17-05-2004 04:21									#211
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Here's the map of Ronya that Az mentioned.

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	17-05-2004 04:21									#212
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Small then ... excellent

	17-05-2004 04:22									#213
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I had Audoninna following the highways north to Hofesh and east to Ronya. I think it makes the most sense that you attempt the same.

	17-05-2004 04:28									#214
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okily dokily

Head on clash with his troops heading to hofesh
I attack Ronya on the A50
That column heading to concept can just make its way as quick as possible over the hills *adds a few more springs to the suspension*

	17-05-2004 04:39									#215
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great

Now it's up to Frankychan to post his response to events in Roshem.

	17-05-2004 04:51									#216
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Actually, Ronya is a rather large metropolis. It has a system of ring Freeways, you see. But we build high.

	17-05-2004 05:00									#217
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as my bombing runs had no effect on his installations, his attacks on my flagship are jsut rumour and innuendo....

	17-05-2004 05:10									#218
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Again, I think everyone agrees that your attacks did have an effect, he just hasn't revealed the extent of it.

Either argue why he couldn't have sunk your ship in port, or accept it.

	17-05-2004 07:48									#219
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i already did that in the war thread... but i would have accepted some damage if he had done so... Now i see no reason why my airforce based in tel azan and on board the ship itself would allow them to get that close.... With satellite and radar tracking in place we had plenty of early warning....


Our AA faciltiys in Tel Azan are world class and despite beign told otherwise, my navy is large enough to help protect the ships.

	17-05-2004 08:31									#220
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What do you have in the way of numbers in terms of air defence in and around Tel Azan, Ras?

I think given all the arguing back and forth, it would be good to try to establish what's what.

	17-05-2004 08:38									#221
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ha , not fallnig for that trap !! if i post 3000 planes , he psots 5000 planes


anyway... i dont know how many planes are there.. i not even sure how big the airfield is ...


i have my main fleet of shore and support from the islands to the west ...

	17-05-2004 09:24									#222
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You're so cynical.

He's already posted that he sent "thousands" of fighters and bombers against you, and that he estimated your defences to be "about 400 fighters."

A full battle fleet (including 5 or so carrier groups) can have over a thousand aircraft. You should be able to scramble most of them in time. I doubt you would have many aircraft in place around Tel Azan yet, and it would take some time for your fighter wings based on the Western Isles to reach the mainland (maybe in time, maybe not...). We can assume that you had some of them airborne already, so at least a few dozen fighters would be available.

So... I'd say your available air strength would probably be about than 1000 fighters. You'd have AA and other air defence in your favour, but parking that ship in port makes it a fairly easy target.

On his side of the equation, he's had a long time to build up his airforce in Azan, but he'll have to account for your sneak attack. All things being equal, he should be able to muster a force about the same size as yours.

If the sole aim of his attack was to get at your flagship, I think he'd be able to succeed, but at a huge cost to his air strength.

	17-05-2004 09:42									#223
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Whoa, lots of posts.

I didn't post a comment on my most recent post, but then it's nothing special. I didn't want to post any actions until Frankychan has a look. It's just a thing to say the Karakas forces are arriving on the scene.

	17-05-2004 09:46									#224
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lucky for me it was only our small aircraft carrier....

and why wouldnt my numbers in tel azan be high..

We have controooled the city for ovr a month in game time now possible loonger awaiting the final capture of the town...

but whateve, if you weant the flag ship sunk it sunk i dont care...

	17-05-2004 09:47									#225
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. President Whoa, lots of posts. I didn't post a comment on my most recent post, but then it's nothing special. I didn't want to post any actions until Frankychan has a look. It's just a thing to say the Karakas forces are arriving on the scene.

already mapped it for you.

	17-05-2004 09:50									#226
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Ras: I'm not sure if we've established that it's been a month or not... the waiting for Lazerus was real time, not game time. Even so, what you could move there in a month wouldn't be able to stop him if he was determined enough (ie, if he didn't care how many planes he lost)

	17-05-2004 09:50									#227
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Thanks Jon. Just want to say I really like your maps.

	17-05-2004 09:52									#228
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aw, shucks.

	17-05-2004 09:52									#229
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i must say i already posted in the war thread that the fact he busy in tel azan has allowed us to bomb his armoured diviosions,,, lets wait till he says how i crushed his armour before i go further...

Ill await his finalyl getting some setback to his military..

if this attack also goes unacknowledged or at no cost to him, then althoguh i have posted that i now accept his attacks on my supply ships, i will not continue to accept his attacks on my armys....

	17-05-2004 09:55									#230
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The allies have taken back a third of Azan. I'd say that qualifies as a military setback for the Hive.

Just keep roleplaying, Ras. Ignoring events won't help your argument any.

	17-05-2004 10:00									#231
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read the war thread ....

	17-05-2004 13:15									#232
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel UR, the river is a major river, that was also deepened. that can support some serious navigation. Ships go us as high as Tal Zach. Ships with DWT as high as 50,000 can go all the way up to Tal Zach.

Cool beans

	17-05-2004 13:18									#233
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quote: Originally posted by Lazerus well i said 400 enemy aircraft, its a reasonably large number to have from a few carriers, and it was a sitting duck in there he cannot deny that.

The biggest US CVN has an airwing of around 70-85 planes. 400 would require 5 CVBG (carrier battlegroups) or so.

	17-05-2004 14:14									#234
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i think he was allowign for planes in Tel Azan and in the battle group it self...

	17-05-2004 20:17									#235
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger The biggest US CVN has an airwing of around 70-85 planes. 400 would require 5 CVBG (carrier battlegroups) or so.

A full fleet could have that and then some.

	17-05-2004 21:10									#236
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quote: Originally posted by joncha A full fleet could have that and then some.

Not really. The US has 12 CVBG distributed among a number of fleets.

	17-05-2004 21:27									#237
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So i got it almost spot on with 400 assuming hes abit weaker then the US? I just posted what i considered a slightly larger then expected number to stop him complaining i was downgrading his force

quote: "They are too busy attemtping to bomb tel Azan and the Harbour, they will have little left to stop the combined missions of the allies

As for that have you checked the Chinese airforce recently ? 2,000 is not a large % and i'm bigger then China and twice as mean.

	17-05-2004 22:03									#238
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OOC: If you want to, you can probably throw a lot of planes at his fleet and literally decimate it. You are going to take lots of damage to yourself, however, since modern CVBGs are designed to stop incoming air strikes.

	17-05-2004 22:18									#239
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Yeah i know, but with his aircraft decimated other then launch cruise missiles (of which they can't have too many left before heading off to resupply) then that fleet isn't really worth the loss right now.
Better to keep them as cover for the armoured columns, or for removing cities

Last edited by Lazerus on 17-05-2004 at 22:33

	17-05-2004 22:40									#240
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Well i find all the discussions about military power a bit unclear. The only factors that count are militairy spending and economy. A nation that invests in education or that has other priorities can never achieve military power ? I think that is rubbish. A nation like the Hive can not be extremely powerfull on all fronts. Their militairy might must have down sites like a lack of education. Lack of food or something