18-03-2004 12:12									#331
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Had some time tonight after all. I wasn't completely sure what Kloreep's intended build queues were so I guessed a bit. Any changes anyone wants to make just say so.


Builds:
- Settler in Chow. Next build to be settler
- Horseman in Sweet and Sour. Rename to Kentucky Fried Horseman. Next build to be horseman.
- Schezuan builds worker. Rename to I need a name. Next build to be a catapult.
- Moo Shu builds worker. Rename to I need a name. Next build to be a worker.
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Settlers:
- New settler in Chow moves 4-8-4
- Eastern settler settles city. Name to be General's Chicken
- Western settler moves 3 (SE)

Workers:
- Cobbler mines tile
- Harvester roads tile
- Smith roads tile
- Gatherer moves 2-3 to grassland (chopping furs won’t help yet)
- Gardener moves 6-9 to forest tile
- Cropper moves 7-7-7 (I like Sharpe’s idea of adding a worker to Egg Roll…it can safely support 9 pop and if we get it to 15spt so much the better).
- Baker chops forest tile (will save a turn off the next horse…two with some MM).
- Farmer moves 9 and mines (won’t help much now, but will later on).
- Miller moves 2 to hill tile
- New worker from Schezuan moves 2-1-4
- New worker from Moo Shu moves 4-2 and mines (again, won’t help much now but will later).

Cities:
- Chow Mein: wheat, cattle, and 2 mined bonus grassland.
- Dim Sum: cattle, fur, mined bonus grassland, and irrigated plains
- MGGP: Remove citizen from wheat and put on plains tile NE of city. Also should be working the mined bonus grassland with the new pop point.
- Schezuan: after worker build should be working 2 cattle, wheat, and mined bonus grassland.
- Sweet and Sour: Move one of the NE plains workers to the south near Schezuan so Char Shu can work the plains tile.
- Char Shu: New citizen works plains tile that Sweet and Sour vacated.


Ideas:
- Chop Suey, Sweet and Sour and Wonton will be needing marketplaces soon if we want to begin taking advantage of the gold we will reap in republic. Right now they are of course our primary horse suppliers but we will need to make a decision soon when to take them off horse duty for infrastructure. Chop can build one in 10 turns, the others in 17.
- I recommend replacing Take-Out (who is currently in Moo-Shu) with another horse. Take out is elite and should be at the front with LL. Also as I mentioned to Zargon in chat we need a few more horses over that way if possible.
- My next recommendation is to take the two spearmen off of the incense colony. Move one to the hill NW to cover the area and the other can head to the west to be the garrison of the border city we’ll be building soon.

	18-03-2004 20:24									#332
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Talking with Rhoth, it was decided that we would send 2 of the next 4 horses to the Western front. Won't affect our Eastern defenses too much, and we could use some extra mobility to the west.

	20-03-2004 23:45									#333
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We have the 410 bc save !

Received world map and contact with Monkey

LL built another city allowing them to push their road east - they have also landed another settler in the west

City totals as of 410bc:

Tabemono - will be 20 at end of our turn and 21 next turn
LL - 22 (with another settler in sight and another settler built)
MAST - 10
Sunshine - 11
Monkey - 9 (with 2 ruins and 1 seemingly captured city by CoD)
CoD - 14
Python - 13

Last edited by Sharpe on 21-03-2004 at 00:42

	21-03-2004 00:52									#334
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410 Mil. Orders

Special Sauce SE-S-SE
Made Fresh fortifies
New Horse "Flying Food" W-NW-NW-NW-NW-NW
Sage S-SE-S
Butcher S-SE-SE
Garlic NE-E-NE
Spork fortifies
Rhoth fortifies
BigGut NE-NE-E
FB NE
Canteen SW-SW-S

DoD Requests:
-Iron hooked back ASAP
-A galley build at Chop Suey

-Looking at the map, Izzardia has a good shot at becoming a mega-powerhouse if they take out Monkey and settle their available lands...

	21-03-2004 00:55									#335
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re Izzardia becoming a mega-powerhouse WHEN they take out Monkey - yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing

Btw, I think Python and Izzardia traded maps with LL too - as we now see the road on the western dye whereas we didn't before.

Also Sunshine and MAST have barb camps to the south of them.

And we have an iron hooked up again - although I am guessing you mean another iron...

	21-03-2004 01:07									#336
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quote: Originally posted by Sharpe And we have an iron hooked up again

Yeah, what he said.

Sorry I can't be there to help guys. Way too busy at work so I'm at work today instead of home relaxing. If any MOI orders need to be changed go ahead and do it, but most of them should be fine. When I get home tonight I'll take a look at the save and post the orders for next turn.

