02-07-2003 06:40									#61
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"You are the guy who plays grabass with his male friends in the sauna, right?"

OUCH!

Game, set, and match: Asher.

	02-07-2003 06:41									#62
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quote: I said that showing love to own family is about how far the man shows it.

nah... what about friends? or even war? I recently read an article about US soldiers who are dealing with emotional problems and post-traumatic stress after seeing some horrors in Iraq.

A real man isn't scared of social norms or mores in terms of expressing himself. I've cried before... I've cried in front of girlfriends before. Life is hard, and sometimes you need to share what's bothering you. To hold everything in, puff your chest out and act like a hardass isn't manly... it's being to chickensh1t to express yourself.

quote: Sava dude calls my homophobic

not quite... reread what I wrote.

	02-07-2003 06:43									#63
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Hey, it's not like I invented the game. And it's not like I enforce it and others are like 'Oh no here he goes again I really don't want this' and shaking their heads in disbelief. It is you who are homophobes! Hanging naked outdoors and having a beer (not necessary) while having a brake from sauna IS manly. I don't know what it is with nudity and you guys, but seems to me that you are the ones having a problem.......

	02-07-2003 06:43									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Asher, that's right, and this Sava dude calls my homophobic! Besides, it's not grabass, it's spanking. It hurts, thus it's manly.

...you are hilarious

	02-07-2003 06:44									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Hey, it's not like I invented the game. And it's not like I enforce it and others are like 'Oh no here he goes again I really don't want this' and shaking their heads in disbelief. It is you who are homophobes! Hanging naked outdoors and having a beer (not necessary) while having a brake from sauna IS manly. I don't know what it is with nudity and you guys, but seems to me that you are the ones having a problem.......

So Finns don't see anything vaguely homoerotic about a bunch of sweaty teenage boys spanking eachother vigorously in the sauna?

	02-07-2003 06:45									#66
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quote: Hanging naked outdoors and having a beer (not necessary) while having a brake from sauna IS manly. I don't know what it is with nudity and you guys, but seems to me that you are the ones having a problem.......

what are you talking about? I never said anything about your homosexual activities!

	02-07-2003 06:45									#67
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Who here thinks that Pekka is going to wake up one morning and realize he's gay? Raise your hand.

	02-07-2003 06:46									#68
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Not being a chauvinistic pig and realizing that I can be masculine and still have a heart.

	02-07-2003 06:47									#69
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Sava, yeah, but you don't have to be kissing them all the time to show your love, and it still doesn't mean you're stuck up and homophobe. You can show it with even more powerfull ways, showing solidarity when it counts and being there for buddies and defending them against whoever it is they need to be defended against (not necessarily a physical confrontation).

And in wars, there's a time and place to let it out. And that's called sauna. There you can talk all you want, because every man knows it stays there and you're not looked weaker if you let it out there.

	02-07-2003 06:47									#70
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Asher, No.

	02-07-2003 06:48									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Sava, yeah, but you don't have to be kissing them all the time to show your love, and it still doesn't mean you're stuck up and homophobe. You can show it with even more powerfull ways, showing solidarity when it counts and being there for buddies and defending them against whoever it is they need to be defended against (not necessarily a physical confrontation). And in wars, there's a time and place to let it out. And that's called sauna.

Yeah, whenever you're feeling down go to the sauna and smack some ass.

	02-07-2003 06:48									#72
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quote: Sava, yeah, but you don't have to be kissing them all the time to show your love

I said expressing... not kissing... you are misinterpretting my posts.

	02-07-2003 06:48									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Asher, No.

Is Finland's population decreasing, by any chance?

	02-07-2003 06:52									#74
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I'm not going to fall on your traps and start denying and shouting 'I'm nto gayy nooo noooo'.. and by doing that only adding fuel to the fire .

If hanging naked all the time counts as gay, then I must be one. But if being gay means that I have romantic and sexual feelings for the same gender, then I'm sorry but I'm not gay. You provide no proof, you provide NOTHING! You just want to make up gays.... criminals!!

	02-07-2003 06:56									#75
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quote: You provide no proof, you provide NOTHING! You just want to make up gays.... criminals!!

I'll warm up the helicopter

	02-07-2003 06:57									#76
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Asher is gay

	02-07-2003 06:57									#77
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Bend over and I'll prove it to you.

	02-07-2003 07:00									#78
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Hmm, I'll start using my advanced investigating methods.
Usually it's the one who farted who says 'who farted' and trying to blame it on someone else.. who brought up the gay card? Asher.. so my method is hereby proved to be working. With the same method I have come to conclusion that JohnT is also gay, trying to make me look like a gay person. Yes! The ultimate proof!
It's on you now JohnT, it's on youuu nowww.....

	02-07-2003 07:00									#79
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	02-07-2003 07:02									#80
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Ok, how about turning back to the subject?

About stealing.. real man wouldn't steal, right? But what about if a man steals for his family who is starving?
I think he would still be a real man.

	02-07-2003 07:02									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Hmm, I'll start using my advanced investigating methods. Usually it's the one who farted who says 'who farted' and trying to blame it on someone else.. who brought up the gay card? Asher.. so my method is hereby proved to be working. With the same method I have come to conclusion that JohnT is also gay, trying to make me look like a gay person. Yes! The ultimate proof! It's on you now JohnT, it's on youuu nowww.....

Of course JohnT is gay, why do you think he's a good husband?

	02-07-2003 07:02									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Hmm, I'll start using my advanced investigating methods. Usually it's the one who farted who says 'who farted' and trying to blame it on someone else.. who brought up the gay card? Asher.. so my method is hereby proved to be working. With the same method I have come to conclusion that JohnT is also gay, trying to make me look like a gay person. Yes! The ultimate proof! It's on you now JohnT, it's on youuu nowww.....

	02-07-2003 07:03									#83
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Cute kid.

	02-07-2003 07:04									#84
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JohnT, so you adopted a kid.. good for you. I honestly think that's a nice thing to do.

	02-07-2003 07:04									#85
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Also, CAN YOU SEE THE DINOSAURUS? It's PURPLE! Purple is GAY COLOUR! Even more proof!

	02-07-2003 07:05									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka JohnT, so you adopted a kid.. good for you. I honestly think that's a nice thing to do.

	02-07-2003 07:05									#87
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She's already in training for grocery shopping! Atta boy, John.

	02-07-2003 07:06									#88
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JohnT, so you're posting pics about your kid. Congrats, she's pretty. How does that make you not gay?

	02-07-2003 07:06									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Also, CAN YOU SEE THE DINOSAURUS? It's PURPLE! Purple is GAY COLOUR! Even more proof!

Note the signature on the Barney. Sophie has the only James Marsters signed Barney in existence.

	02-07-2003 07:06									#90
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Yo....Buck!

What's Man-ly? Why - Synchronized Swimming!

Anyone who's seen/heard enough Royal Canadian Air Farce should get this one.