12-02-2005 06:06									#181
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Yeah the old girl can go on and on if you want to hear the whole back story

I just listened/read/responded to 45 minutes worth of dialogue after escaping the first base. Wow.

Oh... anyone else notice a bit of a "start the game with an escape" obsession going on here?

-Jam

	12-02-2005 06:27									#182
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I'd love to play this game.

But I'm loathe to give LucasArts anymore of my money after the Sam & Max debacle.

	12-02-2005 07:06									#183
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Unfortunately, you have to play all the way through the first level (and, to a lesser extent, the second level) each time, which takes a while and isn't much fun the second time.

	12-02-2005 11:08									#184
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Peragus is the one thing discouraging me from playing another character.

	12-02-2005 14:07									#185
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it seemed a little tedius. Taris was more fun. People complained about Taris because they couldn't be a jedi. But I found doing stuff like bounties and dueling with bandak starkiller (he's tough) fun.

I was going to take my comments the game was too easy back. Because I did face 2 halfway challenging battles, but then the game got really easy again after those battles. The battles were against mercenaries. I won't spoil the specifics. Although one of those battles was because I was foced to use that computer specialist guy- the one who calls you general. He sucks ass in combat. He doesn't have the dexterity to give him a range weapon, and not enough hitpoints to go the front line. Oh well.

and I finally got a light saber. Though I didn't miss it much. My melee weapons were pretty bad ass. But my doublebladed light saber does more damage. What can I say.

Anyone know anything about hth combat? it actually looked like I did more damage with my hth combat than with my melee weapons! . But the difference may be I can use 2 melee weapons (I always use 2 weapon fighting), and I don't thing you get 2 attacks with hth. Or do you?

I'm a very combat orientated character this time.

I started with str 16, dext 16, and constitution 16. . You can guess what all the other stats were. As I mentioned, nothing stands in my way now. I my strength is now 21, dext 19, const 18.

In any case, I'm having more fun since I got off peragus. I finally got to explore some outdoor areas. Though the exploring is limited. Very linear this game is. It certainly is no morrowind. Sigh. but that's okay. This game is good in a different way. I'm having a lot of fun, trying to figure out what's going to happen in the story.

	12-02-2005 15:30									#186
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Its like Planescape - story, setting and character more important than freedom.

I thought Pelagus was alright. Some original ways of dealing with the "get this, go there" set up, some kookie characters and the fact that there's dead people everywhere who have left only recordings.

-Jam

	12-02-2005 16:23									#187
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Its like Planescape - story, setting and character more important than freedom. -Jam

Like all RPGs I like.

	12-02-2005 16:23									#188
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I soooo want this game. Unfortunately there aren't enough 'suppliers' at the moment.

	12-02-2005 21:15									#189
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quote: I was going to take my comments the game was too easy back. Because I did face 2 halfway challenging battles, but then the game got really easy again after those battles. The battles were against mercenaries. I won't spoil the specifics. Although one of those battles was because I was foced to use that computer specialist guy- the one who calls you general. He sucks ass in combat. He doesn't have the dexterity to give him a range weapon, and not enough hitpoints to go the front line. Oh well.

Use him unarmed. He ROCKS unarmed.

	12-02-2005 23:08									#190
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To add some more challenge to the game, I've decided to use every character unarmed, and when I get a lightsaber, to only use force powers and unarmed. It's been pretty tough so far.

	12-02-2005 23:45									#191
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I forgot to take the screen shot of me with the axe.

The first time I seen an Axe in Kotor (don't remember one in the first game). It's pretty cool looking. Though it has like a -2 to hit. I found my lightsaber does more damage though.

back to playing.

I want to play it fast to find out what happens, but I also want to take my time to enjoy the game. Because it won't be as fun the second time around. Though I'll definately play this game as a dark side consular next time. Right now I'm a light side guardian.

I'm still not sure how to use those stances.

And one complaint I have is those offensive/grenadier settings. They appear to reset! One of those battles against the mercenaries was tough because the computer specialist kept charging in. There's one area with several large groups of them. After I defeated one, I want to rest and get my force points back. But he goes charging in. I said screw it, left him dead (unconcious) in the grass, while I retreated to rest up for the other battles. I did them without him. He sucks ass.

