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Hercules is offline Hercules
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Sep 2002
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  Old Post 29-03-2005 23:14
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Just as a technicality then, who should we vote for Lal?

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  Old Post 29-03-2005 23:33
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Voting for Lal atm, we can always change later.

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  Old Post 29-03-2005 23:58
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If our probe was returned it didn't go to KP. Our probe had two move points. I think it has been destoyed by Zak.

In the meantime Iwould like to stay on the good side of Yang because he discovers it (Doc: Air) in 2168.

No new techs but as Mart noted we will get Doc: Air in 2170 when Lal discovers it.

Oh and it was the Gaians who called the elections.
Lots of decisions this turn guys re builds.

Also what shall I put in KC (in the short term for the sea pod pop). Tree Farm, Research Hospital?

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Sorry, my error. there is a Commando probe team of ours in Enigma Machine. And we only ever had three, so...

I recommend a seaformer in KC, for constructing a tidal harnass on that energy bonus tile. O yes, of course, the pod pop. Whatever costs more I guess?

Again, we didn't receive SSF this turn while Yang, Lal and Morgans have it.

But if only Lal and Yang have it from the factions we have contact with, how can we receive it then? We need 3 infiltrated/pacted factions to have it before we receive IIRC?

Btw, we can see an IoD in the sea between our territory and Lals'. I gather that's roughly the position of the Spartan fleet near us then.

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  Old Post 30-03-2005 00:17
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The only Gaian sea base is below Deirdre's Memory somewhere around 55, 77. Should we go and steal a tech from Yang ? or head further north towards the Spartans ?

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  Old Post 30-03-2005 00:21
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I agree with building seaformer in KC. But first tree farm

Just popped the pod and we now have a Tree farm in KC.

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  Old Post 30-03-2005 00:37
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Woho!! Nicely done, Herc!

But for probing, there's simply no urge to go to the Spartans before we have enough probes on the move to make it successfull. And stealing a tech from Yang will cause vendetta, you know that.

Btw, have you already checked if Yang is near our borders again? the rover one move east, and then NW again?

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I am actually going to save the turn to let you guys have a look.

Where do we want that new colony pod to go? I am think of the high arid tile at 27,77 but it needs development. I guess the new colony should head toward the forest rich 34,66 tile.

btw take a look at the arid mineral tiles around Gooliplex. Three of them are giving two minerals as they are. Supply crawler heaven or what.

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Sure is there near Googlieplex, I'm awaiting the turn and will try to look at it during dinner.

O yes, did you know we have to rename Verres' Loft? Drogue seems to have a new gf.

And are we 'Hercules Geo' nowadays as faction leader.

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  Old Post 30-03-2005 02:33
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Some proposals:

- SE sliders to 40/20/40
- Hurry Heavens Gate production for 48 ec's
- Upgrade Heavens Gate scout to police scout for 10 ec's
- Hurry crawler in Kahlu Probe with 2 ec's
- Start former production in Googlieplex
- Start Childrens Creche in Snowflake's Haven
- Start former production in Rock-Paper-Scissors
- Put an RPS worker on the sea nut tile.
- Hercules Station: perhaps changing production to crawler?
- Change the forest worker in HS to 19,51.

O yes, Yang refuses to speak to us. The other two are rather polite in their refusals.

Edit: haven't checked yet if Snowflake's Haven won't riot with the slider change, the base grows next turn. But that could be solved by upgrading the scout there.

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  Old Post 30-03-2005 06:18
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Just reviewing the turn. It is not good we again did not receive any techs from our special ability.

Especially SFF. I would at least do more military units in RPS, and after we get Tree farm in EM - there too, after boosting production of course. And we can relocate now some crawlers for minerals in KC, Hercules great congratulations for such lucky pod popping

More details soon, this turn is really very full of events.

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Shortly about new base location. I thought it might be 31,67. Exactly the place the former is doing a road, which will be completed in 2166 - next turn. It is 5 tiles from Verres Loft, so we can establish that base next turn, having 1/3 move point left. The former may then serve as temporary garrison unit. We also need a COP ASAP.

This will use some of those forest tiles, but later we may create yet another coastal base somewhere to north-east. This 31,67 will cover the territory and 29,67 when with road connect the base to the road grid nicely.

If we do that base. A COP from SH if enters a flat 29,67 this turn, it will reach that new base in 2166. Then we do there a Police unit?
SH may do one more COP yet.

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Regarding Events

  • Our commando probe team in EM tells me, it has been interrogated and sent back home. Headquarter base is destination in that case.