	21-03-2004 20:51									#337
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Turn has been played. Rhoth, you should check the turn report because, much like Vondrack and myself, you seem to occassionally forget your directions

	25-03-2004 06:44									#338
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Some quick orders for 390 BC.

Settlers
-Southwestern settler settles, works the bonus grass NW-NW
-Western settler moves NW-W-SW

Workers
-Farmer road
-Miller road
-Plower SW
-Cropper ?. We could chop that plains forest for Dim Sum.
-Gardener road
-Saucier mine
-Fisherman E-S-SE to road the coast
-Tiller S-S-SW to road the coast
-Gatherer road
-New worker in Fortune Cookie to be named "?" and moved W-S to road

Cities
-Schezuan citizen on the wheat and the cattle S to plains
-MGGP citizen on the plains NE to the wheat
-Fortune Cookie citizen to the cattle

	25-03-2004 08:05									#339
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Mil Orders 390:

Special Sauce S-S-S
Sage NW-NW-N (keep a few units northways...)
Garlic fortifies
Big Eater E
BigGut SE-SE-SE
Flying Food NW-W-S-SW-S-SW
Butcher S-SE-S
New Horse W-W-W-W
FB W
Canteen N-N-E

	29-03-2004 11:56									#340
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370 BC

-Western settler SW-SW-S
-New settler in Dim Sum N-NW-NW to help settle the west?

-New worker in Pot Sticker to be named ? and sent S-SW to chop
-Planter NE-N-N (to road, preparing Egg Roll to work the two river forests at pop 9)
-Plower road
-Digger road
-Harvester S to road
-Fisherman road
-Tiller road
-Bait road
-New worker in Port Sushi to be named "?" and moved N-NE to road toward the third city site

-Dim Sum citizen on the mined furs to the bonus SW
-Chow Mein citizen on the forest to the furs
-Fortune cookie citizen to the grass NW
-Schezuan WF to the cattle N and S, the forest SW, the bonus S-SW, and the plains W
-Set Pot Sticker to courthouse
-Set General Tso's to walls
-Fried Rice to stay as is. It will only take 10 more turns to grow to size 4, and within that time Digger can set up two mines so Fried Rice can get to 4 spt.

-Turn slider to 100% tax to help us save for upgrades?

	31-03-2004 10:50									#341
	350bc MOI Turn Orders Tired of ads?

Kloreep asked me to start taking over some of the MOI duties for awhile. I can do so for the time being, though I would prefer not to do it for too long. I'm already the MOI or deputy MOI in three other democracy games.


Settlers
- Settler NW of Moo-Shu moves 1-2-2
- Settler E of WonTon moves 4-1-1

Workers
- Somolier moves 2-1 to iron (to hook up for the trade to MAST)
- Planter roads
- Diver roads
- Harvester roads
- Cobbler roads
- New worker in Kung Pao is named I need a name and moves 1 to hook up 3rd iron (just in case we're trading one of them and LL cuts the other with a war declaration)
- Smith moves 6
- Gatherer moves 1

Cities
- WonTon builds horseman. Start marketplace.
- Kung Pao should grow and produce a worker. Start horseman (for now)
- Port Sushi build changed to walls.
- Fortune Cookie build changed to catapult.
- Teriyaki Pork build changed to catapult
- MGGP citizen removed from wheat and placed on plains NE
- Schezuan citizen removed from plains W and placed on wheat.
- New Dim Sum citizen on mined grassland N
- New Egg Roll citizen on forest N-NW (hopefully will give 15spt)


Diplomacy:

GIFT MAPS TO: Monkey, Sunshine, MAST.

GIFT CONTACT WITH COD AND PYTON TO: Sunshine, MAST

Last edited by Rhothaerill on 07-04-2004 at 00:09

	31-03-2004 11:13									#342
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Sinze Zargon is away.

- Old Bread moves 2-1-1
- Big Gut moves 3-3-3 (and will fortify next turn)
- Kebob moves 3-3-2
- Knife fortifies
- Take-Out moves 3-3-3-3-3-6
- Gourmand moves 6
- Big Eater moves 8 (barb hunting...but I'd like to move him back to the mountain when they're found).
- Flying Food moves 2
- Fat Bastard moves 7
- Shrimp Boat moves 7-7-7 (we'll need to end a turn in LL land the turn after...probably should tell them that so they don't get huffy)
- Canteen moves 8-8-9
- Tarragon activates in Sweet & Sour and moves 2-2-fortify
- Eat N Run and Garlic both activate in Schezuan and move 4-1-fortify

The tile E of MGGP is another great SOD stack as it can reach four cities in a turn if necessary as well as S&S which has a barracks for upgrade.

