12-10-2003 13:26									#151
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Hell, I don't have anything against Lee Corso, it's his vow, not mine. I just want my DAWGS to win, and as far as Lee is concerned, well, when you gotta go, you gotta go.

	12-10-2003 18:34									#152
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What about that choke on Sorgi. that wasn't cool. hope that guy gets penalized somehow

	12-10-2003 19:42									#153
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There would be no weeping in Big Orange Country for Corso...maybe he will take Herbstreet with him. Both banished forever to a trailer park anywhere in the South by the football Gods (which we all know live somewhere in SEC Country). There northern mission to discredit Southern football in favor of the Big Ten Fakers makes them deserve the fate Corso promised.

	12-10-2003 20:35									#154
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Drake, on behalf of all Michigan fans, I'd just like to say...





Pffffftttttt.

	12-10-2003 20:38									#155
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As for BCS... here's the best-case scenario for we BCS haters.

1) Oklahoma and the Miami-Va Tech winner both lose a game. Very possible.

2) In the ensuing chaos of multiple one-loss teams, a Big 12 or SEC team that didn't even play in the conference championship somehow backs its way into the Sugar Bowl, like Nebraska a couple years ago.

3) Meanwhile, both Northern Illinois and TCU play out the string and finish as the only undefeated teams in Div I-A.



The very thought of this situation warms every part of my blackened, dead heart... Granted, not very likely, but possible nonetheless.

	12-10-2003 20:40									#156
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel What about that choke on Sorgi. that wasn't cool. hope that guy gets penalized somehow

I could not believe my eyes when I saw that.

Penalized? Hell. That ******* ought to be brought up on assault charges.

	12-10-2003 20:46									#157
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quote: Drake, on behalf of all Michigan fans, I'd just like to say... Pffffftttttt.

The Huskers still have a better record than the Wolverines.

With a lot less talent, I might add.

	12-10-2003 20:50									#158
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We'll see who has the better record come January. I'm fairly confident Michigan would be undefeated if they had played Nebraska's schedule to date.

	12-10-2003 20:55									#159
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quote: I'm fairly confident Michigan would be undefeated if they had played Nebraska's schedule to date.

I don't see why you would say this, besides an obvious pro-Michigan bias. Missouri is a hell of a lot better team than Oregon and is probably comparable to Iowa. Oklahoma State is no slouch either.

quote: We'll see who has the better record come January.

Yes we will.

	12-10-2003 21:16									#160
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Michigan

All Big Ten teams are overrated. Merely creations of the national media. Put anyone of them in the SEC and you would have a midlevel team.

Nebraska, on the other hand, traditionally pumps out outstanding linemen and controls lines of scrimmage. That is why they are in the hunt year after year. Fundamentals do count and Nebraska is among the best at that. Put them in the SEC and you would have a perennial contender.

Big Ten Football

edit:grammatical

	12-10-2003 21:24									#161
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quote: All Big Ten teams are overrated. Merely creations of the national media. Put anyone of them in the SEC and you would have a midlevel team.

I love SEC fans. They're the only fans in the country that are as knowledgable and passionate as Big 12 fans. I guess following good conferences does that to you...

	12-10-2003 21:33									#162
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten [I don't see why you would say this, besides an obvious pro-Michigan bias. Missouri is a hell of a lot better team than Oregon and is probably comparable to Iowa. Oklahoma State is no slouch either.

I say it because, apart from Missouri, Nebraska has played their big games at home. Iowa and Oregon were on the road, where, frankly, we're mediocre. Maybe Missouri would beat us, maybe not. I'd put my money on the Wolverines, though. (I also would have put my money on the Huskers, for what its worth.)

	12-10-2003 21:37									#163
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quote: I also would have put my money on the Huskers, for what its worth.

I wouldn't have. I was worried about Missouri before the season started and, while the resurgence of the Blackshirts lifted my spirits a bit, I still wouldn't have been willing to put money on the Huskers. Wouldn't do it for the upcoming K-State and Texas games either. The Huskers will lose at least one more, possibly two.

	12-10-2003 21:55									#164
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: All Big Ten teams are overrated. Merely creations of the national media. Put anyone of them in the SEC and you would have a midlevel team. I love SEC fans. They're the only fans in the country that are as knowledgable and passionate as Big 12 fans. I guess following good conferences does that to you...

It is a way of life here. The sports seasons are:

Football Season
Recruiting Season
Spring Practice (Including Spring game)
Summer workouts (informal, of course!)
Two-a-days
Football Season.

The Big Ten spends much of their time with that funny shaped ball(round) trying to throw it thru a hole. In Knoxville that is a girls game!

	12-10-2003 22:02									#165
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quote: It is a way of life here. The sports seasons are: Football Season Recruiting Season Spring Practice (Including Spring game) Summer workouts (informal, of course!) Two-a-days Football Season.

Stop. You're making me homesick.

	13-10-2003 09:48									#166
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A quick summary of the current state of affairs in the Big 12...

quote: What it means is Texas beat Kansas State which lost to Oklahoma State which lost to Nebraska which lost to Missouri which lost to Kansas which lost to Colorado which lost to Baylor. With games at Texas, Kansas and Colorado left, and K-State suddenly feeling new life, anything can happen. And probably will.

