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thinkingamer
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Nasty. Vicious.
It could block one of those colossus things without dying.
The only thing to do is to play Mana Short, followed by Control Magic.  |
Sorry, it doesn't work; provably, the guy will respond, by tapping all his plains and give Jareth protection of the colors of his opponent.
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Originally posted by Panda
... Chainer's Edict, Diabolic Edict, Innocent Blood, Mutilate, Wrath of God, Evacuation, and probably many more.
I actually played against this in the pre-release, but the one time my oppo had this is hand he couldn't get the triple-white mana necessary until too late.
If you think Jareth's a buff, check out Exalted Angel, the most sought after card in Onslaught Block:
Exalted Angel
{4}{W}{W}
Creature - Angel
4/5
Flying. Whenever Exalted Angel deals damage, you gain that much life. Morph 2WW (You may play this face down as a 2/2 creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
Note that Exalted Angel doesn't require damage to be "combat damage". |
I think the EA is more popular than Jareth, because it is much more flexible, (Morph 2WW ) and more doble/triple color deck friendly. With its built in spirit link ability, this angel is better overall than Serra Angel IMHO. But unlike Jarreth, Exalted Angel will be much easier to kill (don't you hate, when your shivan dragon is removed by simple spells such as terror?).
If you give Serra Embrace to Jareth, this creature will be unbeatable except with spells like Wrath of God.
Serra Embrace:
{cost (2)ww}
Enchant Creature
"enchanted creature gets +2/+2, flying and attacking w/ the enchanted creature won't tap it.
Last edited by thinkingamer on 24-05-2003 at 09:53
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Urban Ranger
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Apolyton Duke of Off-Topic
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Originally posted by thinkingamer
Sorry, it doesn't work; provably, the guy will respond, by tapping all his plains and give Jareth protection of the colors of his opponent. |
You can't. Mana Short is an instant. Instants resolve in FIFO fashion.
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Originally posted by thinkingamer
With its built in spirit link ability, this angel is better overall than Serra Angel IMHO. |
I suppose that depends on the deck construction.
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Originally posted by thinkingamer
But unlike Jarreth, Exalted Angel will be much easier to kill (don't you hate, when your shivan dragon is removed by simple spells such as terror?). |
Well, if you construct your deck around the Exalted Angel, you probably put in some sort of protection in the deck, like black wards.
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Originally posted by thinkingamer
Serra Embrace:
{cost (2)ww}
Enchant Creature
"enchanted creature gets +2/+2, flying and attacking w/ the enchanted creature won't tap it. |
Ouch, that's nasty too.
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thinkingamer
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
You can't. Mana Short is an instant. Instants resolve in FIFO fashion. |
Isn't tapping mana source supposed to be faster than an instant? I really dont know 7th edition rules, and I used to play 5th edition rules. And what is FIFO?
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New York City, NY
Jan 1970
time: 00:27
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Re: Mana Short vs. Jareth?
In response to casting Mana Short, you can tap mana. This is kind of important being that if you wanted to, say, counter it, it helps to be able to tap mana. So, in response to Mana Short, you can tap white mana and give Jareth prot blue (and burn any more mana on it as you desire).
That said...
I cast Mana Short in your upkeep. You can only play instants or activated abilities in response (since it's not their main phase yet). You give Jareth prot blue in response. Congratulations, I say. You pass the turn without doing anything because you have no mana. On my turn, Jareth's protections are gone (they last until end of turn), and you can cast Control Magic. Unless your opponent was a bastard and had a plains in hand, which he played on his turn after you already tapped his land and emptied his mana. So maybe Shorting him at the end of his turn is safer, although then he can spend his mana on other things during the turn.
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thinkingamer
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Originally posted by SnowFire
Re: Mana Short vs. Jareth?
In response to casting Mana Short, you can tap mana. This is kind of important being that if you wanted to, say, counter it, it helps to be able to tap mana. So, in response to Mana Short, you can tap white mana and give Jareth prot blue (and burn any more mana on it as you desire).
That said...
I cast Mana Short in your upkeep. You can only play instants or activated abilities in response (since it's not their main phase yet). You give Jareth prot blue in response. Congratulations, I say. You pass the turn without doing anything because you have no mana. On my turn, Jareth's protections are gone (they last until end of turn), and you can cast Control Magic. Unless your opponent was a bastard and had a plains in hand, which he played on his turn after you already tapped his land and emptied his mana. So maybe Shorting him at the end of his turn is safer, although then he can spend his mana on other things during the turn. |
then, I guess Im correct 
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thinkingamer
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Originally posted by SnowFire
Re: Mana Short vs. Jareth?
In response to casting Mana Short, you can tap mana. This is kind of important being that if you wanted to, say, counter it, it helps to be able to tap mana. So, in response to Mana Short, you can tap white mana and give Jareth prot blue (and burn any more mana on it as you desire).
That said...
I cast Mana Short in your upkeep. You can only play instants or activated abilities in response (since it's not their main phase yet). You give Jareth prot blue in response. Congratulations, I say. You pass the turn without doing anything because you have no mana. On my turn, Jareth's protections are gone (they last until end of turn), and you can cast Control Magic. Unless your opponent was a bastard and had a plains in hand, which he played on his turn after you already tapped his land and emptied his mana. So maybe Shorting him at the end of his turn is safer, although then he can spend his mana on other things during the turn. |
I guess, having a birds of paradise (my fav. green card ever since 4th edition) is the best way to solve this Jareth problem
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23-05-2003 23:48
Now all we need is a way to channel damage from exalted Angel. 
Attachment: 
I'll throw in "Day of the Dragons", and be set for about a year!
, but gota watch out those counter spells 
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