader: Adenauer (GeneralTacticus)
Tech Level: Early Modern
MPP's: NATO
War: none

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After some years of mismanagments by the Italian burocrats, the many factions in the Italian repubblic come to violence, and this violence eventually broke out in a real civil war.

A Communist revolution have broken out in Tuscany and Emilia, and eventually has extended to Croatia as well, with its HQ being in Bologna

Austria and Venice, being worried about the comunist running around have joind together in what is now called the Austrian First Reich, under the fascist leadership of the Duce Adolf Franco, the Headquarters of the fascists is Wien (Allied with the Papal States)

The Italian Royal Family saw this as a good chance of regaining their power in Italy, and have came down from Switzerland and seized control of the areas than once composed the Kingdom of Savoy: Piemonte, Milan, Liguria, Sardinia, and Sicily, the HQ of the monarchist rebels is Torino. (allied with the Italian Democratic Repubblic)

Last but not least the Papist also have saw this as good chance of ragaining the ancient Papal power which was lost after the Italian Unification in 1861.
The Pope and it's fellows have seized power in Rome and the countryside around it. (Allied with the Austria First Reich)

In all this the Italian Democratic repubblic have fled to the South and relocated its capital to Napoli. (Allied with the Kingdom of Italy)

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From: Free Repubblic of Communist Italy
To: Warsaw Pact

Please help us gaining power in Italy, and smash those stupid Fascist Austrians, alone we wouldn't stand a chance, but with your help we will destroy them

From: The Austrian First Reich
To: the world

This is an internal issue, and we will resolve it by ourselves, do not intervene.

From: The Kingdom of Italy.
To: NATO Powers

If you help us against the Communist and the Fascists, we will later reunify with the Italian Democratic factions and form a Constitutional Monarchy on the lines of the British one

From: Papal States
To: Catholic countries

Help us, the infidel Italian Communist are coming to us, do not let the Papal power die a second time, if you help us, you will be garanteed an open door to paradise.

From: Italian Democratic Repubblic
To: NATO Powers

Help us against the Rebels, in the name of our alliance.

Saluti

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India to France:

Don't worry we are doing our best to calm Iraq and Persia and making no actions that will provoke them (OOC: not really)

To Germany (VERY SECRET):

Very good. We can continue establishing ourselves in the Persian Gulf Region, and no matter what happens we come off ahead. If the Persians and Iraqis do nothing, that's fine, we'll just continue expanding in the useful areas. If they attack us, that's a perfect pretense for taking over the entirety of their nations. At that point we can bring Egypt in, which will be to the rest of the world a legitimate ruler, and if necessary placate the Communists by encouraging them to take some land.

Hopefully we can just go about our business without being bothered by the Iraqis/Persians, and in that case we will work together to develop the region, you providing more of the capitol and advanced equipment and we can provide plenty of labor and take care of the supply logistics. We'll share equally in the profits.
If war does happen, here is what we propose:

Egypt --> Jorden, part of Arabian Penninsula south of 30 degrees N and west of 50 degrees E.

Germany --> remainder of Persia/Iraq west of 50 degrees E.

India --> remainder of Persia/Iraq east of 50 degrees E, exluding, if necessary:

Afghanistan, to go to China,

Turkmenistan, to go to the USSR.


We are happy to discuss changes to this plan, should it become necessary.

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Poland sends several Communist Military experts to the Italian communists, as well as the most advanced equipment that Poland can spare (with the exception of nuclear warheads, those come after you win).

Poland also establishes air bases in the Communist sector of Italy, each base being VERY well defended by ground troops.

To the world: Polish action in Italy will end as soon as one side gains control, ((OOC: Giovanni, why couldn't you have waited until the Pope became Polish?)) Poland has no qualms about attacking the Papal State, as Communist nations are athiest in principle.

To India and Germany: We are trying to decipher your code, all we have at the moment is Germany--- Remainder, and China. Please note that we will brood severe agression to any nation that threatens China, if over the next several days we determine this to be a threat to communism, be assured that there will be retaliation.

Polish Army upgraded to Large.
Polish Air Force (Medium-Large) completely upgraded, dogfights are being run to see the weaknesses of the German Phantom Jets, giving them a distinct advantage.
Polish Navy: Large - After the replacement of the screen door with a stronger Russian door, Polish submarines stopped sinking, giving a massive surplus that was unexpected by Polish Analysts.
Nukes: They are being produced again in Poland with Greek Uranium, Greece and Poland will have a Medium Nuclear arsenal in 2 years, and a Large Nuclear arsenal in 5.
Space exploration: Although information has leaked that the first moon landing was staged, Polish scientists insist that it can be pulled off, and will still allow a German scientist to accompany it's spacemen to the moon in 1 year.
Polish Submarines able to transport and launch Nuclear Weapons 8 years.

