15-11-2004 17:38									#181
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Thanks all for your comments

quote: Originally posted by Dr Kellogg I also remember that the game gets somewhat boring at the end. Maybe you could add some minor events which appear later in the scenario like (more) Invisible Volkssturm after german cities are taken and extraordinary strong Waffen-SS which defend their country till the end etc

These are good points Dr K. Agricola has opened a thread to discuss the non-graphics related aspects of this mod here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=124965

We need as many people as possible to contribute with game-play related stuff to allow Agricola to do his thing!

quote: Amazing work. but why are some russian tanks and soldiers facing eastwards?

Thanks, and as Curt says one of the cool aspects of ToT is that units face left or right depending on their direction of movement and if they are being attacked. Unfortunately at the start of the scenario all units face right (the default direction) and there is no way of getting round this short of removing and re-placing units. It is kind of appropriate having the Russians with their backs to the Germans at the start given their state of readiness at the outset of Barbarossa

quote: I'm working on suburbs to match the ToT cities I sent you, Fairline - Should be ready tomorrow

Excellent! Thanks Curt, I'm looking forward to them

I'm taking a break from units to have a go at the Winter terrain. I've got some nice rips I took from the new Axis and Allies game which will form the basis of the snow tiles. I need some fir trees as well; anybody got any 16-bit ones?

	15-11-2004 20:30									#182
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I'll take a look for some in my archive-

Failing that I'll make them!
Do you need the whole 'Terrain2' set or just a set of three for 'Terrain1'...

Let me know!

	15-11-2004 23:48									#183
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Thanks Curt - anything you can do terrain- or city-wise is greatly appreciated. I've had a go at winter versions of the terrain2 dessiduous (is that how you spell that?) trees. I've tried to keep the scale and layout that of Favoured flight's summer ones:

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	15-11-2004 23:54									#184
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Here's what I've got so far with the same old screenie. It needs your cities and suburbs, a winter version of Catfish's sea and some smaller-scale fir-trees. Shall I e-mail you the terrain files I have so far?

The snow may be too muddy - any thoughts?

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	16-11-2004 00:00									#185
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I like the new winterized trees as well as the snow tiles. This muddy touch makes the snowy terrain look very realistic!

	16-11-2004 00:46									#186
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Looks like a lovely war!

Great job, Fairline!

	16-11-2004 01:34									#187
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Ja, ein frischen und frohlichen krieg !

One point though, some of the ocean squares are "unfrozen" while others are not. Why's that?

	16-11-2004 02:11									#188
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well the ocean (by Catfish BTW and mighty fine it is) is unfrozen while I've made the terrain2 river tiles frozen. Nemo made large rivers and some lakes from ocean terrain, and I guess large rivers would still be free-flowing in winter.

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	16-11-2004 03:02									#189
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Damn fine work!

I will tweak them and see what I can do, Fairline...
Though those trees would be hard to improve upon!

I notice the lack of my WW2 cities -
Do you want new cities made for RF-ToT?
The suburbs I am making are closely following Nemo's layout;
So I could create larger chunky city graphics.
If you have cities planned yourself, I can hang fire and just make the burbs!

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	16-11-2004 03:36									#190
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There are 2 types of trees Curt - I'm using these I've made here for the terrain2 ones which lose their leaves in winter. The Nemo fir trees in terrain1 are what I'm after replacing; they need to be smaller to scale them with my winter trees and Fav. Flight's summer terrain2 trees. Don't worry - I'll have a go at these myself.

As for your cities - they are excellent. I haven't got round to replacing the Wcities file is the only reason they are missing from the screenies. I'd really appreciate those suburbs as well Cheers mate!

	16-11-2004 03:39									#191
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What can I say? All screenies looks stunning. I regreat missing the Red Front demogame. I'll be looking forward to this ToT version though.

