20-04-2004 22:21									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Well, this case or not, but one can do fun things with German, like making great long words, like, uh Spielprogrammerscompilersautorsfraushund .

If you do it correctly. What should this be by the way. I don't know a word like Programmer in German rather Programmierer. And I would expect that the programmer here programs or has programmed more than one game.

-Martin

	20-04-2004 22:49									#122
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Nice by me, makes it even longer . I have a 1989 Berlin Huebener DOS manual on my desk now, and I really like words like Geratesonderheitanderung and those .

	21-04-2004 12:23									#123
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Nice by me, makes it even longer . I have a 1989 Berlin Huebener DOS manual on my desk now, and I really like words like Geratesonderheitanderung and those .

Actually one thing I still like about the German language:

instead of creating new words for everything, we look at its 'function'. Like a watch: Uhr
If it is hanging on the wall: Wanduhr
If it is standing: Standuhr
If you have it in your pocket: Taschenuhr
On your finger: Fingeruhr
On your arm: Armbanduhr

If it is a radiocontrolled one: Funkuhr
So a radiocontrolled watch on the wall (And you say German is looong) : Wandfunkuhr

And so on..........so it is easy

Most German words you can break down like this, it only get's complicated for 'artifical' things, like art, medicin and similar. Strong influence from other languages.

Computer: Similar either German words or English or sometimes even a mixture of them, which can sound rather funny Even better I, I have seen and heard it being used:

Floppy disk: Bitte fuehren Sie die weiche Disk in das Laufwerk ein.........(This will be more of a joke for people understanding German, and sorry can't translate........)

	21-04-2004 18:49									#124
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quote: Floppy disk: Bitte fuehren Sie die weiche Disk in das Laufwerk ein.........(This will be more of a joke for people understanding German, and sorry can't translate........)

got it....


What you say is so true... the first German texts I read, I generally looked at word and tried to break them down, and notice either a similarity with some English word, or something. If you know some 500 German words, you can already easily understand many texts... Now, though, breaking up long words into their origins and understanding the meaning is becoming more of a habit.

	21-04-2004 19:05									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Solver got it.... What you say is so true... the first German texts I read, I generally looked at word and tried to break them down, and notice either a similarity with some English word, or something. If you know some 500 German words, you can already easily understand many texts... Now, though, breaking up long words into their origins and understanding the meaning is becoming more of a habit.

Took you quite long But it is a good one, or?

And this breaking up, I really love

	21-04-2004 20:59									#126
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quote: Took you quite long

Did it ?

	22-04-2004 12:25									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Solver quote: Took you quite long Did it ?

6 hours

I must admit, when I first read it, I had to reread like 2 times and then I couldn't stop laughing for 'hours'. Even later or now, I still have to chuckle about it.

	22-04-2004 20:02									#128
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There's a surprise then for you Gilg, I go offline sometimes .

	22-04-2004 20:06									#129
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Ahhhhhh, OK, excused Leave granted

	22-04-2004 20:08									#130
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Danke, Hauptoberjaegerfeldwebel .

	22-04-2004 20:13									#131
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Bitte, gerne geschehen.

Und ABGETRETEN

	27-04-2004 19:38									#132
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I can translate those files to spanish, if thats ok with you ppl

	27-04-2004 20:24									#133
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Excellent . That would be most helpful.

	27-04-2004 23:32									#134
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well, the playtest proyect has the English files translated to Spanish - everything was translated.
If someone can give me the link to the recent files that requieres translation, I can help with that

	28-04-2004 02:30									#135
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Welcome _X_ and thanks for your work.

Most of the new strings to translate are on the first post of Martin in this thread, a few ones are in the first pages of this same thread once again.

	28-04-2004 18:13									#136
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those files are dated older than the playtest can someone send me the files to my email please?

	28-04-2004 18:47									#137
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quote: Originally posted by _X_ those files are dated older than the playtest can someone send me the files to my email please?

Why all the files you need are in the playtest pack, except those of the Spanish version, well there are some the original ctp2 v.1.1 but of course there are still some strings missing. And of course all the text files included are older then the lastest playtest built, because they didn't need an update. So for the Spanish version it is your task to create new files, you can do this by adding the strings that you find in the thread here as Tamerlin described it, you take the English version of the files to update for refference.

-Martin

	30-04-2004 09:20									#138
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Well the problem is that I dont have the Spanish version of the game Sorry for being an ass and dont telling anyone before, I was very busy studying

Here are the translated lines:

The first file requieres no translation - add_str.txt
In ldl_str.txt, line 2836:

code:

# Ranking Tab
str_ldl_RANKING_MILITARY		"Militar"
str_ldl_RANKING_ECONOMIC		"Económico"
str_ldl_RANKING_SCIENTIFIC		"Científico"
str_ldl_RANKING_OVERALL		"Total"
str_ldl_INFO_RANKING_TAB		"Comparación"
str_ldl_RANKING_POLLUTION		"Contaminación"
str_ldl_RANKING_WONDER		"Maravillas"
str_ldl_RANKING_RANK			"Comparar:"
str_ldl_LINE_BUTTON			"Gráfica por Líneas"
str_ldl_ZEROSUM_BUTTON		"Gráfica por Suma Cero"

code:

