18-03-2003 15:28									#1
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How many denizens of this site are creaming their pants at the thought of thousands of civilian casualties in Iraq? (Or should that be collateral damage?)

	18-03-2003 16:44									#2
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lol, what's creaming their pants??

	18-03-2003 16:48									#3
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Shhhhhh, Taz. You'll wake the warmongers and get yourself into trouble

	18-03-2003 16:49									#4
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	18-03-2003 16:53									#5
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quote: 1h32m

That's not the correct way, this is the correct way:
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	18-03-2003 16:56									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus lol, what's creaming their pants??

Answer the man

	18-03-2003 16:56									#7
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Have to account for time zones that way. Mine is easier.

	18-03-2003 17:11									#8
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Civilian casualties are a tragedy. However, the fact that no-one seems to mention the 1 million plus Iraqi Kurds and Shia Muslims that have been killed by Saddam means perhaps the old saying is true...

	18-03-2003 17:12									#9
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How were they killed, EIF?

	18-03-2003 17:28									#10
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quote: lol, what's creaming their pants??

A relatively polite way of saying you had a premature ejactulation at the thought of something sweet.

	18-03-2003 17:45									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Taz How many denizens of this site are creaming their pants at the thought of thousands of civilian casualties in Iraq? (Or should that be collateral damage?)

There are probably quite a few from the left who would take great delight in a large number of civilian casualities. In fact, stick around awhile. They will soon be gloating about each incident of a misdirected bomb so that they can have even more reasons to hate America. Without civilian casualities the left would have to direct their hatred from all things American to actually trying to help someone.

	18-03-2003 17:50									#12
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The left has already tried to help. It tried to stop the angloamericans from massacring hundrends of thousands.

This is help, don't you think?

	18-03-2003 17:52									#13
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Then again Blair is "left" and Chirac is "right"

Right.

	18-03-2003 17:57									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Lincoln There are probably quite a few from the left who would take great delight in a large number of civilian casualities. In fact, stick around awhile. They will soon be gloating about each incident of a misdirected bomb so that they can have even more reasons to hate America. Without civilian casualities the left would have to direct their hatred from all things American to actually trying to help someone.

Please tell me you're joking Lincoln. It's one thing to disagree with people, it's another to suggest they'd enjoy seeing civilian casualties.

	18-03-2003 17:59									#15
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I hope I was only kidding Sava.

	18-03-2003 18:09									#16
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Lincoln loves to see civilians die so much that he's got a head start on the gloating.

	18-03-2003 18:12									#17
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Keep it to a civil discussion, or it's toast.

RAH

I've already closed one similiar one this morning and won't need much of an excuse to do the same here.

	18-03-2003 18:40									#18
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There's probably gonna be a lot of casualties on all three sides: Iraq, USA, Civilians. Left the Brits out on purpose.

In a few months from now there's gonna be a lot of people asking the question "and what was it our guys died for?". Especially when the oil companies take over Iraq. All we can sadly do is wait 'till it starts happening.

But it took a lot of time to realize what kind of war the Vietnam war was... And you all know what the reason for that war was: Dealing with something that is/could be a threat to the USA.

Now where have I heard that one recently....

	18-03-2003 18:55									#19
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I certainly hope that is will be short, without big loss of life (on either side, military or civilian), and that the post-war situation will be as good as possible.

	18-03-2003 18:57									#20
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This quote from his speach

"Unlike Saddam Hussein, we believe the Iraqi people are deserving and capable of human liberty, and when the dictator has departed, they can set an example to all the Middle East of a vital and peaceful and self-governing nation.

The United States with other countries will work to advance liberty and peace in that region. Our goal will not be achieved overnight, but it can come over time."

A chilling reminder of one of the proclaimed reasons we fought in Vietnam.

Even if we win, giving the power to the people that have been subjected to Sadam's hateful propaganda for over a decade since that last Gulf war is not likely to produce a country that will look at the US in a friendly light.

RAH

	18-03-2003 19:15									#21
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it's not so much the propaganda it's the angloamerican bombs and the int community sanctions.

500.000 children have died because of them.

500.000 more civilians will die now.


what kind of emotions do you think they elicit?

	18-03-2003 19:19									#22
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Why are some people stuck with this 500,000 random number?
Where did you pull this out from?
Come as a vision in the night ?


48 hours. Adios, muthas!

	18-03-2003 19:19									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Lincoln There are probably quite a few from the left who would take great delight in a large number of civilian casualities. In fact, stick around awhile. They will soon be gloating about each incident of a misdirected bomb so that they can have even more reasons to hate America. Without civilian casualities the left would have to direct their hatred from all things American to actually trying to help someone.

Do explain why you are clamouring for an attack on Iraq. If there wouldn't be a war, there wouldn't be bombs dropped. The root cause of civilian causalties is a trigger happy GWB administration. Please explain how this is related to the left you are trying so hard to demonise.

quote: Originally posted by Lincoln I hope I was only kidding Sava.

Please explain which bit of the post is supposed to be funny.

	18-03-2003 19:21									#24
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500.000 Iraqi children have died. Acknowledged even by the american admin which said they were a good price to pay for furthering US foreign policy.


500.000 civilians will die is the official UN estimate.

100.000 from the angloamerican bombs
400.000 from diseases associated with the war.

	18-03-2003 19:22									#25
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand 48 hours. Adios, muthas!

May the guilt of the soon-to-be-dead civilians be upon your conscience.

	18-03-2003 19:38									#26
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 it's not so much the propaganda it's the angloamerican bombs and the int community sanctions. 500.000 children have died because of them.

Was it the sanctions or their leader using the money to build palaces instead of helping his people? Saddam is the king of propaganda. He works the world stage quite well. This time he overplayed his hand.

	18-03-2003 19:39									#27
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No, it was the sanctions that made it impossible for the children to have any med care.

They die even from the flu, and that's because of the sanctions.


They thought that'd piss them against Sadam, it pissed them against the US.

	18-03-2003 19:42									#28
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I laugh at your assumption. Then why haven't the kurds in the north suffered to the same degree? Hmmm.. Maybe it's the leader that is the difference.

	18-03-2003 19:45									#29
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no, it's whom the US has sanctions against and whom it helps actively. kurds dont have the 1st, have the 2nd.

I laught at your assumptions yankee

	18-03-2003 19:45									#30
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Rah: the kurds also have an easier time selling their oil to the outside world.

I agree that Saddam is the major difference, though.