13-04-2003 15:27									#181
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stop kissing Marcos' ass.

	13-04-2003 15:30									#183
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Actually these opinions are nothing new for me.

	13-04-2003 15:35									#184
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quote: How are things for the Greeks on Cyprus? Why hasn't Greece invaded?

luckily the turkish troops have helped the greek-cypriots of the northern part move over to the sourthern part


vile propoganda?????

	13-04-2003 15:37									#185
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Whatcha gonna do, ban me?!





er, wait, no, NOOOOO!! .#%*()&E#%#....





*end transmission*

	13-04-2003 15:39									#186
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Whatcha gonna do, ban me?!

as you might have noticed, noone has been banned from apolyton for attacking me. so the joke is not on me

	13-04-2003 15:40									#187
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Ethnic cleansing eh?

	13-04-2003 15:41									#188
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Oh no, IT'S ON ME!!!

Nah, I am cool with that. just ****ing around.

	13-04-2003 15:57									#189
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Ethnic cleansing eh?

6,000 killed
200,000 refugees (33% of the population)
and to complete the threadjack
http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/c...Luns_700_bg.jpg





now let's return to the looting, eeeer dancing

	13-04-2003 16:03									#190
	Might take me a few minutes to get to your link Markos... Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

...having to wade through all these Apolyton popups.

	13-04-2003 16:07									#191
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helping to end the threadjack

Chaos, looting foster anti-U.S. sentiment
http://www.jsonline.com/news/intl/apr03/132951.asp


On the Edge of Chaos in Kirkuk
http://www.time.com/time/world/arti...,443089,00.html

quote: But one thing was perfectly intact: the machinery around the city's oil fields, which produce about a third of Iraq's oil exports. American soldiers, who were almost absent from the city where so much looting was going on, were out in force around the adjacent oil fields, which account for a third of Iraq's oil exports, a fact not lost on the locals. "This war was clearly for these oilfields," concluded Hasan Muhamed, a Kurd who tried to visit the area around the oil fields to see a sick friend, only to be turned away by members of the 173rd Airborne. They had blocked all roads into the area with razor wire. "Saddam Hussein never gave us a penny for this oil, and now it looks like the Americans are going to take it." Leaning against his beat-up white Chevrolet in the blazing sun, he said he was confused about the outcome of the war so far. "We thank the Americans a lot for liberating the Iraqis. And those who were against the war, I ask God to forgive them. But I don't know. When the war started we thought that soon everything would be better. Now it's not clear. I see this and I don't know what to think."

	13-04-2003 16:11									#192
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We agreed with Mr Sisco for supporting the Turkish army during the lending(?) as well as in the violent expusion of Makerios(?)

Joeseph Luns(?)

Secretary General of Nato

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Joseph Luns is an American?

Makerios are Greeks I take it. If Joseph Luns is American I'll call my congressman.

It's 'Luns' isn't it?

	13-04-2003 16:15									#193
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does the general secretary of nato ever have anything to do with the US? naaaah

how's this for an american
http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/c...nger_200_sm.jpg



on-topic
http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,33...%3A00_2,00.html

quote: The International Red Cross has said that Baghdad's medical system has more or less collapsed due to destruction, looting and anarchy. It said that the unattended dead, increasing summer heat and lack of water, electricity and medical supplies had created a high risk of epidemic disease. The IRC said that the 33 hospitals in Baghdad's city of 5 million were in no condition to deal with war-wounded or patients with chronic diseases.

	13-04-2003 16:28									#194
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Joseph Luns was either Belgian or Dutch - I can never remember which. I think he was Dutch...

Anyway, he was Secretary General in the late seventies and was succeeded by Lord Carrington.

	13-04-2003 18:50									#195
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Thanks Winston, Dutch. Sorry Markos, you haven't found the smoking gun.

	13-04-2003 19:01									#196
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I would think there shouldn't be any problems finding a smoking gun in a warzone...

	13-04-2003 19:07									#197
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Words of wisdom.

