02-06-2004 05:47									#451
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Not really... to me, this is a hobby, and I'm doing it as a favor for the owners. Unlike SOME people, I have a life... kids, a wife, a job that keeps me very busy, outside interests, volunteer work, other hobbies, lots of friends, and I read a ton as well... I'm still addicted to civ, and still play MP a lot... I'd call it a good life

Do you enjoy being a mod?

	02-06-2004 05:48									#452
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quote: Originally posted by GePap I don;t have the time to watch Enterprise, thought I also haven't had a very high opinion of most of the episodes I have watched. Of all the ST captains , I find Archer the most annoying one BY FAR.

Worse than Janeway who went through Borg space rather than going around?

	02-06-2004 05:48									#453
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Farscape likes to play with sci-fi conventions. Most episodes involve a typical set-up or cliche that (in a show like, say, Voyager) would have you know how things will turn out by the first commercial break. But (with good writing) they manage to turn the ideas into vehicles for smart stories and solid character development. Farscape is also really good at developing interesting story arcs, so events in one episode have genuine significance in subsequent episodes.

	02-06-2004 05:52									#454
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Worse than Janeway who went through Borg space rather than going around?

Death wish to be sure, but she only did that because the detour would have added 10 years to their trip.

	02-06-2004 05:57									#455
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs Death wish to be sure, but she only did that because the detour would have added 10 years to their trip.

We're talking about a captain who made an alliance with the Borg and was suprised when they attacked her ship.

	02-06-2004 05:58									#456
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer why is it corny? Because Kevin Sorbo is too much like Hercules (perfect)? but thats how all main characters are. is it the Nietzscheans and their strange stoic philosophizing? what?

The best main characters have flaws. That's what makes them great.
What makes farscape great is the fact that ALL of the characters are flawed. You also need to know in a drama that someone may die or lose. On farscape you never know who may lose or die at least in that episode.
The villain needs to be something of an antihero. Bad yet bad for a reason. Love to hate him. Someone like Darth Vader or maybe SCORPIUS. What's refreshing about Farscape is that unlike ST/SW where you can argue over the rules for several days, Farscape continously breaks the rules. Farscape explores concepts that I have never seen on ST/SW. The tricky part is catching a viewer like yourself. You just need to watch a specific episode that appeals to your sensibilities and you will be hooked.

	02-06-2004 06:02									#457
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc We're talking about a captain who made an alliance with the Borg and was suprised when they attacked her ship.

No, she wasn't suprised, just angry with herself for not having chosen the smart course. She should have loosened her hairbun a little earlier; her head would have been a little clearer.

	02-06-2004 06:04									#458
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs No, she wasn't suprised, just angry with herself for not having chosen the smart course. She should have loosened her hairbun a little earlier; her head would have been a little clearer.

The Court Martial of Janeway

	02-06-2004 06:08									#459
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Non-canon? You dare cite non-canon? For shame...

	02-06-2004 06:38									#460
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quote: Originally posted by Ming They never will... whenever star wars or star trek comes up, the debate starts all over again... and to steal a line from William Shatner... GET A LIFE!

Hey! I got a life, but you know, growing up in rural Virginia in an older house near a modest apple orchard we had lots of wasps and hornets. Since Dad was away often he had to rely on us kids to take care of the place, which meant learning how to deal with a hornets nest.



Stir it up and run like H***!

	02-06-2004 06:45									#461
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus compared to Storm Troopers, even the Borg look good!

Heck! A bunch of teddy bears (ewoks) once whupped an entire legion of storm troopers! The Borg ain't no teddy bears!

	02-06-2004 06:49									#462
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs Enterprise: It's ok; I watch it because it's Star Trek Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis: Andromeda: Corny, but it's something to watch that's scifi

Has Atlantis started running yet? I haven't seen it advertised. Which channel is it on and when does it air?

	02-06-2004 07:10									#463
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc We're talking about a captain who made an alliance with the Borg and was suprised when they attacked her ship.

And yet Janeway could still take Archer out back and beat him within an inch of his life on the other side of the line.


Stubborn and proud she is, but if I get into a war, Janeway or Archer? Come on, not even a contest.

	02-06-2004 07:15									#464
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quote: Originally posted by GePap but if I get into a war, Janeway or Archer? Come on, not even a contest.

Indeed. There would be no choice but to perform seppuku.

	02-06-2004 07:42									#465
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One of the local public libraries here has three or four shelves of Star Trek:TNG on VHS. I never saw the first few seasons, or indeed much of it at all, so I checked out the first five tapes.