And the upgrade moves:
- Upgrade Spoon, Thyme, Vinegar and Pepper in Kung Pao
- Activate Spearmint in Fortune Cookie and move 4-4-2
- Activate Teaspoon in Hot & Sour and move 8-9-9

I don't want to have too many units sitting in Kung Pao at any one moment so just the four this turn, then to be replaced by some from the SOD next turn.

	01-04-2004 01:50									#343
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill Kloreep asked me to start taking over some of the MOI duties for awhile. I can do so for the time being, though I would prefer not to do it for too long. I'm already the MOI or deputy MOI in three other democracy games.

Thanks for doing this turn.

Anyone else interested? I'm willing to help with some of the MM, but I'm getting a little fuzzed on the big picture and would like a break from being the top MoI person.

quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill - New Egg Roll citizen on forest N-NW (hopefully will give 15spt)

Are you thinking we'll join a worker to Egg Roll? If so, this would be good for faster production. If not, I think we should keep it at 2fpt so it can get to size 9 quicker.

	01-04-2004 01:59									#344
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep Are you thinking we'll join a worker to Egg Roll? If so, this would be good for faster production. If not, I think we should keep it at 2fpt so it can get to size 9 quicker.

Yes I was. After the revolution so we wouldn't lose pop during anarchy....of course that assumes we start the revolution soon.

	01-04-2004 07:55									#345
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If we have not, we need to gift WM to: SS, MAST, and Monkey.

Let me have it as a little negotiating piece with LL for now.

	03-04-2004 06:42									#346
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I'm going to be gone tomorrow and the day after (Saturday/Sunday), so if the turn comes in, don't wait for me.

	07-04-2004 08:02									#347
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Edit: Use Rhoth's post instead

Last edited by Kloreep on 07-04-2004 at 08:29

	07-04-2004 08:11									#348
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Settlers
- Settler near Teriyaki Pork moves 2-2
- Settler near WonTon moves 1-2-1
- New settler from Chop Suey moves 2-2-3

Workers
- Smith roads
- Gatherer moves 4
- Saucier roads
- New worker in Kung Pao named I need a name and moves 1
- Bait moves 8 and irrigates
- Tiller moves 7 and irrigates
- Fisherman mines
- Gardener moves 9-9
- Digger mines
- Plower mines
- Farmer moves 6-6 and mines
- Somolier roads
- Miller moves 2
- Sushi Chef moves 7 and mines

Cities
- Chow Mein grows to size 6 and produces settler, dropping to size 4. Start setter
- Kung Pao produces worker, dropping to size 4. Start courthouse (for now).
- MGGP produces temple. Start marketplace (for now).
- Remove Dim Sum citizen from fur and place on forest.
- New Chow Mein WF to be cattle, wheat and 2 mined grasslands
- Egg roll citizen on forest moves to fur
- Schezuan citizen on wheat moves to plains west
- New MGGP citizen to wheat


Military
- Orders pending

FAM
- Send Furs and Spices to MAST accepted, they will return with 9 GPT accepted.
- Send Feudalism to MAST accepted.

Last edited by Rhothaerill on 07-04-2004 at 22:46

	07-04-2004 09:17									#349
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D'oh... sorry I missed the mil. orders last turn. Still getting things in order after my trip I'll be good to go this turn.

	07-04-2004 09:50									#350
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quote: Originally posted by ZargonX D'oh... sorry I missed the mil. orders last turn. Still getting things in order after my trip I'll be good to go this turn.

NP, if you look up, you'll see Rhoth did them since you were away.

	14-04-2004 03:48									#351
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330 Mil Orders

OBDU S and fortify
Pezpult SE-SE
UPS SE-S-S-S-S and fortify
Kebob S-S-S
BigGut N-NW and upgrade?
Spearmint SW and upgrade
Thyme and Pepper SE-SE-SE
Spoon S-SW-SW
Vinegar fortify
Teaspoon N and upgrade
Maitre D' fortify
Gourmand E
Big Eater NE
Flying Food S-SW to attack
Take Out S-S-SW-SW-S and fortify
Shrimp Boat fortify
Fat Bastard N
Floating Canteen N-N-N (now that we have world maps, shouldn't we bring it home?)

	14-04-2004 04:10									#352
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Hey Zargon, can you edit your orders into my post above please. I'm trying to get all the MOI, military, and FAM orders into one post so we don't have any more mistakes, etc. Thanks.

	14-04-2004 04:51									#353
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A Legion , warrior and SETTLER have appeared SE of Maitre d in that "L" river region that Unortho wanted to settle next.