	12-02-2005 23:47									#192
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Right now I'm using the old woman, and handmaidan (actually I'm forced to use mandalroe right now). handmaiden is pretty bad ass in melee.

And I like the old woman because of the bonus to xp. And the fact she can cast stuff on herself and it affects you. . That is beyond cool. I've been wearing full armour, and having her cast knight speed, force shield, battle meditation, energy resistance, and knight valor.

p.s. it does seem like they improved the human ai a little bit. They seem to use mandalorian melee shields more, and throw grenades more. That's why the mercs were halfway tough. But all the creatures are pathetic.

	13-02-2005 04:41									#193
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike I soooo want this game. Unfortunately there aren't enough 'suppliers' at the moment.

I went and paid full price because Obsidian rock. And now I'm too sick to play (Damn flu)

-Jam

	13-02-2005 07:10									#194
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident Right now I'm using the old woman, and handmaidan (actually I'm forced to use mandalroe right now). handmaiden is pretty bad ass in melee. And I like the old woman because of the bonus to xp. And the fact she can cast stuff on herself and it affects you. . That is beyond cool. I've been wearing full armour, and having her cast knight speed, force shield, battle meditation, energy resistance, and knight valor. p.s. it does seem like they improved the human ai a little bit. They seem to use mandalorian melee shields more, and throw grenades more. That's why the mercs were halfway tough. But all the creatures are pathetic.

I agree. Creatures are teh suck, but I guess that is more realistic.

	13-02-2005 14:36									#195
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whew, lot of content in this game. This game may be larger than KOTOR1, people were saying it was shorter. maybe it seems longer because there is more dialogue. That's why it's taking me a while to get through this game. I'm trying to read everything, and do every single quest (light side only of course)

And I have found a little bit of challenge lately. Not my main character mind you- he's still industructable. It's funny, his hitpoints almost never go below maximum. He's completely immune to all damage it seems.

No what I found challenge in, was more parts where you weren't allowed to use your main character. It's kind of annoying, but I do like it because it does have more challenge. So I like and dislike it at the same time. I won't get into details, but there are times when I was forced to use only Atta or whatever his names (I hate him, so I never use him) for a fight. That battle required me to use a few evasive maneuvers. And another sequence where I could only use 2 characters and not my main character. Although that would have been a lot easier, had I not missed the droid sitting right next to the entrance. . I could have disabled many things. But that's okay, I learned alot about hit and run tactics. Oh and another sequence before that when you can only use Mira. Again, hit and run tactics saved the day.

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	13-02-2005 14:37									#196
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I forgot to post my screen shot. I use a light saber now, but I just wanted to show off the axe. axes are just cool.

	13-02-2005 14:39									#197
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dammit, I uploaded the wrong screen shot. let me try one more time.

yeah you guys already playing the game probably saw this stuff, this if for the lurkers, and those who haven't bought the game yet.

Because us PC users have the ability to post screen shots, unlike x-box users.

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	13-02-2005 20:38									#198
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There is something strange going on.

I was on Onderendondenon's moon, Dxan I think it's called, and

spoiler(highlight to read): As I received the last part for my lightsabre from the Mandalore, I returned to the Ebon Hawk to build it. However, I encountered there this new character apparently who tried to kill me etc., you know what happens. When we had put her into the infirmary, I suddenly received a green doublebladed lightsabre, just like the one in the flashback from the Council meeting where I was exiled, for no apparent reason. So I crafted a singlehanded lightsabre, green too, with the parts, to get the exp, for the old (now one-handed, heh) lady to use, and to use with a balanced short one for added effect. Where did that extra sabre come from?!

Edit: What's the earliest you've made it to Light Mastery, btw? I just did after having a chat with the little R2D2 copy after the incident I detailed above. Ondrendonderondenoon is the first planet I've visited after Telos.