Now I just need to get satellite, so I can watch TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager.

	02-06-2004 12:37									#466
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quote: i just find it bothersome how the three sci-fi shows i watch (Enterprise, StarGate, and Andromeda) have been trashed so much in this thread... why do yall not like them? are they silly? badly acted? too mainstream?

Enterprise: a show poorly executed that suffers hugely because of the fact that it's linked to the star trek franchise, crippling it and the show because of its shoddiness.

Stargate: never seen that many episodes, because they were never broadcast on decent hours. what i did see, i kinda liked, but not enough to make me want to stay up to 1am to watch, nor set my vcr to tape.

Andromeda: has plenty of good episodes, but then it has a few bad ones: space zombies, anyone?

	02-06-2004 14:09									#467
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Has Atlantis started running yet?

Nein. Sorry 'bout how I worded that post, but just like I'm not married to Enterprise, just to its Star Trek relation, I don't know yet if i'll like Atlantis or watch it just 'cause it's Stargate.

quote: I haven't seen it advertised.

They've just started reving up the hype machine with clips from the first episode and shorter tidbits from later in the season, possibly mixed with SG-1 footage as well. Before, they were just using a clip of the point-of-view racing under water towards a submerged stargate that looked different from normal stargates.

quote: Which channel is it on and when does it air?

Starts airing in July on SciFi.

	02-06-2004 17:06									#468
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quote: one episode i saw had them on a planet that drugged them into loving living on this planet

The copied it from TOS.

quote: The villain needs to be something of an antihero. Bad yet bad for a reason. Love to hate him. Someone like Darth Vader or maybe SCORPIUS.

Dukat

	02-06-2004 17:15									#469
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus Dukat

Dukat was just a creep.



But Scorpius, now he is a proper villain.

	02-06-2004 20:34									#470
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I liked Dukat. He was a very tragic figure.

	02-06-2004 20:49									#471
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus compared to Storm Troopers, even the Borg look good!

Stormtrooper tactics are fine. And, unlike the Borg, they've actually WON ground combat before. Ever watched TESB? Notice the big ground battle on Hoth?

	02-06-2004 20:57									#472
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Heck! A bunch of teddy bears (ewoks) once whupped an entire legion of storm troopers! The Borg ain't no teddy bears!

In favorable terrain, etc...

The Borg would be even worse off than Stormtroopers there - they have NO protection against kinetic weapons, unlike Stormtrooper armor.

	02-06-2004 23:45									#473
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quote: Originally posted by Kucinich In favorable terrain, etc... The Borg would be even worse off than Stormtroopers there - they have NO protection against kinetic weapons, unlike Stormtrooper armor.

In favorable terrain!? What an excuse for an entire legion of the Emperor's best troops to be massacred by teddy bears.

to this stupid argument. Just enjoy the movies.

	03-06-2004 00:36									#474
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How effective do you think large personnel carriers are going to be in a forest? Plus the fact that the Ewoks know the terrain and blend in.

In an out and out battle, the Empire completely owns everyone. Like Hoth.

	03-06-2004 00:43									#475
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Yes, the Empire owns everyone. Except when Lucas decides they don't. Just like the Federation owns everyone, except when the ST screenwriters decide they don't.

	03-06-2004 01:01									#476
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Notice "out and out battle".

	03-06-2004 01:02									#477
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Notice its just a movie.

	03-06-2004 01:13									#478
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Notice how the Empire lost and ended. The Federation lives on. The Borg Collective lives on. The Empire however, is no more.

	03-06-2004 01:18									#479
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The Federation and the Borg weren't fighting the Rebels.

The Empire, twenty0five years AFTER the loss of almost all of their true upper echelon, wasn't gone yet. It fell, but very slowly, against a galaxy-wide insurgency.

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quote: The Empire, twenty0five years AFTER the loss of almost all of their true upper echelon, wasn't gone yet. It fell, but very slowly, against a galaxy-wide insurgency.

The Borg, AFTER the loss of their upper echelon (in First Contact), wasn't gone yet. It didn't fall, and re-emerced more powerful than before.

The Empire sucked anyways. Even the Dominion had better genetically engineered soldiers than the Empire. The Jem'hadar, both in genetics (physical fitness and combat capabilities) and in armaments (they use personal cloaking devices, while in SW only the heaviest ships can use them, let alone individual soldiers) are vastly superior to Storm Troopers.

Borg Drones are vastly superior too. Within a few shots, they'll have adapted to Storm Trooper rifles, and will begin assimilating one by one.