30-12-2004 05:35									#391
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie quote: Dont eat that steak, save the money and give it to the victims. I will do both. I can afford it, because I did not spend 1000 times more on killing people who did't deserve it, while angering my friends in the process. Good night

this is pathetic.

	30-12-2004 05:36									#392
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quote: Originally posted by Tripledoc Regarding the animals. I wonder what would happen if humans learned to use their sixth sense. I am sure it is there. It is just buried very deep by all this constant conditioning.

It's scary when humans are more stupid than animals.

	30-12-2004 05:39									#393
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident stupid post. what do we do? Cut off all funding to our troops in Iraq so we can provide humanitarian aid. That will lead to the deaths of over 100,000 soldiers in Iraq.

Not at all - you get out of Iraq and things will start to improve there.

Then use some of those untold resources to help with the disaster.

	30-12-2004 05:41									#394
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Not at all - you get out of Iraq and things will start to improve there. Then use some of those untold resources to help with the disaster.

yeah things will improve when they turn into a fundamentalist goverment.

	30-12-2004 05:42									#395
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I guess this thread shows who the real trolls are.

	30-12-2004 05:44									#396
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Not at all - you get out of Iraq and things will start to improve there. Then use some of those untold resources to help ith the disaster.

Sure, a nice little civil war ending up with a new dictator (maybe even saddam again) are better than the current situation .

Don't worry, the nessecary money will be available when they are needed.

	30-12-2004 05:46									#397
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident yeah things will improve when they turn into a fundamentalist goverment.

Iran is quite peaceful.

	30-12-2004 05:50									#398
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Iran is quite peaceful.

Can't remember anyone that have claimed that.

Still, don't worry, adequate help will be going to the damaged areas.

Please find another thread to express your disgust of freeing the Iraqui people.

	30-12-2004 05:59									#399
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Iran is quite peaceful.

they attacked Iraq in the 80's.

	30-12-2004 06:06									#400
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Iran is quite peaceful.

Damn. Didn't notice the q/n shift. Anyway, don't change anything - find another tread

	30-12-2004 06:12									#401
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident they attacked Iraq in the 80's.

Wrong again - Iraq attacked Iran for control of the Shatt Al Arab waterway.

Why not quit while you're behind.

	30-12-2004 06:17									#402
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Wrong again - Iraq attacked Iran for control of the Shatt Al Arab waterway. Why not quit while you're behind.

Are you VJ's DL ? Make your own thread about this matter

	30-12-2004 06:24									#403
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if you are going to criticise the U.S., do it about this.

http://cnn.usnews.printthis.clickab...&partnerID=2004

U.S. embassy made earthquake/tsunami survivors who had no money pay for their photos for their new passports . Luckily the couple in the above article had an ATM card despite losing everything else so they could pay for a new passport photo.

	30-12-2004 06:26									#404
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse He's thinking of typhoons.

that's it

	30-12-2004 06:26									#405
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The animals story is at least part bull. On Dutch and Belgian TV I've seen several reporters testifying that both human and animal remains are scattered all over the place, at least one of those reports came from Sri Lanka. But I would indeed not be surprised if there are disproportionately fewer animal victims than human ones. Animals do tend to have better senses (literally and figuratively).

quote: Originally posted by Colon The loss of life wasn't intentional in this disaster (not even by neglect), in the case of 911 it was. And as a rule of the thumb intentional killing is much more serious.

As an almost-victim of both (IRA attack, severe storm and plane crash -- yes, I'm a true disaster magnet ), I can tell you that to the people who are hit it doesn't make a squat of difference. They both kill you just as dead... And if you happen to survive, in both cases you're just grateful that you did, pick up the pieces and move on (or not and get stuck in a trauma, but that's just not my style )

But as has been noticed, there's no point in comparing the two situations. They're equally horrible in different ways.

	30-12-2004 06:30									#406
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quote: Originally posted by GePap The King needs a replacement palace

Just abandon the capital city. It's not like there's much pop anyway, after the quake.

	30-12-2004 07:18									#407
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel The only problem could be the drilling equipment, that would be attached to the bottom of the ocean in some way. But even then, the tide is like a meter high or something in mid ocean, it's like a relatively large wave or something. * Azazel crosses his fingers for all the people, and esp. germanos' relatives.

