04-02-2003 20:08									#31
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quote: I do find it interesting that Europeans are expected to take regular punches and name calling, but when the shoe suddenly shifts to the other foot, the Europeans are bein' jealous & trolling.

Yes... lots of regular punches for the Euros .

	04-02-2003 20:10									#32
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Oh I'm sorry, I forgot to shout

"ANTI-EUROPEAN TROLL!! FFS HOW LAME!!1!"

or you'd have remembered that there have been several anti-European threads in just the last week.

	04-02-2003 20:11									#33
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Demerzel:

Pick any given week on 'poly.

Count the number of USA bashing threads.

Count the number of Europe bashing threads.

Compare them.

Notice any trends?

On pretty much any week you care to name, the USA bashing threads outnumber the Eurocom....erm....Euro bashing threads by a pretty healthy margin. You *sure* you wanna stand by your post?

Hersh: I agree with you in looking at broader media....but just talking about 'poly....the Euros dish out a steady dose, but were quick to cry uncle on this thread.....second, third post in reply was it?

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	04-02-2003 20:15									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Demerzel or you'd have remembered that there have been several anti-European threads in just the last week.

Oh... bummer.

You seem to forget that there are usually several anti american threads EVERY WEEK at poly... The Euros seem to make them a "staple" of the OTF.

So please forgive us if we laugh when the shoe is on the other foot

	04-02-2003 20:16									#35
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quote: You *sure* you wanna stand by your post?

Yeah, I thought it was pretty wierd as well.

	04-02-2003 20:24									#36
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[getting fully into the spirit of the thread]

Glass-jawed Eurocoms....can't take a punch....sorta reminds you of the French army in WWII, eh?....

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	04-02-2003 20:25									#37
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hehe

gotta go into town now but I'll be back :damnnoterminatorsmilie:

	04-02-2003 20:26									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Demerzel I do find it interesting that Europeans are expected to take regular punches and name calling, but when the shoe suddenly shifts to the other foot, the Europeans are bein' jealous & trolling.

Oh please. Which forum have you been reading? Searching for "dubya" over the last month unearthed a coupla gems, all either denigrating the man's intelligence and/or claiming that America is evil/dangerous/etc.

This man is about to start a war...
Is there any viable way to oust President Bush?
I'm Beginning To Hate Bush ...
What is your opinion of the US? Note the poll results.
A liberal and a conservative were sitting in a bar. Then Bill Gates walked in.
ANALYSIS: Younger Koreans View America as Real Threat
What's the Difference?
"Do you have blacks too?"

Mind you, this search only included the term "dubya." I tried not to include any of the threads that claimed that Bush was evil for cutting taxes or drilling for oil in Alaska or whatever -- these are "Bush/Merica is evil for wanting to beat up on Iraq" threads.

A search for "Eurocom" did not produce nearly as many hits.

So excuse me if I call bullshit.

	04-02-2003 20:43									#40
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quote: Originally posted by CICSMaster Oh, and I suppose that the term "shrub" to refer to GW Bush is any different, or the continual denigration of the man's intellect.

Well, if that Dennis Prager really thinks that this is 'What the world would like the President to say', then yes, compared to him, GW Bush is a genious.
I'm a little bit afraid that the correct title should sound 'The thoughts I put in other's heads to confirm/justify my ignorance/hate of them'.

	04-02-2003 20:51									#41
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Nahhh, on that score, I thought he was pretty much spot on. What made it a poor parody was how close it hit home.

The French, especially, have made a habit of walking and talking the whole apeasement line in the ME (shocking, since we saw how utterly successful that was in WWII).

So yes! The bent of the message we're hearing is: "Ohhhh, drop the big bad wolf routine, USA! The problem would go away if you'd simply join hands with Saddam and sing a couple verses of Kumbayah with him! And if he gasses his own people....the way to make him STOP IT isn't to scold him...we just misunderstand his intention....the real way to make him stop is to reward the behavior with business contracts."

MmmmHmmm.

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	04-02-2003 20:53									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin This frequent use of words like "eurotwit" is really starting to annoy me. It's pointless and childish. It tells that the writer possibly has a limitied ability to analyse the world beyond crude stereotypes. Oh no, no point talking about the real issues here. It tells that a person makes his or her assessment beforehand based on prejudice.

I like how the Americans claim that they're the ones who are always attacked.

Mindless Amerithugs.

	04-02-2003 20:54									#43
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and by the way....we KNOW, from looking at world opinion today, that the one thing the rest of the world doesn't want us to do is to stand up to him (and presumedly, any missile-lobbing freak). Nahhh....let's just play kissyface with 'em, right?

Oh...I'm well aware of the counters, and I even agree with them.

The US MUST be consistent in its actions.

But Sadaam is a bad seed. We helped make him.

Now it's time to unmake him.

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	04-02-2003 20:55									#44
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quote: Originally posted by CICSMaster Oh, and I suppose that the term "shrub" to refer to GW Bush is any different, or the continual denigration of the man's intellect.

If you can't see the difference between attacking the leader of a nation and attacking its population in general, then you're as stupid as most Americans.

