26-05-2003 11:45									#121
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Obiwan18: Check your PM's.

	26-05-2003 12:48									#122
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Ah, found it. The anti-Necropotence card

quote: Anvil of Bogardan 2, Artifact, Visions Rare Each player skips his or her discard phase. During each player’s draw phase, that player draws an additional card and then chooses and discards a card.

	26-05-2003 12:49									#123
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Dinodoc: Its a remake of a very old card.

Not quite the same, though.

	27-05-2003 11:40									#124
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quote: Anvil of Bogardan 2, Artifact, Visions Rare Each player skips his or her discard phase. During each player’s draw phase, that player draws an additional card and then chooses and discards a card.

There's an answer for everything, if you're willing to look hard enough.

And people tell me dual lands are broken. Pah.

	27-05-2003 12:29									#125
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Blue-either counterspell or Vesuvian Doppleganger.

Counterspell-Nothing beats the feeling of countering your friends 30 damage fireball.

Vesuvian Doppleganger-It can be anything. I once cloned my Vesuvian with a Clone. I had only one Vesuvian but had more than enough clones, so I dropped her down, then summoned the Clones.

why does that last part sound familiar....?

	27-05-2003 23:01									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan Counterspell-Nothing beats the feeling of countering your friends 30 damage fireball.

I enjoy variants on the counterspell, such as (my favorites) Force of Will and Thwart. Both of those are game winners in my book.

	28-05-2003 08:32									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. President There's an answer for everything, if you're willing to look hard enough. And people tell me dual lands are broken. Pah.

Just because dual lands are broken doesn't mean other cards aren't A broken card is one that is very powerful with little cost.

If you look at some of the black or red anti-weenie cards, they're pretty much broken, too.

Anyway, I won't say the Anvil of Bogardan is broken. It's just a more powerful version of Library of Leng and Spellbook, but it also renders you more susceptable to Stormseeker and the like. It's just that Necropotence works in the discard phase, which gets totally choked by the Anvil.

	28-05-2003 09:04									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Nice! Goes great with white weenies.

I once made a blue/white control deck where the Kjeldoran Outpost was the only way to kill

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	28-05-2003 09:05									#129
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it was all blue actually (just had a couple creatures that change the land type (So I could change an island into a plains and put out the Outpost and than pump out soldiers with the outpost))

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	29-05-2003 11:48									#130
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This card is way, way, broken

quote: Extinction 4B, Sorcery, Tempest Rare Destroy all creatures of any creature type of your choice.

It is not more expensive than Wrath of God, with none or very minimal consequences to the player.

	29-05-2003 13:30									#131
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The sliver killer. There is only one card that works better, Humility.

	29-05-2003 18:42									#132
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Censorship could do some serious harm to a sliver deck...

But clearly the best card is The Cheese Stands Alone.

	29-05-2003 19:17									#133
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Unglued Cards rule. I actually own an Urza's Science Fair Project. But I still prefer playing against the Knight of the Hokey Pokey.

edit: I've just re-read the card lists. Some of these are so good. And... why is it that they also have the coolest land art of any expansion? It's amazing.

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	29-05-2003 19:27									#134
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Land Destruction is also powerful against Sliver decks cause you have to use at least 3 colours to have a powerful sliver deck.

And yes, humility is painful.... but it does cripple your creatures too.... so its not much of a sideboard, unless you have direct damage.

	29-05-2003 19:43									#135
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Yeah, here we go. These Rock. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/arcana/347

	29-05-2003 19:55									#136
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Apparently people were buying Unglued packs just for the lands.

And for Timmy, Power Gamer. Just wait til I get my Leviathan.

	29-05-2003 20:16									#137
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Apparently people were buying Unglued packs just for the lands.

Wouldn't you? They look a hell of a lot better than the lands from the real sets.

	29-05-2003 21:43									#138
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Yeah, I did once or twice. Got me some plains and an island. Trouble was that £2 was quite a lot for one land card, when I needed 20 or 30.

	29-05-2003 22:01									#139
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loin,

Oh yeah, The Cheese Stands Alone is great.

quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 The sliver killer. There is only one card that works better, Humility.

Yup, that's what I thought. Crystalline Slivers notwithstanding.

	30-05-2003 00:39									#140
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the card with what I could get all my money back.

	30-05-2003 00:56									#141
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 The sliver killer.

That's what makes Ward Slivers such a life-saver.

	30-05-2003 05:04									#142
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How useful is lingering death? I got one card of it in the booster pack I bought and was thinking of slipping it into my Zombie deck.

	30-05-2003 08:23									#143
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc That's what makes Ward Slivers such a life-saver.

Nope. Wards (i.e., protection from some colour) doesn't work against non-targeted spells.

	30-05-2003 08:24									#144
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc How useful is lingering death?

What does it do?

	30-05-2003 16:51									#145
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quote: Crystalline Slivers notwithstanding.

Humility is a non-targetted effect, so is extinction. Humility is much more fun because unless the player decided to put in a disenchant, the game is over.

I lost once to the combo of Humility, and Island Sanctuary. My friend asked me if I had a disenchant. I ended up drawing all my deck just to make sure.

	30-05-2003 17:23									#146
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Well, obiwan, thats what happens with creature decks. I guess no red or black in that one, eh?

	30-05-2003 21:31									#147
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger What does it do?

It's an enchant spell that forces the owner of the target creature to sacrifice it at the end of his turn.

	31-05-2003 13:52									#148
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That's pretty mean.

Gotta make sure you don't cast it on Wonder.

	31-05-2003 14:24									#149
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I once proposed at the MTGNews.com message boards that there should be Dinosaur creatures. A couple of 14-year-olds lectured me that Magic is not set on Earth and that Dinosaurs are inappropriate, but I got the last laugh.

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	31-05-2003 15:32									#150
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc It's an enchant spell that forces the owner of the target creature to sacrifice it at the end of his turn.

That could be useful if you don't have other major ways to wipe out enemy meanies.

More useful though if you combine it with re-animation spells, ones that let you dig through graveyards to put critters in play.