08-01-2005 01:52									#151
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What's to stop the player from simply disbanding these units in SE Asia cities and building their army there? Why would you need to bother sending the caravans back to the home islands at all?

	08-01-2005 01:53									#152
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If you include the type-4 Chi-To and the Type-4 Ha-To make them very expencive, beacause very few of them were completed.

	08-01-2005 03:19									#153
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quote: Originally posted by GePap I just got an idea that I have never seen, but could be very effective to simulate Japan's immense need of foreign goods- make a lot of Japanese units, specially ships, somce planes, and tanks VERY expensive, except for cargo ships, which should be very cheap: This means that Japan's innitial military is difficult to replace due to cost- then, grant Japan a lot of free event created caravans as they conquer South East Asia, and then more as events every few turns-obviously the Japanese player can ferry these caravans homeward to convert into units. This makes being able to send these caravans to japan the difference between anemic military production, and production able to compete with immense US production. This also means that if the AI is able to cut off the shipping lanes with subs or by taking certain islands, Japanese military production suffers dramatically. Obviously, if the AI could be made to use thse caravans correctly, the ability of a US player to choke Japan off by destroying its shipping lanes would make victory far easier. I don't know if that is very possible.

It's a good idea, but the AI probably won't get the caravans on ships. And it would be a lot of micro-management for the human player. An incentive approach with immobile sea units might be a way to go. If the Japs kill an American ship then the Japs get money and vice versa. The ships could pop up in certain parts of the map where you would have to protect them. New ships are only created once the old ones die.

	08-01-2005 04:24									#154
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Good idea, i know in the board game "Axis and Allies europe" there are allied convoys that the germans could capture.

	08-01-2005 05:00									#155
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Finally, why not a spot for the Matilda II? It was very commonly used by Commonwealth forces in the theater once they were no good for the western front, but could easily beat any Japanese tanks that took the field in any useful numbers.

The only use of the Matilda II in the Pacific Theatre was by three Australian tank battalions in 1944-45 where it was used as an infantry support tank. The Sherman alone should be suficent to model Allied armour, especially given that the war in the Pacific Theatre was largely an infantry war.

	08-01-2005 05:01									#156
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didn't the australians use m3 lee/grants long after they were replaced by m4 shermans?

	08-01-2005 13:28									#157
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Thanks for the advice, GePap. It's certainly worth considering. Well, here's my beta ToT units file (in gif format here), so let me know what you think.

@fairline: Sorry, but I didn't read your info on your ToT units existence, so I did use MGE units with cleared tops, but they fully retain the sigs.

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	08-01-2005 13:29									#158
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Note that the empty slots are intended for when I find a Yamato-class Battleship and a USS Enterprise (and I don't mean the Star Trek ship).

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@fairline: Clarification: I didn't read your info before I finished the file; it wasn't deliberately ignored. I can see a misunderstanding in the previous wording

	08-01-2005 18:30									#160
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The F6F was a very fine fighter, but does it really deserve 2 slots in your units.gif?

The A-bomb certainly looks impressive. However, I find the sight of one heading for its target somewhat hard to believe. There it is, in the middle of the Pacific, apparently held up by levitation and propelled by the wind.

You might consider doing what another developer did. He used a B-29 icon, added some red paint to wing and rudder surfaces to distinguish it from a regular B-29 and labelled it "Atomic Bomber". It performed just like a nuclear missile.

	09-01-2005 04:37									#161
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quote: Originally posted by Broken_Erika didn't the australians use m3 lee/grants long after they were replaced by m4 shermans?

Yeah. In 1942-1943 the Australian Army had no less then three armoured divisions equiped with M3 Grants. However, they never left Australia, with the armoured units which deployed to the Pacific in 1944-45 re-equiping with Matildas before leaving (it was, correctly, believed that the lighter and better armoured Matilda was a superior tank for jungle warfare and the Matildas performed excelently in New Guinea, Bouganville and Borneo).

Australia never adopted the M4 Sherman, with tests showing that the Churchill was better suited to Australia's needs in the Pacific. At the end of the war our first battalion of Churchills were en-route to Australia from Britain.

BTW Patine, I wouln't include the Sentinal tank - only 90 were ever built, and they were only ever used in training units as the M3 was freely available by the time the Sentinal design was finalised. Only a single Sentinal AC4 was ever built, and it was only developed for experimental purposes (the Brits were interested in finding out how a 17 pounder gun would work on a medium tank chasis. The excelent performance of the AC4 lead them to develop the famous Sherman Firefly).

I also wouldn't include the Wirraway as it had no impact on the war whatsoever.

If you want to include several Australian units, my sugestion would be that you have an AIF infantry unit and a Milita infantry unit - while the AIF was composed of volunteers the Milita was a conscripted Army used for the defence of Australia and New Guinea (it was almost as good as the AIF though, so the stats should be the same).

The B-17 should be replaced with the B-24 - after early 1942, no B-17s were sent to the Pacific, with the longer ranged B-24 proving to be the better bomber in the theatre.