	04-02-2003 21:00									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Velociryx and by the way....we KNOW, from looking at world opinion today, that the one thing the rest of the world doesn't want us to do is to stand up to him (and presumedly, any missile-lobbing freak).

Well if the US position were "We want Saddam to disarm, as a last resort we'll go to war", that would cause a lot less problems. But the Bush admin chickenhawks have been searching an excuse for attacking Iraq since they came to power, so the assurances from Bush and co carry zero credibility. Especially if their scenario for after the war is "We'll hold hands with jubilating Iraqis and will pump happily ever after".

	04-02-2003 21:00									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger then you're as stupid as most Americans.

But as can be seen above... most people don't just pick on Bush

	04-02-2003 21:00									#47
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Ahhh, and I suppose "Amerithug" was aimed at the pres. too, eh?

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(and the phrase "as stupid as most Americans")

Oh...but I forgot....the rules are different for non-Americans....

	04-02-2003 21:01									#48
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Oh please. Which forum have you been reading? Searching for "dubya" over the last month unearthed a coupla gems, all either denigrating the man's intelligence and/or claiming that America is evil/dangerous/etc. This man is about to start a war... Is there any viable way to oust President Bush? I'm Beginning To Hate Bush ... What is your opinion of the US? Note the poll results. A liberal and a conservative were sitting in a bar. Then Bill Gates walked in. ANALYSIS: Younger Koreans View America as Real Threat What's the Difference? "Do you have blacks too?" Mind you, this search only included the term "dubya." I tried not to include any of the threads that claimed that Bush was evil for cutting taxes or drilling for oil in Alaska or whatever -- these are "Bush/Merica is evil for wanting to beat up on Iraq" threads. A search for "Eurocom" did not produce nearly as many hits. So excuse me if I call bullshit.

Loin, I expect more of you. Most (but not all) critics of the US are a lot better behaved than to insult the entire population of the US in a non-jocular manner as this thread does to the Euros...

	04-02-2003 21:02									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Ming But as can be seen above... most people don't just pick on Bush

I'm hoping you "got" that...

	04-02-2003 21:02									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Velociryx So yes! The bent of the message we're hearing is: "Ohhhh, drop the big bad wolf routine, USA! The problem would go away if you'd simply join hands with Saddam and sing a couple verses of Kumbayah with him! And if he gasses his own people....the way to make him STOP IT isn't to scold him...we just misunderstand his intention....the real way to make him stop is to reward the behavior with business contracts." -=Vel=-

If that is what you think, then OK, continue to think it.
"Yes, we think Saddam is philanthropic and GW Bush is Satan".
Does that sound logic to you? Do you really think we think that way? Do you really think THE WHOLE WORLD think that way?
Those who think that way, like that author of the article, need to buy a (new) brain.

	04-02-2003 21:03									#51
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Quotes from Frogger:

Mindless Amerithugs
as stupid as most Americans

Pot calling the kettle black?

Nahhh, can't be.

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	04-02-2003 21:04									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Velociryx Ahhh, and I suppose "Amerithug" was aimed at the pres. too, eh? -=Vel=- (and the phrase "as stupid as most Americans") Oh...but I forgot....the rules are different for non-Americans....

I'm beginning to despair here.

a) Frogger's an idiot

b) Frogger is engaging is finely-tuned and highly-refined satire...

	04-02-2003 21:05									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Velociryx Quotes from Frogger: Mindless Amerithugs as stupid as most Americans Pot calling the kettle black? Nahhh, can't be. -=Vel=-

C'mon Vel. In the same damn sentence. You have to suspect that that wasn't coincidence...

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Some people's sarcasm detectors aren't working. How about a few more winking-smilies, Frogger?

Of course, remembering our discussion re: the US Tax Code the other week, I chose A and B.

	04-02-2003 21:07									#55
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It's possible. I don't want to hurt any Americans feelings by accident. Poor things, always being attacked...

	04-02-2003 21:09									#56
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There was a tax code debate here?

	04-02-2003 21:10									#57
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Actions speak louder than words, Dry.

If the rest of the world was sooooo enormously worried about the ME in general, and Iraq in particular, then why all the flap when somebody takes a stand against him (Iraq/Saddam)?

The preferred Euro method for dealing with Iraq has been apeasement (you guys really need a new playbook!)

And how well has appeasement worked? 'bout as well as it worked on Hitler, maybe?

Perhaps....just perhaps....it's time to try something new.

Something harsher.

But don't worry....you won't have to get your hands dirty if you don't want to....we'll take care of it, and in the process, further cement world opinion that we're warmongering b@stards (which of course we are)!

But, there'll be one less bully on the block.


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	04-02-2003 21:10									#58
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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler There was a tax code debate here?

By way of threadjacking. I don't even remember the original thead, it was so long ago.

	04-02-2003 21:12									#59
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Oh, I got it....but apparently answering in kind isn't so effective....

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quote: Originally posted by Demerzel why is it more ok to be anti-European than anti-American?

Because America's words are backed by nuclear weapons of course!