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Inverse Icarus
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flying too low to the ground
May 2001
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MrFun, everything else aside, what does Gay Pride do for your movement?
I understand that you want to be proud of who you are, and you have that right. You have the right to organize, you have the right to parade, all that good stuff, but what does it do other than make you feel better about yourself?
as Fez said, there are possible backlashes. not only that, theres just simply the fact that it seems like the Gays are just "forcing" it on everyone, with their "we're here, we're queer, get used to it" motto.
So, elighten me. I'm sure you'll come up with valid points. I'm genuinely curious as to what you think such activities do for you gay community.
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MrFun
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Nov 2000
time: 23:28
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Originally posted by Uber KruX
MrFun, everything else aside, what does Gay Pride do for your movement?
I understand that you want to be proud of who you are, and you have that right. You have the right to organize, you have the right to parade, all that good stuff, but what does it do other than make you feel better about yourself?
as Fez said, there are possible backlashes. not only that, theres just simply the fact that it seems like the Gays are just "forcing" it on everyone, with their "we're here, we're queer, get used to it" motto.
So, elighten me. I'm sure you'll come up with valid points. I'm genuinely curious as to what you think such activities do for you gay community. |
Homosexuals have long been shoved into social closets and forbidden to disclose their sexual orientation in the same way that heterosexuals do.
Gay Pride seems to have originated as a form of direct, active protest against injustices against homosexuals. Some claim that the first Gay Pride protest emerged the next day from the Stonewall protest in New York City in 1969. Gay Pride continues to serve as a method of protest for homosexuals, while at the same time, retaining a festive, celebratory atmosphere.
I will never forget the first time I went to Gay Pride -- it was in Chicago in the year 2000. I was really inspired to see so many homosexuals, bisexuals and other types of non-heterosexuals. I realized afterwards that our situation is not that hopeless. So in another way, Gay Pride events can help uplift young homosexuals struggling to acccept themselves.
Homosexuals are not forcing their sexual orientation -- unless they are immature jerks looking to shock people in inappropriate behavior that would not be appropriate for straight people, as well.
Many homosexuals are demanding social acceptance to the extent that they can comfortably express themselves the same way as heterosexuals. And that they can publicly celebrate life's milestones, such as a life-long, monomgamous relationship.
Like any minority group, we have our extremists as well. Those who seek to alienate and shock others through outrageous, inappropriate behavior. They are just one of the groups undermining the continuing gay civil rights movement.
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MrFun
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of Iowa
Nov 2000
time: 23:28
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Originally posted by Uber KruX
perhaps this is my ignorance speaking, infact it is, so forget it, i'll just ask it as a question: what percentage of gays are completely monomagous? |
Monogamy versus open relationships can sometimes be a hot-button issue among homosexuals themselves.
Some gays argue that men, through natural evolution behave like most males of other mammal species -- they are not monogamously inclined -- they go after one female after another. So these people argue that monogamous relationships between two men who are both not naturally monogamously inclined, are not likely to succeed in a monogamous relationship. The only reason that heterosexual marriages survive the way they do (not ones ending in divorce) is because the woman plays the balancing part against the man's natural sexual tendencies.
This is their argument, but while I understand their argument, I still believe that two men can establish a successful, monogamous relationship. The problem is that not very many gay men want to try and make the effort since it takes a lot of work. I believe that gay men can overcome this natural sexual tendency argued above, even with the absence of a female partner/spouse. I desire a monogamous relationship.
I argue that the anti-gay laws in United States help to prevent homosexuals from embracing the family values that many conservatives claim are important in society. Often, the same conservatives who complain that homosexuals constantly seem to fail to embrace family values, advocate for laws that prevent or discourage homosexuals from embracing such family values.
In spite of these homophobic obstacles though, there are a minority of homosexuals who create stable families of their own through legal loopholes and legal tactics. How many more homosexuals would create good families with the absence of anti-gay laws?
In other words, anti-gay laws seem to discourage the development of more strong monogamous relationships among gay men.
Oh, and as for the original question about what percentage of homosexuals believe in monogamy -- I don't know if there was ever a survey conducted to find out.
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