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jim panse is offline jim panse
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@ Curt: Great effort! Could you also post it in MGE formar in the WW2 showcase, btw?

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Very nice, curt!

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You have Fairline to thank, but I will sling an MGE version together soon!

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For those about to rock - or play MGE...

Attachment: he111-mge.gif
This has been downloaded 163 time(s).

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Gimme a definite answer: will You place Upper Silesian city, or do You want to feel my wrath!

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How definite is this: NO !!!

I await your wrath

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Great He111 Curt! You forgot to put your initials on it BTW - credit where it's due!

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Ah!

Tis but an obvious tweaking of your great Ju88!

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quote:
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...or do You want to feel my wrath!



My mother always told me never to feel a man's wrath!

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quote:
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Well I went out and bought some soundtracks coming home from work. Hopefully I can get some nice environmental music and background battle music from them. And yes, credit will be given of course. Musicians gotta eat...


Sounds great Harry. I've got the TB game Eatern Front (sold as East Front in the US I think) which has dozens of great sounds on it. I could e-mail a few tasty ones to you.

What were the soundtracks BTW?

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Eastern Front - The old Talonsoft classic!
I always liked the 3D intro, well ahead of their time!

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I'm not a big fan of that because it lowers the superimposed fortified and fortress icons. See this thread. Boco did it in El Aurens. For this you'll need CivSprite.


Yes of course - I'd forgotten that the fortress/fortified icons were effected. Have to ditch the health bar tweaks in that case.

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I don't mind them too much. I stripped them off the air units in Market-Garden; they already have visible markings – good enough for me, but not necessarily others. Not everybody's familiar with WWII units either; that also makes a difference.


I'll stick national markings on the units and see how they look.

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My mother always told me never to feel a man's wrath!


Ooh matron!

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@ Curt: Thanks a lot! I am obliged

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Sounds great Harry. I've got the TB game Eatern Front (sold as East Front in the US I think) which has dozens of great sounds on it. I could e-mail a few tasty ones to you.

What were the soundtracks BTW?



Cool, send them to willsbuATyahoo.com. I should have plenty of space there.

The soundtracks were Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers, both US WW2 movies. Unfortunately, after listening to them, a lot of the music is very somber and ethereal. I'm going to go online and look for some good old Commie Party music, the sort that gets your blood pumping.

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How definite is this: NO !!!


C-mon.
If Red Front's authors forgot to place Leningrad and Kursk on the map, wouldn't You correct it?

I won't stop complaining until You'll obey my demand!


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Perhaps someone should check an atlas to see how serious a complaint Heresson has here.

I hate to say it, but the great Nemo did make the odd mistake.

Personally, I can overlook the odd imperfection in such a great scenario...

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Was there any significant war action in the Upper Silesian area?

And considering this is a scenario that concentrates on the Soviet side,
should we worry that cetain areas of the Axis sides are not all represented?

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Sorry for going OT here, but where has Nemo been? He hasn't disappeared, I take it, has he?

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@Heresson

It would help a great deal if we knew exactly what you want. Post the relevant part of the RF map, showing where your all-important city is located so people can see where it is and what it will do to nearby cities, the road network, terrain, events, etc.

@rmsharpe

I vaguely recall a post from ~ a year ago that said that his e-mail address at that time was the White House. I believe that it may be on Colwyn's Red Front thread when there was discussion of how he should handle the question of acknowledgements

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Ah, because I found him at another forum.

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I vaguely recall a post from ~ a year ago that said that his e-mail address at that time was the White House.




Now it all becomes clear: 2194 Days of War was simply George Nemo Bush rehearsing for his time in office

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Ah, because I found him at another forum.


double -

Which forum RM?

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http://pub120.ezboard.com/biaapaope...file?login=nemo

I was searching for WWII stuff about Silesia, and I came across this:

"I have a great deal of respect for the USSR's War effort and have studied it in depth (I actually designed a Computer Game Scenario on the subject called Red Front)" -- Posted September 30th, 2002.

But I went to his profile and he is still an active user there, making posts as recently as today.

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Sorry for going OT here, but where has Nemo been? He hasn't disappeared, I take it, has he?


I've been in contact with him quite recently. He's officially retired from Civ.

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Sorry, but I don't think that is funny at all.

Captain Nemo left an awesome legacy of Civ 2 innovations and scenarios that designers have built upon since then. If he felt that the Civ 2 engine could not be made to do what he wanted to accomplish, he chose to retire rather than lower his standards.

I am very concerned that we obtain his blessing for this project. fairline, you're ramrodding this thing, can you try to use the good offices of CapTVK to get the good Captain's go ahead?

Edit: Including a verb in a sentence helps a lot.

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I think his blessing, in addition to giving legitimacy to the project, would definently be good for a morale booster.

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Sorry, but I don't think that is funny at all.


Actually, it was rather a +1 than funny post
And I am sad when anyone resigns, especially someone as respected as Him.

quote:

Captain Nemo left an awesome legacy of Civ 2 innovations and scenarios that designers have built upon since then. If he felt that the Civ 2 engine could not be made to do what he wanted to accomplish, he chose to retire rather than lower his standards.


He didn't have to lower it, He could stay at the same or increase it only a bit each time...
I think there's still room for innovation.
Do You think all scenarios after Captain Nemo's are of lower standarts?
He retired, and I think of it as a great loss to us, NO MATTER THE REASON.
Actually, if it's the reason You stated, it's no excuse, bah, it's worse this way. Because
1) By claiming there's nothing left to do, He de facto claims that what could and was done after He left was not of much importance, and will not be
(if nothing new could be done, nothing new was done)
2) This means that his fans were not of much importance to Him as well - I guess we can be sure his next scns, even without much innovation, would be hits
(he resigned despite other people wishes)
3) It's hybris, if He thinks He's reached the limits (connected with point 1)
4) It gives bad example for others.
Actually, it COULD mean that. It doesn't have to.
My points are based on Your claims why he's resigned, not his.

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Well, I got his permission to use his (and Alex's) graphics for Freeciv 2.0. I'm sure he won't mind that his original scenario get's an update as long as the original author(s) are mentioned.

But I will try and contact him again to get his official seal of approval.

 
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