22-02-2004 00:49									#301
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Turn uploaded here Zargon:

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...mono_0570BC.SAV

An issue I see immediately (no moves other than galley E): Do we set up an embassy with Python? This would 1) reveal their capitol and 2) prevent them from doing the same to us.

Also, do we attack the barb camp with BigGut? He could then be counter-attacked by up to 4 horsemen, but he would be on a mountain, and we would stop further spawning.

	22-02-2004 02:12									#302
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Definately have BigGut attack. Taking out the camp should be top priority. I would also go for an embassy with Python, mostly to stop them from seeing our capital.

	22-02-2004 11:27									#303
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550 BC:
Improvements Completed:
-Chop Suey finishes Harbor. Set build to Horse.

Settler:
-Settler NW-W-S, heading to the west to wait for the barbs to go away

Workers:
-Farmer is basically just idling right now... he might as well mine where he is. move him SE-SE and mine
-Ditto the idling on Baker. Have him mine too, I guess. Move him E-N-NE
-Miller road
-Digger E
-Plower road
-New worker in Schezuan to be named "?" and moved S-SW to road

Cities:
-Chop Suey WF to the bonuses SE, S-SE, and W (it will have to kick Buffet off that one) and the grasses NW and N (yes, N is unimproved for now). Should be at 6 spt
-The Buffet citizen on a forest and the citizen kicked off by Chop Suey move to the grasses E and NE-NE. Should be at 10 spt.
-Wonton citizen on the grass E to the grass SW-SW
-Egg Roll citizen on the bonus SE-SE to the grass SW-W
-Chow Mein citizen on the bonus E to the bonus N
-Dim Sum citizen on the furs forest to the plains SE
-MGGP citizen on the wheat to the plains S
-Schezuan citizen on the cattle N to the plains NW-NW (kicking a S&S citizen off)
-Sweet & Sour citizen on the plain NE to the bonus NW-N. The citizen kicked off by Schez and the citizen on the plains N to the cattle and the wheat. Gentlemen, prepare to warp to size 6...
-Poprush the barracks in Kung Pao.

Last edited by Kloreep on 26-02-2004 at 03:04

	25-02-2004 16:02									#304
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We have the 550bc save!

Barb report - NO LOSSES!

Pointy the Spear lost 1 HP but was promoted to Elite (now 4/5)
Rhoth the Spear lost 1 HP (now 3/4)
Butcher the Sword remains at 4/4
Big Gut now at 2/5 after its Elite promotion

We have a single barb horse NW of our stack
7 barb horses W of our stack
and a single barb horse W-SW of our stack (9 total barbs left)

Suggest we send one of our horses to attack the single barb horse NW of the stack and send Tangy the Spear to reinforce the stack.

LL legion and settler moved N so are now located S-SE-SE-SE of Fortune Cookie.

	25-02-2004 20:05									#305
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Yaaar! Good ol' predictable PTW barbs That puts us in good shape out there, and we should have this whole thing resolved in a turn or two, letting us refocus on more important matters. I'll have Mil. orders up after I get home from work today.

	25-02-2004 21:20									#306
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Edit to my above post - silly me - forgot that a horsemen victory (while nearly assured against a barb horse) would lead to our horse going onto the hill beside that stack of 7 barbs - probably leading to the loss of our horse - sorry bad idea

	26-02-2004 12:50									#307
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Left the western military situation as-is for now last turn (550 BC; I of course forted BigGut and moved Take Out beside PS).

I moved both Big Eater and Gourmand N off the gold mountain. If one of them is supposed to stay as a look out and move back next turn, I suggest Big Eater instead of Gourmand; Gourmand, as a vet, is a better upgrade candidate.