((OOC: Skilord, you need to play the Persian Gulf countries, or moderate those conflicts in some way, I.E. Suicide bombers, Jewish citizens angered at the German invasion of Palestine etc.))

Positions towards other countries.

Germany: Currently shaking a stick at Germany...

Greece: Currently combining Nuclear resources to advance both our arsenals.

China: China still cool.

USSR: wish you were more active, but we like your money so you still cool with us.

Canada: We down with Canada and we got yo back too.

USA: WE FART IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION... OUR FARTS ARE BACKED WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS... IF OUR NUCLEAR WEAPONS COULD FART, YOU'D BE THE ONE THEY'D FART ON!

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((OOC: Giovanni, why couldn't you have waited until the Pope became Polish?))


OOC: Actually that is what I tried to avoid

IC:
The Free Repubbluc of Communist Italy thanks her Polish comrades for their help.
Once we will have control of all the peninsula we will pay you back

Saluti

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Canadian bombers laid waste to New York, the SUpercarrier Posidon and her support craft were damaged, and a few subs and destroyers were sunk in the battle.

A fleet of Junks, unstoppable in number, landed twin armies on the north and south of Japan.

Greek, Polish and Russian forces invaded Germany.

Greek forces hit Italy.

Canada Invades Maine.

Dammit, i wrote this out so nicely and then it was lost by the server......

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addendum to SKILORD's post:
the forces in italy are aiding the communist rebels, Giovanni will get a communist Italy
the Polish Troops invading Germany went through Italy and thus bypassed the stronger German fortifications, Flanking a majority of the German army and all American forces in Germany (wow, we got you with your WWI and WWII strategy Germany)
Polish Arrows Bombed most German Airbases before the German planes were prepared, Germany's Airforce is Small

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sorry mine was so breif,a longer one was lost, which made me sad and angry.

I needed to get it up though, damn i'm tired

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Indian Army, Navy, and Air Force now are all medium, all are in the process of being upgraded to large.

A nuclear development program has been secretly started.

India has purchased a computer and is setting up its own facility for research and further development and possible applications.

In light of the recent Communist invasions, Indian citizens, communities, and (as quietly as possible) the government are building shelters and stockpiles of equipment, food, weapons, etc.

India to Warsaw Pact:

What the hell are you doing? You've thoroughly screwed the world over with your actions, but maybe the situation can be salvaged if you back down now. We see mushroom clouds in the future if you keep going as you are. Please don't sentence all of us, including yourselves, to radioactive oblivion.

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To India: The actions taken by the Nations of Warsaw are none other than defensive measures, Canada, fearing an invasion from the United States, launched a preemptive NON-NUCLEAR strike, meanwhile, due to our alliance with Canada, the other Warsaw nations were forced to invade Germany to prevent their aid of the United States in the killing of Canadians. Obviously, the first nation to use Nuclear weapons will be the ultimate killer of humanity.

Poland puts the following up to a UN vote:
The first nation to use nukes will have war declared on it by ALL nations of the world. Y/N

Poland votes Yay

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Canada votes yay.

India: You must remember that this is premeditated to the extreme, we won't stop until the capitailists lay smote and the workers of the NATO nations are free.

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Avro arrows perform recon over America, we don't need stealth, because they can't hurt the Arrows

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Reality Police: Goober, you can't invade us through Italy, you'd be invading through the Austrian Fascists, and you'd have to conquer them first.

Moreover, you can't have bombed us before we were prepared, as we've been on high alert ever since you started this whole crisis with your propaganda about a Nazi resurgence while we were busy finishing the Nazis off.

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Germany - Diplomacy:

To Italy (both factions): While we support you in your struggle for freedom, we cannot give you any assistance, as we are ourselves fighting desperately against the invading hordes of the Warsaw Pact.

To India (top secret, using new encryption systems): While we do wish to cut a deal over the Middle East, and will accept your suggestion with some alterations, there is nothing we can do right now, as we are under attack by the Warsaw PAct and desperately need aid.

To NATO: We urgently request your help against the communist invasion of our homeland. If we cannot hold them off, we may be forced to take extreme measures, which could well end the world as we know it.

To World: The nations of the Warsaw PAct have shown their true colours by launching a blatantly aggressive war against us, in order to satisfy their own greed for conquest. We call upon all nations to help us in repelling this despicable aggression.

To the UN: We vote Nay. witht he Warsaw Pact launching it's final campaign to enslave the world, we will not rule out any means required to stop them and prevent our people from being crushed under the bootheel of their tyranny.

To Warsaw Pact: We have given you every chance for peace. We have tried, endlessly, to reason with you, and yet you persist in your mad aggression. The German people will fight for their freedom, and even if you win, you will not conquer us. You will have destroyed us, and we will do all that we can to take you with us. You have been warned.

Germany - Domestic Policy:

The German nation has now mobilized for war: conscription has been reintroduced, all economic resources are now being directed towards the war effort, and the people are being armed to defend themselves against the communist invaders.