	14-10-2003 02:13									#167
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Meanwhile, there are seven ranked Big Ten teams, all with at least five wins. Needless to say, this is two more than any other conference.

So put a sock in all the "Big Ten sucks" stuff.

Anyway, six of those teams face off in three games this weekend... oughta be fun.

	14-10-2003 05:36									#168
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quote: Meanwhile, there are seven ranked Big Ten teams, all with at least five wins. Needless to say, this is two more than any other conference.

No ****. The Big Ten is always overrated, which is why most people hate them. There's no way in hell the Big Ten deserves to have the most teams in the Top 25; the SEC and Big 12 both have a better group of teams this year.

	14-10-2003 06:18									#169
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO Michigan All Big Ten teams are overrated. Merely creations of the national media. Put anyone of them in the SEC and you would have a midlevel team.

So if we put the worst Big Ten team in the SEC, it would be a midlevel team? That sounds about right.

quote: Originally posted by PLATO Nebraska, on the other hand, traditionally pumps out outstanding linemen and controls lines of scrimmage. That is why they are in the hunt year after year. Fundamentals do count and Nebraska is among the best at that. Put them in the SEC and you would have a perennial contender. Big Ten Football edit:grammatical

I wish they were in the SEC, we might see a few good games that way. One thing that both the Big Ten and the SEC have going for them is that the conferences are competitive. Not so the Big Twelve, which year in and year out puts out one of the dullest products in the country, despite having perennial contenders in Oklahoma and Nebraska.

	14-10-2003 07:31									#170
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quote: One thing that both the Big Ten and the SEC have going for them is that the conferences are competitive. Not so the Big Twelve, which year in and year out puts out one of the dullest products in the country, despite having perennial contenders in Oklahoma and Nebraska.

I'm usually in agreement with you, Sikander, but I can't support you on this one. The Big 12 is the wildest conference in college football right now, extremely competitive and a hell of a lot of fun to watch. The improvement of teams like Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Missouri and now even Kansas is making things interesting.

	14-10-2003 08:11									#171
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Not so the Big Twelve, which year in and year out puts out one of the dullest products in the country, despite having perennial contenders in Oklahoma and Nebraska.

Obviously you don't follow college football. The Big 12 is one of if not THE most competitive conference in college football. This year is definitely a fluke as they don't seem on par with their normal skill level.

Take the season OU won the national championship a few years ago. OU upset #3 Texas (both Big 12 members) the following week OU upset #2 Kansas State (both Big12 members) and the next week OU beat #1 Nebraska (once again both Big12 members)

Oh yeah, real boring conference. Its a shame none of the Big12 members other that OU or Nebraska ever make it to the Big 12 championship. Wonder what would happen if Texas ever won a national championship..........

oh wait, they have.

What is really looking interesting is this new ACC their building, I wouldn't mind ditching the BCS with a bowl game between the ACC and Big 12 champions.

Right now I'm thinking Huskers vs Sooners in the Big 12 championship, the Nebraska/K-State game is the clincher for the north. OU might lose to OSU or Texas Tech if they get too cocky or if White gets injured but I don't see either happening right now.

I just got back from the OU-Texas game (much partying afterwards ) so I am a little pumped up right now. I will probably be more rational towards the end of the week......

I'm hoping OU and Miami will be in the Sugar Bowl, but with college football you never can be absolutely sure. Could be V-Tech instead of Miami.

	14-10-2003 09:05									#172
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Bah, it's all about the Big Sky conference.

Montana State represent!!!

	14-10-2003 09:08									#173
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Mountain west is where it's at

	14-10-2003 12:44									#174
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quote: What is really looking interesting is this new ACC their building

The new ACC is going to be awesome. Should compete with the SEC and Big 12 in quality and drop the Big Ten down into fourth place amongst the major conferences.

	15-10-2003 05:01									#175
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quote: Take the season OU won the national championship a few years ago. OU upset #3 Texas (both Big 12 members) the following week OU upset #2 Kansas State (both Big12 members) and the next week OU beat #1 Nebraska (once again both Big12 members)

So wait, since the Big 12 has THREE great teams that shows how competitive it is? The Big 12 may indeed by competitive, but using this example to prove it is just silly.

And, of course, KState is ALWAYS overrated. They play patsies on their schedule, year in and year out, and put up a ton of points on 'em, making KState look better than it actually is.

	15-10-2003 05:09									#176
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Don't the SEC and Big 12 play a weak out of conference schedule?

	15-10-2003 05:11									#177
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Big 12 is nowhere near the SEC. What are you smoking drake?

	15-10-2003 05:23									#178
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TCO speaks the truth... the SEC is king if you look at up and down competitiveness.

And all this EAST COAST bias . The Pac-10 is very, very competitive as well.

Big 12 and Big 10 are good conferences but mostly top heavy. The ACC will join that list (top heavy super-conferences).

	15-10-2003 05:27									#179
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Right now I'm thinking Huskers vs Sooners in the Big 12 championship, the Nebraska/K-State game is the clincher for the north.

K-State? their season is over.

Neb. They can come back from that slap down this weekend, but Kstate is finished.

	15-10-2003 05:29									#180
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Did y'all see that vicious forearm a nebraska player planted into a Missouri fan after the win saturday? not rising anywhere near the level of a lawrence phillips, but...

See the video at foxnews.com, or watch sporscenter or something.