Regarding moves, turn adjustements
  • As proposed:
    economy 40%
    psych 20%
    labs 40%
    This gives us +83 labs/turn and 49-13-3 = +33 EC/turn.
  • Remove stockpile energy from queue in KC after the Tree Farm. The bug works that way, that after facility or SP stockpile must NOT be in the queue. The queue should be empty.
  • I think to gain 1 mineral in KP we need to spend 3 EC, not only two.
  • Upgrades, as Geo proposed, HG and SH to police.
  • Garrison and Plasma Defender on monoliths - defending units.
  • Crawlers:
    Crawler 19,69 1 tile south then minerals.
    Crawler 19,71 1 tile south then minerals.
    Crawler 26,68 (near SH) 2 tiles south to 26,72 then nutrients.
    Crawler 26,66 1 tile south and then minerals. This is to get next turn the tile 28,74, which is forest on river or 30,74 so that first one later gets worked - better energy this way.
  • Former near SH do road then solar collector.
  • If KC places a worker on that sea energy resources, it has then total 6 psych, and no drone problems.
  • Proposed new buildings:
    EM - no change
    GX - no change
    Gplex - former
    HG - hurried
    HS - no change
    KP - no change
    KC - mineral pod, no change
    RPS - LIT, this is till we have SFF. Then we might make some 6-1-1 and 6-1-2
    SH - COP
    VL - Supply crawler

  • Let us consider
    - Do we build Hab Complexes and try to pop boom to size 14? or
    - Do we switch to FREE MARKET? sometime in the near future.

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Hab Complex

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How about free market for some limited time - in order to get a lot of energy for hurrying all those hab complexes? Then we switch back to Planned.
Anyone tried that?

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  Old Post 30-03-2005 12:56
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We should discuss the Free Market option for next turn. Not this turn, otherwise the tree farm in KC will not be completed afterall. I made that mistake in a game once.

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On eco damage

in tweeking I found that making a unhappy drone into a Librarian at KP the nutrients etc werelowered but the eco damage was zeroed also.

With the pact with Gaians I would try to improve the Eco situation.

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I think we better wait with FM 'till we have quite a bit of bases on pop 7 (like RPS and SH as well).

And I strongly suggest a crawler in HS, it finishes in two turns and will help getting the Childrens' Chreche production afterwards.

Btw, what's LIT Mart?

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Mmm, wouldn't that be a bit soon? Of course, in the meantime we can always use it for moving a former.

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  Old Post 30-03-2005 22:13
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Ok Changes made. CP heading for 31,67. However screwed up Cop from SH. Forgot it had just 1 MP not 2 and was taking it via Verre's Loft: well actually I was going to substitute it for the defender probe there. But it too has only 1 MP. rage.

Still a couple of moves left. The foil probe ? to where south ?

Do you really want to rush that Creche in HG, this turn.

Also we need to experiment and see what we could give to Gaia so that they can switch to Doc: Air. If successful they will be the third infiltrated faction with Doc: Air and we will get it. automatically.

If Morgan is researching NG then with tech swapping we might get choppers before Spartans.

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For Doc: Air? Both Doc: Flex and SFF. And we haven't got the latter.

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Yeah Of course, forgot.

Ha ha but Morgans could send Gaians SFF, (and we would get it too, hehe).

Actually I wonder why Morgan hasn't sent Gaians SFF yet.

When I think about it we don't have to wait for Gaian response just now we have a few turns in hand.

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No.

I got a message that Morgans would response to our proposal for 'buying' our votes within 24 hours... let's say another 12-18 before they come back to this. Spartans refused already, but Maniac puts Doc: Air Power on the selling table.

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Alright we'll wait.

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Ok Changes made. CP heading for 31,67. However screwed up Cop from SH. Forgot it had just 1 MP not 2 and was taking it via Verre's Loft: well actually I was going to substitute it for the defender probe there. But it too has only 1 MP. rage.

Maybe sent the commando probe team from EM for this turn only to Verres Loft and move the COP from Verres Loft with the colony pod?

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Neither the Morgans nor the Spartans are interested in 'buying' our votes. I recommend abstaining at this stage.

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End turn save. Turn 2165 sent to the Morgans.

Abstained and moved foil probe in a southerly direction.
Didn't move EM probe or Verre's loft. I guess we can wait one more turn. didn't want to leave Verre's loft exposed.

I know it didn't work.

Going to try and fix this annoying thing.

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I would take it one step further and vote for the Gaians

 
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