	13-04-2003 21:26									#199
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Markos has issues. What on earth did this have to do with Cyprus?

	13-04-2003 21:27									#200
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Yesterday, papers in Saudi Arabia and Lebanon agreed that "some" of the looting appears to be "revenge."

Today the story from Baghdad is that the looting has largely subsided -- except that the people sacked one of Saddam's palaces. The comments from the looters are along the lines of "So this is how our Pharoh lived?"

The problem with the anti-Americans here is that they refuse to admit that any part of the looting is for the purposes of revenge. The pro-democracy people admit that some of the looting is pure lawlessness.

Apparently, even the Arab press recognizes the that some, if not most, of the looting, sacking and burning is directed at the regime.

	13-04-2003 22:21									#201
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Yeah! all worth looting already was! Good thing.

Ned: so you think revenge is good? Interesting. I guess it is better than Justice.

	13-04-2003 23:14									#202
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quote: The problem with the anti-Americans here is that they refuse to admit that any part of the looting is for the purposes of revenge.

1) revenge is ok?
2) the problem is not what motivates looting(other than the refusion of US troops to do anything about it). the problem is the results of looting(you know people dieing, properties stolen, other insignifant stuff compared to FREEDOM)

	14-04-2003 00:52									#203
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Robin hood stole from an unjust government that extracted wealth without consent from the people and gave it to the poor.

I think that looting of Saddam's palaces, government offices and Ba'ath party facilities and homes is entirely appropriate.

Killing without justification is murder. However, there are examples of Nazi's being killed even by American officers immediately after discovery of the "camps." What the SS did was so horrible as to forfeit any right to due process.

The Ba'ath party appears to have been worse than the Nazi's.

	14-04-2003 00:55									#204
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Ned, IIRC, you are a big Reagan supporter. Tax the poor give to the rich, hope it trickles down. Don't quote say you support Robin Hood style justice when its obvious you don't.

	14-04-2003 01:17									#205
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Ned, IIRC, you are a big Reagan supporter. Tax the poor give to the rich, hope it trickles down. Don't quote say you support Robin Hood style justice when its obvious you don't.

Since when is taking from the government in the form of tax cuts and returning the money to the people not the very essence of Reaganism.

	14-04-2003 01:25									#206
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quote: I think that looting of Saddam's palaces, government offices and Ba'ath party facilities and homes is entirely appropriate.

(i have this strange idea of repeating myself)
it's also hospitals, museums, stores, banks, hotels....

quote: Killing without justification is murder.

and what is allowing murder in a location for which you are responsible?

	14-04-2003 01:27									#207
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Since when is taking from the government in the form of tax cuts and returning the money to the people not the very essence of Reaganism.

Answer: When the poor and middle classes are taxed, and when the rich and corporations receive free money.

	14-04-2003 02:27									#208
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I love how pro-war people go to interviews of Iraqis in the act of looting government buildings, obviously trying to justify the fact that they are looting by saying "Oh, well the Baathists have been taking from us so long." Well the fact is that the US forces are supposedly there to rectify the situation and the stuff they are looting would be better and more fairly used for the benefit of the Iraqi people by a recognized government.

I wonder what the many Iraqi people who are looting museums, banks, shops, and private homes of people who are not Baathists would say to justify themselves.

	14-04-2003 02:56									#209
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There is no excuse for looting museums, shops and innocent folks homes. Obviously, we were totally unprepared for the speed of the regime's collapse across the whole country. Otherwise, we would have had police on hand.

If there is a subsequent inquiry on this, I think Frank's plan may be faulted for overestimating the staying power of Saddam's regime.

	14-04-2003 02:59									#210
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quote: Originally posted by gsmoove23 I wonder what the many Iraqi people who are looting museums, banks, shops, and private homes of people who are not Baathists would say to justify themselves.

wild guess: we don't give a ****.

and they'd not be lying. it's so easy to take the moral highground from the comfort of your armchair.