	27-02-2004 08:27									#308
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530 BC:

Improvements
-Kung Pao finishes barracks; set build to worker

Settler
-Settler SW-S-SW to Wonton to wait out the barbs

Workers
-Baker mine
-Gardener NW
-Digger mine road. (I just realized this tile will not be worked till an aqueduct in Chop Suey; until CS can grow past size 6, the citizen working this tile and the yet-to-come sixth citizen will be working forests to get Chop Suey to 10 spt.)
-Cropper road
-Harvester irrigate
-Cobbler road

Cities
-Schezuan citizen on the forest to the plains N-NW
-Sweet & Sour citizen on the bonus grass to the plains NE. It will look like this delays the horse, but growth will make the horse complete turn after this, 510 BC
-Chow Mein citizen on the forest to the bonus E
-Dim Sum citizen on the forest to the plains NE
-The Wonton citizen on the bonus NE-NE (NW-W of Egg Roll) switches tiles with the Egg Roll citizen on the grass W-SW (E of Wonton). It will look like Wonton is down to 4 spt, but the mine being completed will take it back to 5.

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	28-02-2004 02:44									#309
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Turn is with us. Butcher and Pointy are elite at 3/5, Rhothaerill is still vet and is at 3/4. There's a stack of 2 horses still W of them, and 1 horse each on the tiles W, SW, and S of the 2-horse stack. They seem to be retreating.

I suggest we move the three horses in Wonton to the defended hill, and move the eastern stack of three horses back to Kung Pao.

	28-02-2004 02:53									#310
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Some other Notes:
-Our military is now weak compared to Python, and they are in Anarchy.
-I moved the eastern galley SW-S-S. No one else around, but there is some uninhabited land:

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=20487_galley.530.JPG

Also, we now have 5 vet warriors either in Kung Pao or ready to head there, plus 2 more that are currently occupied with MP but won't be under Republic. We can also recall Waiter up north and Gourmand in the southwest for 2 more upgrades to vet swords. (Waiter is elite though, so we may want to keep him in his warrior form and try for a GL?) How many more warriors do we want?

	28-02-2004 03:20									#311
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Mil Orders 530:

New WonTon warrior "Paprika" E-SE-E
Waiter S
New Buffet warrior "Vinegar" S-SW-S
Tumeric S-S-S
Big Eater S
Gourmand N
Pointy and Rhoth fortify
Take Out SE-S-E-S
ShrimpBoat SE and fortify
FB NE (we need to get permisison from someone to bring them home)
Galley SW-S-S
Eastern Horse Stack back to Kung Pow
Western Horse Stack to the fortified hill

	28-02-2004 04:17									#312
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510 BC:

Settlers:
-Settler in Moo-Shu ?
-New settler in Dim Sum NE-N-W to the west?

Workers:
-Gardener road
-Plower NW-NW
-Smith SW to road
-Sushi Chef N

Cities:
-Chow citizen on the bonus NE-E to the lake
-Char Shu citizens to the bonus NW and the plains SW
-Sweet & Sour citizens to the mine SW, the forest W, and the plains SW-SW, NW, NE, and E.
-MGGP citizen on the plains S to the wheat
-Schezuan citizen on the plains NW-NW to the cattle N

	01-03-2004 05:31									#313
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510 is here. Some notes (and a completed move):
-Izzardia founded a city near where our galley is. Contact was made by moving the eastern galley S and contacting the warrior in the city. They do not have Polytheism or Construction. They do have Rep, and they have contact with LL.
-We are once again militarily average to Python, so their military isn't that far ahead of ours. Also, they are still in anarchy.
-The F7 screen shows Sunshine building The Colossus in Funky Town (the one by the cow). Likely, it'll be completed next turn.

	02-03-2004 07:39									#314
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Settlers
-Western settler founds "?" on site D. Put the citizen on a 2-food tile and set build to a worker.
-Settler near Wonton moves NW-W-SW towards site E?
-New settler in Chow Mein also heads W-N-W??? (Chokepoint site?)

Workers
-Farmer SW-W-SW, to road the second spice in for possible trade
-Miller SW-SW-S
-Plower mine
-Digger W-N (Fried Rice will need to be connected to the road network to have low enough corruption for 3 spt)
-Planter mine
-Cropper NW
-Harvester S-S
-Cobbler N (roading the coast)
-Smith road
-New worker in Hot & Sour Soup to be named "Soup Nazi" (I'm running out of professions here, and Seinfeld came to mind) and sent N

Cities
-If the new MGGP citizen is on a forest, move it to the plains S
-Hot & Sour Soup finishes a worker; set build to walls.

