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child of Thor is offline child of Thor
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looking damn awesome so far

options down on the bottom(on the left or in the middle?) seems good - how about a way to launch mods for the replacement button?(if thats possible).

And the small legal writing - it just doesn't look quite right in red. Not sure what other colour would be best, but the red although very obvious - spoils the nice wood tones we've[edit: he he! er i mean 'you' ] got going?

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Brown

so it is barely readable

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well thats what you do with legal stuff, make it barely legible

how about black(cue THAT 'Fast Show' scetch - uk residents only? ).....or a light tan/magnolia - red just draws the eye away from the actual screen - good for lawyers, not so good for newbies/players

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You know how there the black edge around the intro screen how about we do it there with a colour of “20”,”20”,”20” .

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how about black(cue THAT 'Fast Show' scetch - uk residents only? )...


Black! Black! You lock me in the cellar and feed me pins!

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@ Maq - ah...... the secret trauma of the middle-aged water colour artist

Well am i the only one who thinks red is a bit too in your face, it really seems to distract my eye from the great looking title page?
I'll have to download it and play with it in photoshop to be able to tell what other colours work..........hmmm maybe green?

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I don't care for red either. I lean to black.

I haven't looked yet, but can I assume the each individual button is a graphic, or does the program take the same button background and overlay different type?

Got a little busy at work hope to get to a new sketch in an hour or two.

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Well am i the only one who thinks red is a bit too in your face, it really seems to distract my eye from the great looking title page?


Not the only one, i mentioned it earlier in the thread, i think black looks good.

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the program take the same button background and overlay different type?


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Well all aesthetic considerations aside, the disclaimer is probably a key requirement of the EULA and should probably be very noticeable on the opening splash screen. The very bright red rgb(255,0,0) achieves this. Something not quite so bright like rgb(192,0,0) might also work.

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it's got to be visible yes but in your face no should be green black something barley noticeable

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Latest version, hopefully darn close to approval.

Elements such as a quick launch button can be added as they are programmed. Not a problem.

No luck here with upload. I've come to the conclusion the problem is Apple's Safari browser. Will try again from Explorer.

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From M$ explorer...

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This has been downloaded 71 time(s).

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Looking very good

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Nice work OnePresent

But if I remember correctly "Call to Power" cannot be included in any modified version of the game like the one we're working on according to the EULA. At list as a part of the game's name.

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Thanks.

So we get to rename the game? That would be soooo cool.

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I can't see it in the EULa

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Looks very nice indeed

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But if I remember correctly "Call to Power" cannot be included in any modified version of the game like the one we're working on according to the EULA. At list as a part of the game's name.


Now you're just making stuff up.

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Really nice work One present...

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It does look really good.

About the version box, perhaps you can try a box like the "multiplayer" and "single player" boxes but flip it vertically? and obviously slightly smaller because of less importance.

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It looks fantastic, not only great

One suggestion, which might be worth a try:

Changing the "Apolyton edition" to a style which looks more like burned into the wood? Only a suggestion

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could be good

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Superb

See black looks better (as maq may have mentioned ).

Its still perfectly clear and doesn't distract the eye - top job OnePresent

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Don't know about network games but IIRC you need it for Hotseat games, and probably for PBEM too, but since the latter is defunct I'm not even sure about that.


From what I've seen in the code it's the same as in CTP1, where you generally load PBEM games by double-clicking on the save game files, so no in-game interface is necessary (but if you can't do that for some reason then you can load them from the SP load game button as Locutus suggests).

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Now you're just making stuff up.


You're right, it's not in the EULA...
I had the impression that I read that somewhere...

None the less the EULA refers to the source code and material accompany it and not to the game's name itself, therefore it could be subject to copyright issues since "Call To Power" is copyright of Activision.

Probably that won't be a problem but an issue we should be aware of.

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I think "Call To Power" would be a trademark, rather than copyright, so it should be OK (but don't consider that an informed legal opinion! After all, we only need to consider what happened to Activision over "Civilization"...).

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Oh, the same should apply to any graphic used unmodified or modified and that comes from the original CD.

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Oh, the same should apply to any graphic used unmodified or modified and that comes from the original CD.


...and all the text files, which modmakers have been distributing since time immemorial. Of course, this is a slightly different situation, but I hope that it would be considered the same sort of thing. We should of course be careful not to make available so much that it looks remotely possible that the game can be run without the CD...

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I think "Call To Power" would be a trademark, rather than copyright, so it should be OK (but don't consider that an informed legal opinion! After all, we only need to consider what happened to Activision over "Civilization"...).


Yes, it is a trademark. Acording to the "INDEX.HTM" located in the help folder of the original CD: "Call to Power is a trademark of Activision, Inc. All rights reserved."

I am not aware of the legal stuff about trade marks but there must be some sort of limitation in using that the specific name. Probably cannot be used without the owner's permission in another game title or material other than the original but I can't be 100% sure about it.

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I would hope that all of this stuff falls under "New Game Materials", upon the distribution of which the EULA places several restrictions: not a stand-alone product, not illegally exporting, not for profit and most importantly:

quote:
· New Game Materials must not contain any illegal, obscene or defamatory materials, materials that infringe rights of privacy and publicity of third parties or (without appropriate irrevocable licenses granted specifically for that purpose) any trademarks, copyright-protected works or other properties of third parties.


It specifically says trademarks, copyright-protected of third parties, so distributing Activision's should be OK.

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