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Togas
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California
Jun 2002 time: 21:35
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OK, I've now gone through the saves all the way back to before CDG had 3 cities (missing a few saves, but used turn reports for intel).
We have just finished turn 66.
Going back to turn 56, CDG had only 2 cities. Their cap was pop 3, Minnesota was pop 5.
On turn 57 Minnesota dropped to size 3, Cap remained at size 3.
On turn 58, Cap was size 4, Minn size 3.
On turn 59 Cap was size 4, Minn was size 3 and Possum was founded.
On turn 60 Cap was size 4, Minn was size 4! (4 turn growth. Granary and 3fpt.)
On turn 62 Cap pop dropped to 2, Minn was still at 4. Settler produced.
On turn 64 Minn dropped to 3 (on the turn that it should have grown to 5). Settler produced.
Those 2 settlers are currently unaccounted for.
However, for them to be transported to an island, CDG needs to have Mapmaking. We need to ask PAL if CDG has it. We also need to ask CDG.
--Togas
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Togas
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California
Jun 2002 time: 21:35
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Tech Trades & CDG
(moved discussion to where it belongs)
Get CDG to research Literature. Offer them Mysticism and Polytheism for it.
When CDG asks us how PAL got Republic, we and gleefully tell them we got a sweet deal outa PAL for Rep and CoL.
CDG doesn't know we have Horseback Riding. We researched Mathematics "on the sly" before Philo because they were going too slow. We traded Rep for Hbr, Math, a bunch of gold, workers ... AND ... they promised to give us Mapmaking, Construction, and Polytheism!
We can tell CDG that we just aquired all of the techs PAL had that we didn't, got them to promise to give us the big two required techs, AND got some workers that we desperately needed, because we lost some to barbarians (HOPEFULLY, they'll then feel like sharing and say they lost a settler to barbs).
Bottom line, we got WORKERS, got caught up on tech, and don't have to research the big techs. Only tech we really need now is Literature for libraries, oh and Currency. CDG can't research Currency, so we will. We really need them to research Lit, and we'll give them a sweet deal (Myst and Poly) for it.
When CDG askes "What about Philosophy?" we can tell them that PAL didn't want it 'cause they are just about to finish it themselves and were somewhat annoyed that we got it first. Remember, PAL told CDG they were going to research Philo.
When CDG asks "Why didn't they give you Mapmaking?" we tell them the truth -- we want to build curraghs first and upgrade later. Mapmaking is already in our PAL deal so that if CDG researches it (which we do not want them to do) they can't trade it to us. We thereby encourage them to research a tradeable tech.
Thoughts?
--Togas
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