02-05-2003 02:22									#31
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Well it shows Western Thrace as not a part of Greece and it became part of Greece in 1918

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I don't know enough to tell by the countries when the globe was made, but:

Ohio Art Metal Globe Bank, Circa 1950s/1960s – made of tin with its original tin trap on the bottom and a lithographed message that reads, "World Bank – As You Save So You Prosper"

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	02-05-2003 02:24									#33
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Alright, time for another picture I guess and this Israel question certainly deserves some looking into. It had confused me before but with some of the other evidence I thought it might be a zionist or Bible thumper who made the map . You'll notice PAL also written below Israel.



Obviously its not the most accurate of maps but give the guy a break its 5 inches tall. I figure while he may not be on top of changing borders at least he's not a psychic. Weird border between Syria and Iraq.

Fez, I'd love to see a picture of that.

Azazel, you wish.

	02-05-2003 02:25									#34
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 1918. So logically the globe was made before 1918. Unless of course it's a copy.

Can't be. Ireland is partitioned.

	02-05-2003 02:27									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch Can't be. Ireland is partitioned.

:shrugs:

Well these are the facts: NW Thrace is not shown as part of Greece and it became part of Greece in 1918.

	02-05-2003 02:28									#36
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looks to me like India is still unified.

Edit: whoops, yeah it can.

	02-05-2003 02:28									#37
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Well it shows Western Thrace as not a part of Greece and it became part of Greece in 1918

That's because the art on small tin globes is usually attrocious

It's a 1948 globe. India hasn't been subdivided and Sudan is still an Anglo-Egyptian Corporation.

	02-05-2003 02:28									#38
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Can you give us a shot of the Indian subcontinent? IIRC, the British withdrew from the area in 1948, and the names of the countries there would help date it.

So far, we seem to be looking at a 1947-48 date on this.

	02-05-2003 02:29									#39
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Sudan is called Anglo-Egyptian in the map? Iran is not called Persia?

I agree with the people that is guessin it is a post-WWII map, but only a few years after...

Or maybe just at the end of the WWII.

	02-05-2003 02:29									#40
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"Anglo-Egyptian Sudan"??

"Trans-Jordan"?? (or TR. JORDAN)

Those are old names. Why not "Ultima Thule" while we're at it?

And is India partitioned??!!!

	02-05-2003 02:30									#41
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it's gotta be 1948.

	02-05-2003 02:30									#42
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara That's because the art on small tin globes is usually attrocious

Me thinks the maker was maybe a bit behind current events of that time

	02-05-2003 02:31									#43
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Maybe the map is just after the ONU was designing (or approving) the partition between Israel and Palestine, but before the Israel's War of Independence...

	02-05-2003 02:31									#44
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quote: Azazel, you wish.

Ok, Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, Israel exists:

48-56 is our time range, people.

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That company did a lot of banks!

	02-05-2003 02:34									#46
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1947 or 1948.

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What about 1946?

Looking at the Asian portion, it becomes obvious.

Show us India in full!

	02-05-2003 02:35									#48
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Oh yes, I see those little Pa letters there. 48.

	02-05-2003 02:35									#49
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 What about 1946?

Too early for Israel.

	02-05-2003 02:36									#50
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This page might help

[url="http://www.murrayhudson.com/antique_globes/globes_8inch.html]here[/url]

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara That's because the art on small tin globes is usually attrocious It's a 1948 globe. India hasn't been subdivided and Sudan is still an Anglo-Egyptian Corporation.

Look at the very southeast part of where Pakistan today is. It looks like it could be another color.

	02-05-2003 02:39									#52
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doesn't explain Palestine. Palestine was forgotten rather quickly after the ceasefire.

	02-05-2003 02:41									#53
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doesn't look like it to me. I think I can see clear to Gujarat, and it's all the same colour as Pakistan.

	02-05-2003 02:41									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf A rush job, I reckon

That's my opinion too.
And it's strange because globes are evaluated for just that: their geographical accuracy.

We can't take everything as being depicted correctly on that globe.

	02-05-2003 02:42									#55
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That's my reason for suggestion that the map could be pre- "Israel's War of Independence" but post-"UN partition plot for Israel & Palestine"

	02-05-2003 02:43									#56
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But 1956 would be too late for a unified Germany.

1947-48 sounds about right. I'd favour 1947.

	02-05-2003 02:45									#57
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The independence war lasted for a year or so. the year was 48'. It could be during the war.

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quote: Labrador is a different color than Canada, but the island of Newfoundland is not. When did the Newfies join, 1948 or so?

Sharp eye.

"At its own request, after a plebiscite, Newfoundland enters the Confederation as the tenth and most recent province of the Dominion of Canada."

Date is 1949:
http://www.nlc-bnc.ca/2/18/h18-2101-e.html

	02-05-2003 02:47									#59
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Hey, did you make sure to check the bottom of the globe for a date of manufacturing BTW?

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Makes sense. 49'. that was when the ceasefire agreements were signed here.