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Originally posted by Tuomerehu
Why should we aid married couples? |
Because they're the ones ensuring the future of the human race - and doing it in the most socially acceptable way.
I could bang on about kids from marriages being "better" than single parent/gay parent families but I won't go there.
Judge for yourself and live your own lives.
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:28
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you know, why is it so hard to make people just accept the following:
1. people will love particular people, regardless of gender.
2. in cultures where monogamy is a socially accepted norm, couples will eventually want an exclusive, monogamous relationship.
3. in said cultures, there is most likely a legal system set up to help said exclusive, monogamous relationships.
4. said legal definitions and structures should be non-discriminatory towards sexuality, ethnicity, belief structure, etc, and should be upheld no matter what the nature of exclusive, monogamous relationships are. meaning, marriages should mean any exclusive, permanent monogamous coupling for a pair, be they mf, ff, or mm. common law would be the same as above, only occuring after a certain time period (7yrs, i believe is the norm). so on and so forth.
really, there's no reason to discriminate, there's no reason to worry. people are people, and they ought to live their lives as they see fit, so long as they don't infringe upon others' right to live as they see fit.
let gay marriage exist. it's not hurting anyone else, is it?
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Originally posted by Starchild
It's a subtle irony based on what's going to happen during the honeymoon.
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That's f*cking laughable. I didn't know gays played "parts", rather that both have equality in enjoying a good dry porking
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MRT144
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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
time: 21:28
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we need trees
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:28
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trees for what? hugging?
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MRT144
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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
time: 21:28
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to kill their human overlords
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Whaleboy
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Please make all cheques payable to Whaleboy
Jan 2003
time: 05:28
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 Bods, you seem to be insecure about the "groups" you belong to being undermined by others who are acheiving equality with your group, which threatens your *cough* dominance!
If gay people were allowed to be married, this whole thing would be irrelevant. This civil ceremony, could be viewed as equivalent to a marriage, in the eyes of the state at least, thus it is merely equal rights!
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That can never be a solution to anything. The thought is despicable.
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You seem to be advocating lesser rights for gay people, Its not despicable, I think its egalitarian, logical, sensible, and a pretty cool idea. Love conquers all, why not have a marriage system so that the state can recognise that. Do you not like gay people? Do you disapprove of homosexual sex? If so, why?
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:28
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Originally posted by Spiffor
Is there such a thing as heterophobia in the gay community. I mean, are there some people who despise heteros, the same way there are some people in general (including a few on this forum) who despise gays ? Have you witnessed heterophobia, heard from it, or is it completely inexistant ? |
I've only seen it on a few very rare occasions, and it was usually a lesbian, and it was always someone who had experienced horrible abuse at the hands of others. While the abuse may not have been directly related to sexuality per se, it was something that triggered a huge antipathy towards the "heterosexual oppressors."
Considering that is very much a straight world, it would be a practical impossibility for a gay person to go around hating heterosexuals. While a heterosexual could reasonably claim to be totally unfamiliar with homosexuals (at least as far as they were aware), the same simply cannot be said for a gay person, who is at the very least going to be dealing with straight parents, employers, colleagues, teachers, etc.
My best friends are predominantly heterosexual, including my current roommates and my best friends from high school and college. In that light, I would have no objection to a Straight Pride parade, so long as the participants were limited to the loving, wonderful people like the above, and not the pernicious troglodytes like Boddingtons.
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Jon Miller
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Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
To be fair, he's a far closer fit to the symptoms of "being a painful little arsehole". |
when is he going to get broken in?
Jon Miller
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Pride Park,Derby
Jan 2002
time: 05:28
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Those who have said that Gay Marriage should be allowed have the best response here, it is shocking that in the 21st Century we are not allowing homosexual's to share the same rights as us.
It may seem nice the government is looking after homosexuals but they havent gone far enough, they need to allow a proper gay marriage and even help fund such occasions to help celebrate diversity, and encourage homosexuals still afraid to show thier sexuality to celebrate in the same manner as hetrosexuals.
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Ben Kenobi
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McGregornobi!
Oct 2002
time: 21:28
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Besides, I can argue that a double income no kids (DINK) marriage typical of gay relationships would be far more beneficial to society in terms of the economy than the rather costly choice of children.
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Well, honey, there's more to society than economics.
Even so, what do we do if everyone adopts the DINK model? That will cause some problems when everyone wants to retire on government pensions.
Society benefits from strong families, and from encouraging marriage.
Shi:
Government has a responsibility to regulate marriage, because government also taxes. Therefore, the government gets to decide who gets benefits and who does not from income redistribution within a household.
Common law relationships seem the best way to go, to sort out the tax issue, allow homosexuals to retain common-law relationships, while preserving traditional marriage.
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:28
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no. it's too much for my weak nerves.
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:28
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no. it's too much for my weak nerves.
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