	09-01-2005 06:14									#162
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B-24's are hard to find, there are plenty of b-17's, b-25's and b-29 but very few good b-24's

	09-01-2005 06:16									#163
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this is the only b-24 i ever found

anyone up for a remake?

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	09-01-2005 07:11									#164
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@AGRICOLA: The redundant F6F was actually an error of copying and pasting from the source files; another US plane was supposed to take one of those slots. As for the A-bomb, I think you're probably right about the whole imagery; an altered B-29 would likely do better.

@Case: I should probably adjust my layout of Australian units, to be honest. Maybe replacing the AC4 with the M3 and the Wirraway with the Kittyhawk (if I can find good ones of those).

@Broken_Erika: Thanks for the B-24. Like she said: anyone up for a remake? Please?

Thanks to all three of you for your help!

	09-01-2005 09:17									#165
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quote: Except they will be bitmaps (more colours!) and that your scenario should be made with the default ToT sprites deactivated. (Catfish provides a cool file that does this on his 'Catfish's Cave' site)

Can someone please give me a link to Catfish's Cave to find this utility? It's not on the Apolyton, CivFanatics, or Cradle of Civilization links list. Thanks!

	09-01-2005 09:38									#166
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quote: Originally posted by Patine Can someone please give me a link to Catfish's Cave to find this utility? It's not on the Apolyton, CivFanatics, or Cradle of Civilization links list. Thanks!

2nd google hit when looking for catfish cave:

http://users.tpg.com.au/jpwbeest/

	09-01-2005 12:10									#167
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I found a great utility for disabling terrain animations there, but nothing that disables unit animations (and the built-in lockout option doesn't work either). Does anyone know of a utility or other way to lockout unit animations in ToT?

	09-01-2005 12:12									#168
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@ Patine

Do you still need the Ki-43 and the Ki-61?

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	09-01-2005 12:22									#169
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I could possibly find room for them, as I may not use as many tanks in the end. Even if I don't, thanks anyway for the help!

	09-01-2005 21:24									#170
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quote: Originally posted by Patine I found a great utility for disabling terrain animations there, but nothing that disables unit animations (and the built-in lockout option doesn't work either). Does anyone know of a utility or other way to lockout unit animations in ToT?

If you choose the .SPR override, none of the unit sprites are used, so that'll work, unless you want to use the static sprites.

Just mention in the readme and/or title text that people should turn off unit/terrain animation in the game menu.

	09-01-2005 22:06									#171
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you mean there is more to disabling the animations than deleting every .spr file in the ToT directory?

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It worked! I deleted all the sprites and turned on .SPR override and the unit animations ceased. Thanks, Merc and Erika!

Now, does someone have a good B-24, Yamato-class BB, USS Enterprise, Kittyhawk, and Matilda II. Those are all I need to complete my units file.

	10-01-2005 04:29									#173
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quote: Originally posted by Broken_Erika you mean there is more to disabling the animations than deleting every .spr file in the ToT directory?

Do you have a short memory?

quote: Originally posted by Patine It worked! I deleted all the sprites and turned on .SPR override and the unit animations ceased. Thanks, Merc and Erika!

Of course all of the sprites will disappear if you delete them all. However, doing that only solves the problem on your machine. Not everybody wants to delete their sprites and should not be instructed to do so. As Mercator said, what you need to do is enable the .SPR file override in the Cheat menu (which disables the static.spr file only) and provide instructions in your readme file for the user to turn off animated units under Graphics Options. If you want to kill the animated units completely (without removing them), you can set the individual unit .SPR file override flags (rules.txt) to 1. Look at Curt's Bitterfrost II scenario. He did it perfectly. If you use that dummy resource.spr file, you can completely forget about animated terrain as well.

	10-01-2005 04:59									#174
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Take your pick,
i didn't make any of them

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	10-01-2005 05:04									#175
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Yamato and Nagato

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	10-01-2005 05:27									#176
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@Catfish: Thanks for the tip on properly disabling unit animations in a broader sense.

@Broken_Erika: Thanks for the tanks and ships.

	10-01-2005 07:02									#177
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Erika, are any of the tanks with no identifying labels with the sig a Matilda II? I get the feeling I may already have one.

	10-01-2005 07:18									#178
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first 2 are matilda 2's, the rest are churchill's, take your pick of which one you like best an use it

	10-01-2005 07:26									#179
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Thanks a lot, Erika! Now, I'm almost set. Could someone please slip me (or let me know the location of) a Kittyhawk with RAAF markings and a USS Enterprise? That should complete my units file. I'd appreciate any help in that regard. Thanks!

	11-01-2005 06:24									#180
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Say, Erika (or anyone else for that matter), could you also make or find me a good graphic of a Model 94? I like that picture on Page 5 (and the melodramatic narrative). I also need a P-40 and a B-24 (both devoid from the graphics showcase in modern format for some reason). Those, along with the two above, are all I need to complete my units file. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks!