28-11-2003 08:17									#331
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quote: Originally posted by E_T It's Obvious, they are headed to Anarchy and the Galleys they likely have there

Uhhhh... why would they do that?

quote: We build New Catch were we are NOW.

E_T, I don't care right now about your city plan. My job as MOW is to end this war as quickly and with as few losses as possible. Taking a shot at destroying 5 units including HALF their current Pikes and even their Pike Army on flat land with our MIs takes precedence over your plans of where to place our cities.

	28-11-2003 08:42									#332
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Trip, how many units do we have left in the stack ? Is there any risk of incurring significant losses if we move into the Forest tile, and hence open to GCA Horse attack ?

My view is : we will be successful if we manage to stop the 4 Pikes and 1 MI from entering BoP. Let them stay at Dun is good - we basically split their defence into 2, we can attack them separately.

Killing them on open ground is an added bonus. But if their horse cuts off the Road, we will not be able to stop their Pikes going back to BoP. But GCA has made mistakes before ...... so we won't know if we don't try.

Another priority is to cut their Iron supply. That means we need to go for Dun sooner than later.

	28-11-2003 08:47									#333
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Funny thing is by abandoning Catchopolis, haven't they also cutoff their horse supply? So they can't build anymore horsemen?

That is unusual unless GWT is getting Chivalry very soon and plans to trade it to GCA - thus allowing them to upgrade to Elephants - and they didn't want to risk us getting the GL (and Chivalry) from it.

	28-11-2003 08:50									#334
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quote: Originally posted by rush Trip, how many units do we have left in the stack ? Is there any risk of incurring significant losses if we move into the Forest tile, and hence open to GCA Horse attack ?

Well, they have at least 1 Horse over in the vacinity of Server Fire, so that's at least 1 Horse that won't threaten our main stack. We also have 6 vet NMs to cover whatever we move to the forest. Plus this would leave their Horses open to counter-attack, which they've been very... unwilling to do.

quote: My view is : we will be successful if we manage to stop the 4 Pikes and 1 MI from entering BoP. Let them stay at Dun is good - we basically split their defence into 2, we can attack them separately. Killing them on open ground is an added bonus. But if their horse cuts off the Road, we will not be able to stop their Pikes going back to BoP. But GCA has made mistakes before ...... so we won't know if we don't try.

Well, we can move the Settler this turn and if there's either nothing to attack or they cut both roads we can retreat the Settler and build the city somewhere else.

quote: Another priority is to cut their Iron supply. That means we need to go for Dun sooner than later.

True, but if we take out BoP then all they'll have left is a 5 SPT Anarchy left to build units... In other words, it's the end of the road once we take out BoP.

	28-11-2003 09:55									#335
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quote: Originally posted by Trip True, but if we take out BoP then all they'll have left is a 5 SPT Anarchy left to build units... In other words, it's the end of the road once we take out BoP.

But we do not have the firepower to take out BoP now. It's better to wait for 14 turns (form your earlier poll) for the reinforcement to come.

Meanwhile, we can send some of our attacking units and go for Dun and Server Fire. The added incentive is - 1. once we captured them, we don' t have to worry about GCA forces coming from Dun and attacking us at the back. 2. we can start building some cities on the GCA land, and start planning for the Palace move.

It may not seem obvious in my post, but i think building the Fort City is a good idea, as long as we don't risk significantly losing our troops that move into the Forest this turn.

	28-11-2003 10:00									#336
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quote: Originally posted by rush But we do not have the firepower to take out BoP now. It's better to wait for 14 turns (form your earlier poll) for the reinforcement to come.

Their army is split in half now. There were some who wanted to attack Catchopolis as it was with their full army. Now all we'd have to contend with was BoP on flat land with half their army.

quote: Meanwhile, we can send some of our attacking units and go for Dun and Server Fire. The added incentive is - 1. once we captured them, we don' t have to worry about GCA forces coming from Dun and attacking us at the back. 2. we can start building some cities on the GCA land, and start planning for the Palace move.

Half their army (including their Pike Army) appears to be going for Anarchy, so it may end up being a tougher nut to crack than BoP was.

	28-11-2003 13:10									#337
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I've started a new thread on the subject of our future advance (to help more people see it and comment on the situation at hand).

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...threadid=102683