	16-11-2004 03:43									#192
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	16-11-2004 05:12									#193
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@Arthedain:

I have not forgot about a city task you set me -

I am working on fastasy units just now (as well as the RF burbs!)...so I will get your cities done too!

	16-11-2004 05:12									#194
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The winter terrain looks great, really. The mud is a good representation of the actual terrain. As for the ocean terrain, did the bonus tiles have any different shield or food bonus during the winter? If so, and the bonus was lower, would patches of floating ice be a nice touch?

	16-11-2004 05:13									#195
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quote: Originally posted by fairline There are 2 types of trees Curt - I'm using these I've made here for the terrain2 ones which lose their leaves in winter. The Nemo fir trees in terrain1 are what I'm after replacing; they need to be smaller to scale them with my winter trees and Fav. Flight's summer terrain2 trees. Don't worry - I'll have a go at these myself.

If you can mail me the winter tree examples - I will do my best, old chap!

	16-11-2004 15:25									#196
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling @Arthedain: I have not forgot about a city task you set me - I am working on fastasy units just now (as well as the RF burbs!)...so I will get your cities done too!

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Sounds good, I've no problem with waiting.

	16-11-2004 15:51									#197
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Somewhat modified Kz camp by Stephan (jim panse):

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	16-11-2004 19:25									#198
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It looks great, Gareth

I´d only favour to exclude the whale resource gfx from teh ocean sqaures ...

	16-11-2004 19:54									#199
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Hmm... after taking a close look at that screenshot, the river mouths look odd if they are non-frozen (at least not if it goes from frozen to non-frozen in a straight line....)

	16-11-2004 21:08									#200
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@Curt: No sweat mate, I'm on the case myself with the fir trees, thanks all the same

@Nestor: good spot, I forgot to edit the rivermouths when I was doing the rivers

@Jim P. I think I'll replace them with ice as Harry suggests. An ice-block with each ocean square would be too much so this will be a good solution. I have yet to look at any of the resources BTW.

	18-11-2004 02:19									#201
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A sample of the new graphics: a herd of Zis-5 and -6 trucks, ubiquitous beasts of burden of the glorious CCCP!

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	18-11-2004 03:44									#202
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Oh wow, the shading and detail is excellent. They completely match your other vehicles.

	18-11-2004 05:17									#203
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Damn fine work, as ever!

Fairline, I have been working hard on cities for Bitterfrost ToT, and feel I have reached a new level of quality.

If you can spare me a week or less, I will get cracking on totally new WW2 cities,
using the PSP layers and spray can effects that I have went mental with!

I feel the new unit graphics for RF deserve some cities of maximum quality!

What say you, comrade?

	18-11-2004 05:24									#204
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Just to prove my words!
The results of my layer addiction! (ooer!)

	18-11-2004 05:31									#205
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Sweet! Thatch!

	18-11-2004 05:46									#206
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Those are truly superb Curt, simply fantastic

Please take all the time you need if it means you'll reach this level of quality.

Suggestion for the Russian cities: Can you include a Russian Orthodox church as the centrepiece of the big cities (like those found in the Kremlin - St Basil's etc). I've got plenty of pics if you need them.

	18-11-2004 06:08									#207
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Best looking little Potemkin villages that I have ever seen.

The thatched roofs look ready to receive Molotov cocktails.

	18-11-2004 07:26									#208
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Many thanks chaps!
Catfish and Favouredflight are the inspiration...
And it's a real blast making these ToT graphics!

I have some Soviet or Eastern bloc cities done, I will do some tweaks and make a pepper-pot cathedral version.

Then it is onto the 3rd Reich cities!

	18-11-2004 16:09									#209
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@ Fairline: Great trucks!

@ Curt: Marvellous cities! You just keep on improving 'em. Mind if I maybe use some of those for Bitterfrost for my own scen?

	18-11-2004 16:26									#210
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@Arthedain:

Hope you don't mind but:
I would like to keep these cities exclusive till I get Bitterfrost released...

But I am on the case with your request!