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Dr Strangelove is offline Dr Strangelove
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Reported just now, two explosions were heard in the vicinity of the school. No further word. This incident is getting almost no attention from the US press. Wierd.

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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
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The point was that Soviets weren't doing better job than Poland against Hitler. The only thing that saved USSR was its size


Size, size, you know that saying- size doesn't matter?
So in 1941 Germany had over 170 mln population, while USSR had 191 mln, considering that Germany already had almost whole Europe (conquered or allied) they had a quite an advantage in terms of both population and industrial capacity. Aside Polish army, Red Army was in some fields superior in comparison with Werchmaht (but in many fields wasn't), first of all T-34 comes to mind.
I can't say the same about Polish army. Both Soviets and Germans improved in mobile warfare, invented by Budenny during Russian civil war and Russian-Polish war, while you just copied it, because it was absolutely butt-kicking in 20's. Your mistake. So I think your statement is incorect.

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Also, the Red Army had just recieved a kick in the balls from "uncle joe"

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Nov 2001
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Reported just now, two explosions were heard in the vicinity of the school. No further word. This incident is getting almost no attention from the US press. Wierd.

Yes, when pediatrician Dr. Roshal whom they demanded for negotiations (he helped in 2002 during hostage situation in Moscow) was about entering the building for personal negotiations with terrorists, they've started fire from assault rifles and grenade launchers attached to AR's. No one was hurt.

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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
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Some photos.

Dr. Leonid Roshal who tried to enter the building after agreement with terrorists:

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Smoke over the site

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Some parents of hostages (in accordance with last news, aside teachers, personel and some parents there are about 400 children held hostages)

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Nov 2001
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More parents

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More smoke.

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Nov 2001
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FSB just asked Iranian journalist of Al-Alam TV chanel to help with negotiations and he agreed (recently Al-Jazira TV journalists refused to help with negotiations).
Looks like they are trying all possible chanels to start talks.

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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
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Senator from Chechnya just made a big statement, in brief- "the ****s who did this are just beasts who have nothing common with Islam, they are just a ****ers, no matter of their nationality, or faith. Thier people curse them. Chechen, Ingush and Ossetin "stareishiny" (elders, leaders, respected because of their age and wisdom) offered to substitute hostages with themselves".

Also there was a meeting in Chechnya were locals condemned terrorists.

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Aug 1999
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Its about time someone stood up against the hijacking of their religion.

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NEWS FLASH!

Terorists just released 12 children and 12 females. Females have been released without any conditions. Terrorists refuse to negotiate with doctor whom they demanded for negotiations before and probably would talk with jouranilsts of Arabian TV chanels.
Also some just born babies still remains among the hostages (some parents brought their babies to celebration dedicated to first school day).

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Terrorists still refuse to take any food, water and medicine.

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My heart is with you, Russia.

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Another Russian internet source rambler.ru (it's on Russian only) says about 26 released kids and woman.
Another photo from site.

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I say release the Chechen prisoners, then track them down and kill them.

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My heart is with you, Russia.


I'm not entire Russia, but thank you brother. Here it looks like whole Russia is stunned. Everyone stays near TV or radio waiting for news.

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after this is over, find the ****ers, kill'em and burry them among pig remains...

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I say release the Chechen prisoners, then track them down and kill them.

I'm not sure it's thier only demand. They act like complete crazy ****s. First they demand doctor who leads a red-cross like organization for negotiations and when he aproaches the building, they start to shoot. Crazy unpredicatable f***ers.

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I'm afraid this case would have very bad concequences. Perhaps terrorists want a scenario when everyone would start to avenge children and start to attack inocent, civilian people of Caucasus orgin everywhere across the Russia. Human's rage is unpredictable.

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Why don't the Russians say something to the effect that they will use nukes on rebel bases.

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Because it's in the middle of one of their own cities?

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Why don't the Russians say something to the effect that they will use nukes on rebel bases.
Fuel air bombs on Grozny aren't enough for you?

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This incident is getting almost no attention from the US press. Wierd.


That's because they don't want to distract from the RNC!!

Seriously though, I am very curious as to why this story is not receiving major coverage. I'm beginning to wonder just where does the US government stands on this issue?

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For ****s sake, do we ever pay much attention to the Chechan war?!?

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That's because they don't want to distract from the RNC!!

Seriously though, I am very curious as to why this story is not receiving major coverage. I'm beginning to wonder just where does the US government stands on this issue?


Coby Briant was the top story today. What a twisted society we have become.

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Because it's in the middle of one of their own cities?


From my understanding, the rebel bases are high in the mountains as the al Qaida bases were in Afghanistan. We used some very big bombs against those bases, but they were not enough. OBL managed to escape.

Clearly if the rebels do not have bases, but intermix in Chechen cities, bombs of any variety would not be advisable unless they were of the kind that can hit a targeted fly from 15,000 feet.

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[qE] Originally posted by Ned
From my understanding, the rebel bases are high in the mountains as the al Qaida bases were in Afghanistan.[/q]

Ah, those bases. I thought you misspoke and meant the school.

Still, they aren't going to be all that much more afraid of nukes than of lots of normal bombs. It's not like the threat of nuking a city.

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Fuel air bombs on Grozny aren't enough for you?

I realize that during second Chechen war many civilans died, but I hate to remind you DD, that it was your country who invaded foriegn country which never done any harm to US and never threaten/have any possibilities to fulfill their threat. Aside this unprovoked attack, the preemptive measure, Russia was under constant attacks from terrorists whose base was located in Chechnya. They blew up our houses, killed our citizens, exploding our markets and subway stations, they kidnapping our citizens, turn they into slaves, REAL ****ING slaves. Had you have a dozen of US citiszens turned into slaves how would you react? We had thousands of our citizens killed/turned into a slaves, kidnapped from all corners Russia. Slavery became one of the most profitable bussines in Chechnya between 1996-1999. And all this happened while de-facto Chehnya has been independent already, after yeltzin-maskhadov truce of 1996 and already had their own Taliban-type state with medieval laws and had no a single Russian soldier or policemen on their soil. The 1999 invasion in Dagestan was a limit brake. We had right to defend ourselves, GODDAMNIT. Now you, who invaded forign country to "bring them freedom", without a single provocation from thier side, lecturing us about human rights? Just how many human rights you have violated in Iraq? How many civilians you have killed there? Wasn't in you DD, who posted a pic of US troops seating on huge fuel air bomb proposed for Iraqis?
And to your knowledege, such boms doesn't designed for urban warfare. They designed for destruction of deep cave-like hideouts. Such boms do not used against cities, simply because it's inefficient, because the same destruction could be achieved with common bombs.

p.s. Nothing changes.
F***ing hypocricity.

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