As a result of this, the German army has temporarily increased in size to Huge, but the extra troops are not professionals and will not do more than delay the enemy or wage a guerilla war. Mobilization has also accelerated the progress of our miltiary expansion projects; our air force program is now complete, and our nuke program soon will be.

Germany - Statistics:

Large (Huge) Army
Medium Navy
LArge Air Force
[(secret) Few nukes (upgrading to Medium in 1 years)]
Govt: Democracy
Leader: Adenauer (GeneralTacticus)
Tech Level: Mid Modern
MPP's: NATO
War: Warsaw Pact

OOC: Goober:

1) You would not have been able to bomb us on the ground, as by the time your planes arrived, we wouldn't be there.

2) I'd like to see your basis for claiming that the Arrow is invulnerable, particularly against planes that were developed afterwards (i.e. the Phantom).

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India to Poland and Canada:

That is bull****. Invading the U.S. was uncalled for, and invading Germany was entirely unjustified and absolutely hypocritic. First you invade the U.S. on the suspicion that they might war with you, and in doing so ensure that they will war with you, then you invade Germany to prevent them from possibly aiding the U.S. against your unjustified attack? You are despicable. You are guilty of everything you decry. The people of the nations you are attacking are already either the most prosperous and well-off in the world or finally recovering from oppression, and you take this away from them with a war in order to give them your oppression, forced work, lack of freedom and the like? There is not term strong enough for the contempt we have for you. Salvage what you can from this situation. Repent of your follies.

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Germany - Military Situation:

German troops, aided by citizen militias and NATO troops stationed here, have managed to blunt the massive Warsaw Pact advance, but they cannot stop it. All civilians in the path of the invaders ar ebeing evacuated with everything that can be moved; everything else is being destroyed. Preparations are being made for a guerilla war against the communists, while booby traps and minefields are being laid everywhere that has been left. The Warsaw Pact will pay for it's invasion.

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Russian stats:
Navy being upgraded to Huge (8 years)
Air Force being upgraded to Huge (4 years)
Army being upgraded to Imperial (3 to 5 years, depending on casualties)

UN vote- yay

2 Russian tank divisions and 4 infantry divisions sent to Italy to aide the communists. A few air force squadrons also sent.

More troops being shoved into Germany. Surprise, skill, and overwhelming numbers take its toll on the German defenders. The Warsaw Pact have complete air superiority over German skies as their tank divisions and infantry divisions spearhead into Kraut territory. The three prong attack lays waste to all as they trample through Germany. Berlin falls. Hamburg and Munich on the verge of collapse into Communist control.

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((OOC: Tacticus, most of your army was wiped out, and the advance would have taken control over your airbases, as for the advance through italy, it stands because it is a guerilla civil war, and smart guerillas won't take on a substantially larger, better armed, force which stands in their way, if Austria didn't let us pass, then we've taken it over. Our basis in concern for the planes was the dogfights we ran beforehand against the Phantoms, in order to discover weakness, my airforce was trained to tear yours to shreds))

To the United Nations: Germany's vote of NAY is nothing short of nuclear bloodlust!! This, above all else, is the basis behind our attack, and now it is the justification!! Polish troops are sparing only women and children in their glorious march across Germany.

Polish reports from the battlefront show heavy damages caused by the Germans on their own buildings. The more advanced Polish army is, however, routing most of the human opposition, finding trouble only in West Berlin, Bonn, and some of the Westernmost parts of Germany. The sheer numbers of the Polish, Russian, and Greek armies should triumph soon.

Polish Submarines block all German Ports, destroying a majority of the German navy, including most of Germany's aircraft carriers, none of which have mobilized.

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To Warsaw Pact:

THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING. IF YOU DO NOT CEASE YOUR INVASION, WE WILL USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS AGAINST YOU. THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT: YOU CAN STOP YOUR AGGRESSION AND RETURN TO YOUR HOMELANDS, OR YOU CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OUTBREAK OF A NUCLEAR WAR.

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To Germany: if the Russians have captured Berlin, they have control over your government; however, we will give you the option of surrender to Poland, which would bring an end to our aggression against Germany, but sovereignty would be maintained only if Germany were to become a loyal member of Warsaw. These are our terms, they will stop the aggression, a democratic society would not refuse them, although they may grudgingly sign them.

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((OOC: just a side note, Sheep's going to crap his pants when he reads all this stuff))

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Goober, just because they've captured Berlin doesn't give them control over the government, because we're entirely capable of moving.
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To Warsaw Pact: We are prepared to sign a peace deal with you, and we will quit NATO if that is what you demand, but we will not join the Warsaw Pact, and we will not impose communism within our own borders. We are prepared to be made neutral, and expel all foreign troops from our borders, but we will not fight for you.

noreover, our precondition for ANY negotiations is that yous top your advances and stop firing. If you don't, we will use our nukes.

 
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