	13-02-2005 23:50									#199
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I think I got light mastery on Telos just before I visted that moon.

spoiler(highlight to read): as for the lightsaber, I'm not sure if I read you correctly. You get one light saber from that woman who attacks you. Who is a slave of the master. She is force adept, and I think she uses a light saber (though I have yet to use her in my party, so I'm not sure. That was a 2 handed light saber. And then at the same time I made a 1-handed light saber. Though I ended up using the 2 handed one (which was yellow for me- I still haven't found a color crystal to change the awful color). So you should have 2 light sabers at this point. Though you will find more from here on out.

	14-02-2005 02:10									#200
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spoiler(highlight to read): How could I have received the sabre of the Force Adept woman who I nearly killed? Her sabre was a singlebladed one with a red crystal, I received a doublebladed green lightsabre. It just doesn't match. To put it clearly: 1. I fight the force adept whatshername, who has a red singlebladed lightsabre. 2. I receive magically a doublebladed green sabre 3. I construct a singlebladed green sabre. The woman, besides, says herself that I broke her own lightsabre. The doublebladed one, which works, can't be hers.

	14-02-2005 02:44									#201
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My wife just gave this to me as a V-Day gift.

	14-02-2005 02:44									#202
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spoiler(highlight to read): And now I freed that Doctor Ghent from a murder charge, and after the quest was complete and I was given the quest to get the holodiscs back, I received ANOTHER doublebladed lightsabre, this time a green one. WTF? Not that it won't go well with Val..ais? Whatever the name was, she gets to use it.

	14-02-2005 03:21									#203
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@ kassi

spoiler(highlight to read): once you've collected all the lightsaber parts, where you used to get lightsaber parts (like from Visas' broken lightsaber) you now get actual lightsabers

	14-02-2005 03:25									#204
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Ah. That makes sense. It allows you to get it/them even if you go through the areas in a different order. Clever, even though it'll mean I'll have oodles of them by the time I'm finished.

	14-02-2005 03:32									#205
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I wish that KotOR II would have covered more of the old characters.

spoiler(highlight to read): Juhani, Jolee Bindo, Zaalbar, Mission

	14-02-2005 15:20									#206
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I have more screen shots.

the plot is confusing in places, maybe some more will be explained at the end. But at one point they made reference to the enemy ship's name, and I had not heard that name before.

I know I'm pretty close to the end, but I'm still not sure how much more exploring I have to do. But I'll quit for the night. I need sleep. If I knew I was super close to the end, I'd finish it up.

My character is so unstoppable it isn't funny. I have a strength of 39 with my equipment. It can get even higher with stims and force powers.

I did 180 damage in a critical hit (power attack of course). I killed a dark jedi in one hit.

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	14-02-2005 15:22									#207
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one more screenie. I just thought dual weilding axes was cool. Yeah, I have a thing for axes.

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	14-02-2005 16:59									#208
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear I wish that KotOR II would have covered more of the old characters. spoiler(highlight to read): Juhani, Jolee Bindo, Zaalbar, Mission

It does, a little bit in a mehish way.

	14-02-2005 23:08									#209
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More ness:

spoiler(highlight to read): I'm on Nar Shaddaa. I have taken up the task of sorting out the freighter hijacking from Vogga, and according to the little annoying squealy thing the Exchange does not like me, but regardless I have yet to get a whiff of them. I need to take them on so that I can sort the freighter situation out, which will in turn let me get some quests done and probably get that transponder card for the new ID of the Ebon Hawk. On top of that, I have located and gotten rid of two of the mysterious signal transponders, but my search for them has run dry as I can't find any more of them. I suspect this is the straw that would break the Exchange's back, but I've gone through all the droids around and I haven't found any more of the modules. I've destroyed the swoop racer droid and I've removed the module from the pazaak den droid. What am I supposed to do next? This game needs some fine-tuning in the "what the hell was I going to do now, again?" department.

	14-02-2005 23:47									#210
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my game looks really dark in those screen shots. Is the game that dark for you guys? Both KOTOR's have always been dark, especially in caves.

And yeah I like the blue color light saber. There's a ton of new colors avaiable though. . I especially like the orange.