### New World Shape Strings ###

str_tbl_ldl_North_South_Wrap_Only			"Engrape Norte-Sur"
str_ldl_North_and_South_edges_of_the_map_connect	"Los Bordes Norte y Sur del mapa se conectan"
str_ldl_Neptun_World					"Mundo Neptuniano"
str_tbl_ldl_Neptun_World					"Mundo Neptuniano"

### New Single Player Game Player Screen Strings ###

str_ldl_SPNGPS_NumPlayerSpinner	"Número de jugadores"
str_ldl_SPNGPS_MaxPlayerSpinner		"Número de jugadores máximo"
str_ldl_SPNGPS_PlayerSpinner		"Jugador inicial"

str_ldl_SPNGPS_NumPlayerText	"Ajusta el número de jugadores en un juego nuevo."
str_ldl_SPNGPS_MaxPlayerText	"Ajusta el número máximo de jugadores que pueden ocurrir dentro del juego."
str_ldl_SPNGPS_PlayerText	"Ajusta el jugador inicial. Determina el color de la civilización. (No funciona, todavía)"

### Added Disclaimer Strings ###

str_ldl_Disclaimer1 "ESTE MATERIAL NO ESTA HECHO O MANTENIDO POR ACTIVISION."
str_ldl_Disclaimer2 "Esta versión de Call to Power 2 fue desarrollada en http://apolyton.net."
str_ldl_Disclaimer3 "Contacte a los autores en ctp2source@apolyton.net."

### Version String ###

str_ldl_version "2003-12-23"

Again, sorry for being late, I want to contribute more on this proyect. Thanks

Last edited by _X_ on 30-04-2004 at 09:35

	30-04-2004 17:10									#139
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Don't worry _X_, we don't have any deadline... and I can tell you what being late means, believe me.

The problem is that we can't update the files and include the spanish translation in a playtest release if we don't have the original language files. May be should we make a Call to Spanish People...

	01-05-2004 01:27									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin The accurate translation of "Network Game" is "Jeu en Réseau", but these words are generally used for LAN games in France (as opposed to a "Partie Multijoueurs" - Multiplayer Game) and it could confuse some users.

Well, I was just putting together a new playtest version and figured I should do this translation, and so for the moment I've put "Jeu en Réseau" in. Tell me if you think one of the other options would fit better.

	01-05-2004 01:29									#141
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Attached is the French ldl_str.txt I'm now using - I made the changes to shorten the disclaimer string and to str_ldl_MULTIPLAYER as noted in my last post.

Attachment: ldl_str.txt
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

	01-05-2004 05:56									#142
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quote: Originally posted by J Bytheway Well, I was just putting together a new playtest version and figured I should do this translation, and so for the moment I've put "Jeu en Réseau" in. Tell me if you think one of the other options would fit better.

Well, I would prefer "Partie Multijoueurs" instead of "Jeu en Réseau" though your translation is accurate as Network Games is translated as "Jeu en Réseau".

This is not really a problem but it could confuse some players as (as I wrote it earlier) "Jeu en Réseau" usually refers to LAN games in France.

If you agree with the change I think it can wait until the next Playtest Version.

	01-05-2004 05:58									#143
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quote: Originally posted by J Bytheway Attached is the French ldl_str.txt I'm now using - I made the changes to shorten the disclaimer string and to str_ldl_MULTIPLAYER as noted in my last post.

I should have known better and read the following page of the thread before replying to your previous post.

[EDIT]Well I am a triple , that actually does not change anything about my initial post as the current translation is still "Jeu en Réseau", I thought you changed it and published a new ldl_str.txt with "Partie Multijoueurs".[/EDIT]

	01-05-2004 17:48									#144
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So... In summary, I should leave it as "Jeu en Réseau", correct?

	01-05-2004 18:01									#145
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quote: Originally posted by J Bytheway So... In summary, I should leave it as "Jeu en Réseau", correct?

Leave it as it is now as it is not a mistake if you consider the english text, it would be better to change it to "Partie Multijoueurs" in the next Playtest Build though.

	01-05-2004 18:07									#146
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To spare you some time, here is the ldl_str.txt with "Partie Multijoueurs".

Attachment: ldl_str.txt
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

	01-05-2004 18:15									#147
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Thanks .

	01-05-2004 18:37									#148
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You are welcomed J Bytheway...

BTW, Gibbz is asking us here if we need the Italian files for the CtP2 Playtest. I know there is an Italian folder in the Playtest Build but do we need the other files?

	01-05-2004 19:20									#149
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Hmm... I have no idea where those italian files came from, but we may well need more in the future...

	01-05-2004 20:32									#150
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quote: Originally posted by J Bytheway Hmm... I have no idea where those italian files came from, but we may well need more in the future...

sandro made them, he just wasn't able to attach them to one post here, so he mailed them to me. Then I added them to our file database, in the Altered Source Files thread there should be a note about it.

-Martin