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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:27
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Originally posted by Shiber
What's up with this vote of no confidence?
GoW must be feeling that its screwing things up and is getting nervous about the upcoming war. Hopefully this means that they will be ripe for the taking, and more prone to accepting our offers during the next chat. |
I'd say its another charade. One would think that they would randomly misplace everyday threads like we do, but they only seem to post the interesting ones on the main page. A ruse, I would bet.
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notyoueither
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of naught
Aug 2001
time: 22:27
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Notes on a momentus chat.
GoW loosened the strings on the bag, but required some assurance from us before they would open it. Nathan and I conferred in our private channel. We agreed that there was a consensus here to grant an NAP with GoW to set up the conditions for war on Bob.
Therefore, I agreed to a 30 turn NAP with GoW, effective 50BC, with a condition that it be kept secret by both sides. GoW then revealed the contents of the bag. I will consider the NAP finalised when I receive a ratified document from GoW, but we should abide by it unless they refuse to send such a document.
ND and GoW will attack RP in 10BC.
They invite us to send units. They were trying to gain assurances that we would leave Bob after the war. Nathan and I discouraged such ideas. GoW tried to blame ND for the no cities on Bob condition.
We are arranging a chat with GoW and ND on Sunday at 1800 GMT.
We, as a team, are sworn to utmost secrecy with regards to the contents of this chat. That goes without saying, however given the level of GoW's concern on the subject, and the contents, I feel it beneficial to emphasise that here.
We must be very careful. ND and GoW over-running RP and turning on us in the South would be a likely scenario. We cannot force the issue, or that would be assured.
We are in a good position. Without an NAP with ND, we are a threat to their plans still. Lego is being discounted by GoW. I think they are making a grave error.
The future looks bright. However. there are some remaining clouds in the sky.
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:27
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Interesting log.
I wonder how they want to partition Bob, post RP. Looks to be a mish mash of nationalities, with GoW cities on both sides of ND. Pehaps they have some city exchange planned out to smooth it out.
Why would we get involved in this if they won't allow us to keep the cities? I think at a minimum we must be allowed two cities on Bob, where Barcelona currently stands and the coastal town southwest of it, netting us two more luxuries. Perhaps a third on the other coast where Vigo is or the town with the ivory, giving us another lux and a quick jump to the eastern edge of lego.
I don't think paying us in exchange for the cities is adequate. How much is a size 5 city worth? Certainly more than they can afford to pay us. And they dont' have anything else thats valuable, ie. techs. And the promise of a joint mission on lego is quite distant at this point, and we know GoW has a short attention span.
The elimination of that RP galley does sound satisfying.
normally I would think this a trap, but they seem to just want us to watch from the sidelines for the most part.
Anyone want to bet that this plan gets out before 10BC? Will RP ask for lego to launch against northern bob? If miraculously RP doesn't learn of our pact, will they come to us? We need to prepare for how to deal with them. What about Vox, would they land a wave or two of immortals in the north?
--Which reminds me, will Vox be off our continent by then? Don't want them to get any ideas while everybody is paying attention to Bob.
The thought of riders and ansars swooping down together is a bit....unnerving. Hmm. Going to be slow going through all that jungle though.
Would GoW RoP Rape ND? Tantalizing thought.
Are ND and GoW still weak compared to us? What about RP? I think they might need us to open an Eastern front to tip the scales a bit. And I think we would be well served to take out their latest settlements quickly, nothing will be worse than having to listen to RP ***** and moan while taking four or five extra turns to move south.
Maybe lego will let RP share New Estonia with Vox? That would be awfully cozy.
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:27
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amusing about theMPP RPs trying to get. The stalling part is the best as it does echo what RP did to lux early in the game, as admitted by Togas in the Intersite forum. And to top off that RP's "deviousness "is going to bite them in the ass is priceless. PTW karma.
Wonder if the MPP was general or specific to us or ND. Probably us. 5 pages is ridiculous. One line is necessary. They attack us, you declare war, over the next 20 turns. RP is killing themselves while they are patting each other on the back.
edit: just read this line from the inter forum by togas: Stalling -- as an amusing sidenote, the "stalling" tactic I mentioned above was intentionally used only once. H_E is confusing stalling with another negotiation tactic: negotiating from strength. When you know you have the upperhand in a situation, press your advantage. What H_E and several less astute GoW members failed to see was, we knew they needed the deal more than us.
a bit condescending, eh? I had only been thinking about Togas being a bastard towards us, had forgotten how he has acted toward
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10-07-2003 22:26
), so could NYE or Theseus or anyone else for that matter let UnO know about when are we going to do it (which day, that is).
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