Last edited by Kloreep on 02-03-2004 at 08:03

	05-03-2004 04:02									#315
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490 Mil Orders:

Catapult "Salad Shooter" SW-SW-S
Warrior "Nutmeg" E-SE-E
Waiter fortifies
New Buffet warrior "Oregano" S-SW-S
Pepper S-SE-S
Thyme S-S-S
Vinegar S-S-S
Gourmand attack W
BigEater depends on what happens to Gourmand
Rhoth S
Butcher E
Take Out E-NE
Big Gut E
Made Fresh attack S-S
Fast Food E-E
Thirty-Minute depends on Made Fresh
Galley SW-S-SE
FB N(???) did we get permission from MAST as well?

Notes: LL has a worker working on the road to connect their distant cities back to the core along the coast. Connecting that will give them horses... do we want that
-Sunshine completed the Collosus

	05-03-2004 05:28									#316
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We should be sending the new Chow settler to the south - especially as we now see the returning LL galley as well - so we should also send units to KungPao 3-3-3 and 3-3-6 so that they won't settle there as they can get any settler on that galley to those locations before we can get ours there...

Also CoD has founded an embassy with us - means that they can see Buffet's internal workings and the location of EggRoll, Chow and perhaps a sliver of our coastline (plus the fact that we have two cities nearby - Chop Suey and our catapult city) Their capital is fairly close to the their border with Python, so I wonder what is up there...

	07-03-2004 09:49									#317
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470 BC:

Settlers:
-Western settler SW-SW-S, heading to Site E
-Eastern settler S-S-S, heading to build a city to the southeast of Kung Pao (where exactly?)

Workers:
-Farmer roads
-Miller SW-S-S
-Baker road
-Gardener irrigate
-Digger chop (we can finish the road after this just in time to bring corruption down for the next cat, and this will speed the current one up)
-Cropper road
-Fisherman road
-Harvester mine
-New worker from Schezuan to be named "Tiller" and moved SW

Cities:
-New Dim Sum citizen to the forest if it isn't on it already
-MGGP citizen on the wheat to the plans NE
-Schezuan citizen on the plans NW to the wheat. Keep on another worker

	08-03-2004 02:54									#318
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470 Mil Orders:

Salad Shooter S-S-SW
Take Out E and fortify
Butcher N-E-NE
Made Fresh E-N-E-NE-N-NE
Fast Food fortifies
Rhoth S
Thirty Minute N-N
Big Gut SE
Tangy fortifies
New Warrior "Anis" S-SE-S
Nutmeg S-SE-SE
Oregano S-SE-S
Pepper S-S-S
Thyme SW-S-S
Vinegar SW and fortify
Soux Chef SE
Papa John dependant on what SC sees
Maitre d' E
Big Eater N
Gourmand E
FB N (according to SS agreement)
Canteen SE-S-S

	08-03-2004 04:54									#319
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Completed moves:
-Sunshine offers their WM unaccepted; not sure what that's about, and we're not about to give out our galley's mappings. ESC key
-CoD offers Rep unaccepted. ESC key again, since MAST should have it on the way
-MAST sends Rep back accepted in exchange for our Lit+Curr on table. Deal accepted and screen exited

-Floating Canteen S-S-S

	08-03-2004 09:20									#320
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450 BC:

-Western settler SW-S-S to site E
-Eastern settler ?

