15-09-2003 03:38									#91
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Sorry, by the time I saw this I thought the turn had already been played.

I agree with Kloreep's path.

	15-09-2003 07:00									#92
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Agreed. BW is the way to go for the security of our future! Plus, it may lead to better pot-making technology.

	18-09-2003 21:55									#93
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I have received the save and am going to play it

	18-09-2003 22:00									#94
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Moves for this turn:

-F.B. fortifies in Chow Mein
-New warrior, "Gourmand," fortifies in Buffet
-Fatty fortifies to regain health.
-Big Eater south

	19-09-2003 02:59									#95
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Save please?

	19-09-2003 03:15									#96
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Oh, you'd like that, wouldn't you?




2590 BC save

	19-09-2003 08:47									#97
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My proposal for next turn:

-Big Eater S (Probably S again after that)

I assume Fatty goes NW after healing, exploring in that direciton while searching for a promotion. We're going to have a warrior free for exploration in four turns (the warrior produced in Buffet in 2 turns needs to go to Chow Mein for MP); I think the only way for him to go is down the southeast coast, forming an unequal prong with Big Eater.

	19-09-2003 09:33									#98
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Yes, I would send Fatty back to the wild northlands, with BE continuing S. The next warrior should definately head SE, to determine whether this is a peninsula or not...

	19-09-2003 09:34									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep My proposal for next turn: -Big Eater S (Probably S again after that) I assume Fatty goes NW after healing, exploring in that direciton while searching for a promotion. We're going to have a warrior free for exploration in four turns (the warrior produced in Buffet in 2 turns needs to go to Chow Mein for MP); I think the only way for him to go is down the southeast coast, forming an unequal prong with Big Eater.

Make it so...

A highfalutin' way of saying I agree. 'Course there isn't much else we can do with him.

	19-09-2003 23:11									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill Make it so...

Arr, matey, tis a beauty of an order you've given!

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	20-09-2003 01:16									#101
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Aaargh, so be it then.

	20-09-2003 01:44									#102
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Avast ye mateys. Swab that deck afore I keelhaul ya.



In other words "make it so". We can have the talk like Star Trek day another day. Of course only classic, TNG or DS9 phrases are acceptable since the latest two series certainly aren't very good.

	22-09-2003 09:04									#103
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quote: -Big Eater heads south. Another mountain...

Could we have the save so we can see this mountain?

	22-09-2003 11:07									#104
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Or rather...see what's around the mountain since a mountain by any other name is just the same. Okay, I don't have a clue what I just said.

	24-09-2003 09:55									#105
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I've gone through and edited the Turn Report thread, cleaning up the format a little bit, adding turn numbers, and adding three missing reports from early turns.

	26-09-2003 06:34									#106
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It would be nice if the gamesaves would be put in the Turn Reports thread on a regular basis (preferrably every turn) so that the non-turn players can download and see things for themselves...

Thanks

	26-09-2003 09:36									#107
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Yes, that's my fault. I'm quite slow about that I'll try to be more prompt

	27-09-2003 23:41									#108
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I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but shouldn't we road that Fur so we can go to pop three without a unit being necessary. That we we can explore more.
Aggie

	28-09-2003 00:37									#109
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I agree we should link up that Fur asap. Also send one warrior SE and one warrior west soon too.

I also wonder if we should alter our city layout plans. Still build the inner ring of less corrupt cities, but having found one civ south of us and knowing the existance of a third civ on the continent - we should be also try to grab more territory quickly.

We know that Sunshine will likely try to go for that fur north of the jungle (and that "Nile" river will be a big bonus for them too grrr) which would also block us off from that larger area to their NW - personally I want to keep Sunshine south of the jungle as much as possible -so I wonder if we should first colonize SE of us as much as possible to grab as much area there as we can.

As for MAST - I thought I had heard some noise some turns ago - must have been "Those Guys" banging their heads against a wall upon finding out that their neighbours was the nearly-impossible-to-attack-early Greeks of Sunshine (tsk tsk I guess MAST shouldn't have chosen Aztecs )...

Last edited by Sharpe on 28-09-2003 at 00:57

	30-09-2003 06:16									#110
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We have the save. I'll be hanging around in chat for a bit.

	30-09-2003 06:19									#111
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Ok in chat where?

