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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:27
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Elok, when it was government buildings etc I was all for it. Now it is outa bounds, but what I like is that the civilized Iraqi people are starting to organize and will get control of the situation themselves.
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Lincoln
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Almost any order is better than none. Let this be a lesson to the anarchists out there. People are basically greedy and depraved. We would see the same thing in America if the laws were suspended for a day. Of course some would show restraint just as they do in Iraq and then order would be restored one way or another. Anarchy does not work. Freedom is a very fragile thing.
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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
time: 00:27
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Just Tell Us The Truth
NEW YORK, April 6, 2003
A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy
Rooney.
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I've lived a long while now and I don't remember any
more unpleasant times than these. I'm not even
interested in reading the sports pages. I hate
everything about this war except that we're winning
it.
You can't even be critical, either, without sounding
unpatriotic. It's why Peter Arnett got fired by NBC
for speaking on Iraqi television.
I'm patriotic but I wish our government would stop
treating this war as if they had to sell it to us with
slick advertising slogans.
The White House Web site puts out a bulletin about the
war with this headline: OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM.
Come on, all we want is the news, not a sales pitch.
They called our bombing campaign against Baghdad
"Shock and Awe."
After the UN refused to approve the war, our
government put together a list of countries it said
supported us. They called it a "coalition of the
willing."
The generals don't talk about American soldiers. It's
always "coalition forces."
It's as if there were no Americans there.
Reporters have been sucked into it, too.
The word makes it sound as though we're just a few
countries short of having the whole world on our side,
and that isn't true. Most of the world is against us.
The Administration says 49 countries are part of the
coalition. I see that Eritrea, Uganda and Iceland are
on our side.
The fact is, though, we're in this thing with the
British, who have 45,000 soldiers there, and the
Australians, who have 2,000. That's it. The other 46
wish us well or let us fly bombers over their country.
Big deal.
We've practically bribed some of them. We offered
Turkey $15 billion to let our troops go through there
but they refused. President Bush won't be sending the
president of Turkey anything for his birthday this
year.
There aren't any good wars, but this one is especially
bad. We want to win it quickly without more death but
we're grown-up people, too. The President, Rumsfeld
and the generals ought to stop treating us like
children. Tell us the truth. We can take it even when
it's bad.
And the only real good news will be when this terrible
time in American history is over.
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:27
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quote:
Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
The Iraqi people are. |
Really?
Let's dance. 
Thumbs up! (wonder how many Americans know what that means when done by an arab?)
Dancing while looting the German embassy - of course, it's a Baathist government facility, like the hospitals, private homes, and every other place that's being looted.
In case you hadn't paid any attention, people weren't out dancing today. Instead, the ingrates are *****ing about food, water, medical aid, security. At least the ones who aren't busy looting are doing that.
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They are being given a chance at freedom. A long and awful era in which they suffered under Saddam is over. No doubt there is hardship that comes with war. No doubt there is difficulty ahead. No doubt there road forward is fraught with the danger. But at leas they now have a chance. It will not be easy, but now they have a chance of going down the road towards a democracy. And whatever happens, their cruel overlord who imprisoned them for so long is vanquished.
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Great speech. You might have a future ahead of yourself in politics. For a lot of Iraqis, your "chance" won't mean much when they start burying their kids, due to lack of food and water. They're doing that now. Many cities have been without water for over a week now. I guess you can drink raw river water, too bad you're downstream from the entire agricultural center of the country, not that they have much. But a little biological matter in your water never hurt much, huh? You could always boil it, if you had electricity or fuel.
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But I guess that is beyond what you can do; it is beyond you to grasp what the Iraqi people grasp and to feel what they feel. |
Telhasi tizi. 
I'm so glad that people like you can speak for the Iraqis - at least those few you like seeing. It must feel great to congratulate yourself for sitting in comfortable Pittsburgh with electricity, running water and food, watching a few hundred people in a city of five million jumping up and down over tearing down a statue, three miles from where a US Marine was being killed and 22 others wounded. Not to mention that pesky suicide bomber, or the guys who planted the command detonated mine that killed another American soldier today. Let's ignore how many of them are dying daily from that inconvenient bit about "hardships." Let's ignore that quite a few seem ready to keep killing us, at least one or two at a time. Forget those who were dancing in Safwan saying "We are ready to die for you, Saddam" repeatedly. Keep that little mental picture of those who were dancing in the square when the Saddam statue was taken down. Your little speech and that mental picture may come in really handy in the coming months, so you can maintain your comfortable view. After all, you know what the Iraqis are feeling.
Let's not consider that maybe they're celebrating just as much that with us controlling most of Baghdad, we won't be bombing or shooting their asses anymore. Democracy? We're a foreign invader with guns. They're third world people lacking food, water and jobs. We're going to install a defacto occupation government, then we're going to delegate some (gradually more, one would hope) tasks to a provisional Iraqi government for which we vette the eligible participants. Then somewhere down the road, hopefully, the Iraqis will be able to do something else, if Chalabi or an Iranian sponsored cleric doesn't have other plans. Meanwhile, if they don't get food or water, or jobs, then democracy, if or when it happens, won't mean squat.
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Lincoln
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I think Dan Rather is retiring Mike. Maybe there is a job opening for you. And bring your pictures!
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