So much for LL's promise NOT to settle west of Gisele eh?

As far as I am concerned, we should prepare for war with LL soon as I view this as a violation of our NAP by breaking their promise to not move any further west.

	14-04-2004 07:03									#354
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Let's fire off a message to them reminding them off their agreement.

	16-04-2004 05:21									#355
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Settlers
- Settler north of MGGP moves 2-2-2
- Settler near Benihana moves 2
- Settler near Moo-Shu moves 2-2-2

Workers
- Gardener roads
- Harvester irrigates
- Cobbler moves 1-1 and irrigates
- Bait moves 2 and irrigates
- Tiller moves 2 and irrigates
- Gatherer roads
- Worker near Kung Pao needs name (I guess) and roads
- Baker roads
- Miller roads

Cities
- Sweet and Sour finishes horseman, Start marketplace
- Kung Pao citizens on forest and regular grass moved to both newly irrigated plains
- General Tso's Chicken citizen to roaded grass (doesn't matter much)
- Sweet and Sour citizen on plains NW of city moved to plains SE of city (move the new Schezuan citizen if it allocates there)
- New Char Shu citizen on plains SW-SW of city (just vacated by S&S)
- New Schezuan citizen on plains SW-W of city

Military
- Orders pending

FAM
- Orders Pending


The next catapult out of Schezuan I want to name "Dead Cattle Shooter"

	21-04-2004 02:45									#356
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Settlers
- Settler near Kung Pao moves 2-1-2
- Settler southwest of Benihana moves 1
- Settler west of Benihana moves 6-2

Both of the last two settler moves are contingent upon my plan for having two cities on the coast with a killing field between them. Since no one has commented yet then I'll assume it's approved.

Workers
- Smith moves 2
- Cobbler moves 8-8-8
- Harvester moves 8-8-8
- Saucier moves 7-7-8
- Bait moves 8-8-9
- Tiller moves 9-6
- Planter moves 3-2 and joins Egg Roll

Cities
- Chow Mein grows to size 5. Citizens to cattle, wheat, 2 bonus grass, and furs (take from Egg Roll)
- Dim Sum grows to size 4. Citizens to cattle, bonus grass and 2 irrigated plains
- Schezuan builds a catapult (named "Dead Cattle Shooter"). Start another catapult.
- Hot and Sour Soup grows to size 3 and builds wall. Start catapult. Citizens to 2 grasslands and a river forest.
- Pot Sticker grows to size 3. Citizens to bonus grass, mined grass, and silk grass
- Teriyaki Pork grows to size 2. Citizens to bonus grass and regular grass
- Fortune Cookie grows to size 2. Citizens to mined grassland and irrigated plains
- Egg Roll citizen from furs to roaded tundra forest. New citizen to mined grassland (for 15spt and 1fpt growth...I want it to grow a little bit more before we switch to republic, just in case).
- MGGP citizen on wheat to mined grassland.
- Schezuan citizen on plains to the west of city moved to the wheat vacated by MGGP.

Military
- New catapult (Dead Cattle Shooter) S-S-SW
-Pezpault SW-S and fortify
-Teaspoon NE-NE-N
-Spork upgrade
-Soux Chef NE-N and fortify
-Oregan NE-N and fortify
-Kebob NE-N and fortify
-Spearmint fortify
-Gourmand NW
-Big Eater N
-Flying Food E
-Canteen W-W-NW
-FB N
-Anis, Cumin, Tumeric, Nutmeg to Kung Pao for upgrades
-Maitre' D, though I am tempted to say attack, N


FAM
- Orders Pending

Last edited by Rhothaerill on 23-04-2004 at 20:51

	22-04-2004 23:10									#357
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I will be attending a work conference in Toronto (hurrah :rolleyes from Friday until Tuseday night. I'm supposed to have high-speed internet access in my hotel room, so I should be in contact and get my saves no problem. However, if I vanish from the internet, well: Blame Canada.

	23-04-2004 00:18									#358
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quote: Originally posted by ZargonX I will be attending a work conference in Toronto (hurrah :rolleyes from Friday until Tuseday night. I'm supposed to have high-speed internet access in my hotel room, so I should be in contact and get my saves no problem. However, if I vanish from the internet, well: Blame Canada.

* Rhothaerill can't wait to hear Sharpe's reaction.

Okay, have fun. Will you post the military orders before you leave?

	23-04-2004 02:16									#359
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quote: Will you post the military orders before you leave?

Hah! You wish! Those suckers are top secret: my eyes only

	23-04-2004 03:05									#360
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The save is now with us, but my relatives are about to come over for dinner, which I still have to cook I will have mil orders up by 11:30 EST, if you can wait that long.