Kloreep and I were in the Tabemono chat room for over an hour waiting hehe

Last edited by Sharpe on 30-09-2003 at 07:11

	30-09-2003 08:31									#112
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I received the save this turn, here it is: http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Kl...emono2430BC.SAV

Chow Mein went into disorder. Because Buffet was changed to a settler, there is no warrior to cover MP this turn, so one city must pull a citizen out of the fields in favor of a specialist. I vote for the citizen 7 of Buffet; losing the shield won't hurt if we change Buffet to a spear build (which I vote for too! ), and making him a taxman means a net loss of only 2 food and 1 commerce, not all that bad. This way Chow Mein can stay on its +5 track, as the Buffet warrior can move to MP Chow Mein.

Edit: On second thought, make that the citizen 3-3 of Buffet. That way the 4th Chow Mein citizen can work that tile, netting 7 shields to make sure the granary gets built in just 2 turns.

As for other moves: Fatty W, Gourmand SE, Big Eater S

	30-09-2003 09:22									#113
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2390 BC suggestions:
-WF TBD by someone lese (Too tired to figure it out right now. But Buffet needs more shields for the spear, and Chow Mein should need less shields; should be a balance).
-Farmer S (then road; we need to get the furs hooked up)
-Fatty W (then N)
-Big Eater SW (skirt Sunshine's border)
-Gourmand S (then E)

	04-10-2003 04:49									#114
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We have the save. I think mysticism is our only real tech path option right now. We've probably fallen behind in the tech race due to the 3 other civs already having contact. I think we need to get some new cities founded ASAP and probably start ramping up Food Reclamation Forces (TM)...

	04-10-2003 07:26									#115
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Suggested WF: Buffet citizen on wheat moves to bonus grass 3-3 of city (Chow Mein must give it up first). Just enough shields to complete spear. Third citizen remains a tax collector for this turn, but can work a tile once again next turn with the completion of the spear for MP.
Chow Mein works furs, wheat, bonus grass 6, and cattle. Edit: NM, the extra commerce is lost, so better to work the bonus grass 8 of Chow. This will produce one more food, giving us flexibility to drop to 3fpt sometime during the rest of the growth cycle. (Alternatives I considered to this either don't produce enough shields to finish the granary, or produce less than 3 surplus food and thus don't get us back on track for +5 fpt 4-turn growth in Chow Mein)

Agreed on switching to Myst.

Last edited by Kloreep on 04-10-2003 at 08:10

	04-10-2003 20:08									#116
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Kloreep or Aggie: I'm sort of running out the door right now, and I won't be back until later tonight. Could one of you please please play the save and send it one :heart: Thanks!

	05-10-2003 00:45									#117
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Plans for 2350:
-Buffet builds another spear? Taxman works bonus grass 7 of city
-Chow Mein builds worker? (if we keep on +5 fpt, which I think we should, without building a worker to reduce pop, we'll run into unhappiness again, as we'll grow to pop 5 before the furs are connected. We're running behind on tile improvements anyway, so we could really use another worker)
-New spear in Buffet to be named "Pointy" and fortified
-Farmer roads
-Gourmand to move E?
-Fatty N
-Big Eater S

	05-10-2003 08:36									#118
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-Worker in Chow Mein: agreed. We definately need to get some more infrastructure in place.

	05-10-2003 09:10									#119
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I definitely agree. Workers are the soul of a good nation. We need more

I need to take a look at the save, but I think your other orders sound good too.

	05-10-2003 19:49									#120
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I have another proposal - seeing as that proposal delays building settlers...

We can build a 4 turn settler in Chow Mein while we do a 2 turn worker at Buffet.

Use ChowMein 2/6/6-9 and a forest (not the furs) for 2 turns (8 shields/turn) and switch the forest to the grassland that Farmer is now roading for 2 turns (7 shields/turn).

At the end of the 4 turns, Chow Mein would be at 2 pop but with 17 food so will go back to size 3 the next turn.

Buffet could use 2/9 and the furs (no corruption with them unlike Chow Mein) to get the worker done in 2 turns. Then Buffet can build another spearman.

Buffet would be at 6 food and at size 2 after the 2 turns, but would have the wheat and should increase its food amount quickly.

Also,

I wonder if Gourmand should move SE as that might uncover more black area.

I also wonder if Big Eater should investigate that area west of that water - Sunshine may have not gotten to that area yet. (So go NW? to that jungle)

Last edited by Sharpe on 05-10-2003 at 19:56