In 1964, my ship, the USS Navarro APA-215 was returning to Long Beach when the Alaska Earthquake hit. We were some 200 to 300 miles north of Hawaii and the wave was noted in our log at around 1:00 AM and it was only 3.5 high. We were told that when it hit Hawaii it was over 20 feet high.

	30-12-2004 07:30									#408
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Guess that you mean 3.5 feet - 3.5 meters would have been noticed :-)

It's a little redicoulous to talk about tsunami detection - you cannot detect a tsunami, but you can predict such one if there are earthquakes in sea areas. Even landside earthquakes can make tsunamis if subsea areas are affected.

	30-12-2004 07:37									#409
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This thread really is pathetic. I can see some of these European posters must have been jumping for joy as they heard about the escalating death toll, as it gives them another reason to troll. That people would turn a thread about such a vast catastrophe into a US bashing thread is pathetic.

	30-12-2004 07:43									#410
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi This thread really is pathetic. I can see some of these European posters must have been jumping for joy as they heard about the escalating death toll, as it gives them another reason to troll. That people would turn a thread about such a vast catastrophe into a US bashing thread is pathetic.

Why do you consider trolls to be only European?

	30-12-2004 07:45									#411
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi This thread really is pathetic. I can see some of these European posters must have been jumping for joy as they heard about the escalating death toll, as it gives them another reason to troll. That people would turn a thread about such a vast catastrophe into a US bashing thread is pathetic.

Some maybe, but not alll. Actually, isn't there a single democreature from US that now and then has abused this opportunity ?

Still, make your own thread if you want to bash eourpeans

	30-12-2004 07:49									#412
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Why do you consider trolls to be only European?

fair enough, trolls in general

	30-12-2004 07:59									#413
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The only trolls in this thread are VJ, Alva and some Americans, you for example Shi Huangdi who were trolled back by people including myself.

	30-12-2004 08:02									#414
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quote: Originally posted by GePap And Boris PWNZ DanS. Anyways, how long till we reach 100,000 dead?

Sometime tomorrow 30 Dec.

	30-12-2004 08:09									#415
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Why do you consider trolls to be only European?

yes, some of them are Australian

	30-12-2004 08:16									#416
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Guess that you mean 3.5 feet - 3.5 meters would have been noticed :-) It's a little redicoulous to talk about tsunami detection - you cannot detect a tsunami, but you can predict such one if there are earthquakes in sea areas. Even landside earthquakes can make tsunamis if subsea areas are affected.

Correct.

	30-12-2004 08:18									#417
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi This thread really is pathetic. I can see some of these European posters must have been jumping for joy as they heard about the escalating death toll, as it gives them another reason to troll. That people would turn a thread about such a vast catastrophe into a US bashing thread is pathetic.

Its not a troll at all.

The problem pointed to is defined by the OECD as lack of policy coherence. This is where one government policy undermines or works against another.

One example would be spending 177 million a day on the war in Iraq whilst offering only 10 million in aid to tidal wave survivors. Sumatra is a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism, perhaps the Afghanistan of tommorrow.

Another would be Europe spending 9 times as much on agricultural subsidies as they spend on aid to developing countries whilst closing their markets to developing country agricultural exports.

If you look at either case, its madness from an economic policy point of view.

Nor, btw, is it in tune with conservative free market economic policy.

	30-12-2004 08:59									#418
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Ok recap:

There is some stuff they can do to detect impending doom:
http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag153.htm

The US contributions have been generous and will go up. People are focusing on the number that the US government is giving, and not the total aide that will be rendered,especially considering our airlift capacity,the freedom of the seas provided by our navy which is going to allow everyone else that sends aide to actually send it,and the stuff on hand in the warships we are diverting to the Region which can provide fresh water from their desalinisation plants for example.

	30-12-2004 09:31									#419
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All right people, stop flaming or your backside will be toast.

@ Canada and everybody who chipped in.

	30-12-2004 09:54									#420
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quote: Originally posted by Ming America gives out more in total dollars in Aid each year then any other country in the world... a pretty stupid troll on your part

...and we rank DEAD LAST when it comes to humanitarian aid as a percentage of GDP.