-Miller road
-Tiller road
-Sushi Chef S-W-NW

-Buffet switch to Market
-New Chow Mein citizen should be on the mined furs; if on the forest instead, move it there
-Chop Suey WF to the bonuses W, SE, and S-SE, the grass NW, and the forests N-NW and W-NW. Should be at 10 spt
-Wonton WF to the bonuses S, S-SW, W-SW, the grass NE, and the forests SW and NW-NW. Build to a horse.
-Poprush the Port Sashimi harbor

	12-03-2004 03:10									#321
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450 Mil Orders:

Special Sauce N-E-E
Salad Shooter fortifies
Pepper and Thyme SW and fortify
Oregano S-S-S
Nutmeg S-SE-S
Anis S-S-S
New warrior "Garlic" S-SE-S
New warrior "Sage" E-SE-E
Made Fresh N-E-SE-E-S-SE
Butcher N-NE-N
BigGut S
Rhoth fortifies
30-Minute E-NE
New horseman "Eat n' Run" S-S-S-S
Soux Chef, Papa John, Matire 'D all fortify
Big Eater and Gourmand NE
Fat Bastard NE
Canteen SW-S-S

And you know... we could easily declare war on LL based on our theme... they did take the Spices near us

	12-03-2004 03:10									#322
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450 Mil Orders:

Special Sauce N-E-E
Salad Shooter fortifies
Pepper and Thyme SW and fortify
Oregano S-S-S
Nutmeg S-SE-S
Anis S-S-S
New warrior "Garlic" S-SE-S
New warrior "Sage" E-SE-E
Made Fresh N-E-SE-E-S-SE
Butcher N-NE-N
BigGut S
Rhoth fortifies
30-Minute E-NE
New horseman "Eat n' Run" S-S-S-S
Soux Chef, Papa John, Matire 'D all fortify
Big Eater and Gourmand NE
Fat Bastard NE
Canteen SW-S-S

And you know... we could easily declare war on LL based on our theme... they did take the Spices near us

	12-03-2004 03:10									#323
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450 Mil Orders:

Special Sauce N-E-E
Salad Shooter fortifies
Pepper and Thyme SW and fortify
Oregano S-S-S
Nutmeg S-SE-S
Anis S-S-S
New warrior "Garlic" S-SE-S
New warrior "Sage" E-SE-E
Made Fresh N-E-SE-E-S-SE
Butcher N-NE-N
BigGut S
Rhoth fortifies
30-Minute E-NE
New horseman "Eat n' Run" S-S-S-S
Soux Chef, Papa John, Matire 'D all fortify
Big Eater and Gourmand NE
Fat Bastard NE
Canteen SW-S-S

And you know... we could easily declare war on LL based on our theme... they did take the Spices near us

	12-03-2004 03:14									#324
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Gotta love when 'poly starts chugging and you just keep hitting the submit button

	12-03-2004 03:31									#325
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I thought you just wanted everyone to make sure they got the orders correct.

	12-03-2004 09:48									#326
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430 BC:
Improvements:
-Egg Roll completes market; set build to palace for a Leo's prebuild?
-Port Sashimi completes harbor; set build to temple

Settlers:
-Western settler SE to Site E
-Eastern settler SE

Workers:
-Baker W
-Gardener NE
-Plower road
-Planter W and mine
-Fisherman irrigate
-Smith NE-E to connect the upcoming city

Cities:
-Chow Mein citizen on the furs to the lake
-Dim Sum citizen on the forest to the furs
-Schezuan citizen on the wheat to the plains W
-MGGP citizen on the plains NE to the wheat

	18-03-2004 07:28									#327
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I would consider building a library at EggRoll and then adding a worker to its population - by adding the worker we would still complete any wonder around the same time as we would by starting a wonder now. Plus we would get 4-5 more beakers per turn at 40-50% science rate in Republic - that would add up to a lot of beakers over the course of building a wonder (i.e. 30 turns).

	18-03-2004 07:45									#328
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We have the 430 bc turn

Nothing much to report - the LL settler has disappeared but no city has been founded - so either they are moving towards us or perhaps moving toward MAST to found a city.

Also more bad news re LL - they either built 2 more settlers this turn or did some 2-poprushes (which do you think it is? ) - they are really loading up on settlers - which means that they are trying to be very aggressive in their settlement - makes sense given their reluctance to talk border issues it seems

	18-03-2004 10:11									#329
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More news...Latin Lover is in anarchy.

	18-03-2004 10:59									#330
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Okay since Klo won't be around for a few more days I have offered to do the settler/worker/work force orders for next turn. I'll work on it tomorrow as it's getting late tonight.