24-03-2005 03:32									#211
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I have this game now...it's annoying though...I just wanted to get it and didn't buy a game card and was going to do the 30 Day trial thing for now and then do the cards, but it wants it now arg.

	24-03-2005 03:35									#212
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean I always find it funny, when people speak about realism in this kind of a game. Where exactly are orcs, tauren or night elves rooted in reality? Asmodean

Er.. what I said has nothig to do with the "realism" of the games. It was a comment that while EQ2 had more potential, it failed even more superbly than WoW did, and is, despite it's higher potential, a worse game.


But "realism" is important in a fantasy game. It's not realism as in actual reality, but a consistency within the game world, universe, and setting.

	24-03-2005 03:42									#213
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Is the 30-Day Trial only in the CE?

	24-03-2005 13:41									#214
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse I have this game now...it's annoying though...I just wanted to get it and didn't buy a game card and was going to do the 30 Day trial thing for now and then do the cards, but it wants it now arg.

Is this true??

You can't play the first 30 days until you have entered credit card/game card information. If so, then this is bad, IMHO.

Asmodean

	24-03-2005 16:09									#215
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That's pretty standard. To create a game account you usually need to input details. They wont bill you if you cancel within the first month.

	24-03-2005 17:32									#216
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean I always find it funny, when people speak about realism in this kind of a game. Where exactly are orcs, tauren or night elves rooted in reality? Asmodean

Ludd is right. You are getting confused between "realism", which is faithfulness to the environment that has been created, and "naturalism", which is the state of being like our own personal experience, "what life on earth is like".

	24-03-2005 19:54									#217
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike That's pretty standard. To create a game account you usually need to input details. They wont bill you if you cancel within the first month.

I don't mind details...just the payment ones. Heck, those are even on a completely separate screen, not with the normal name/address ones.

	24-03-2005 20:01									#218
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike That's pretty standard. To create a game account you usually need to input details. They wont bill you if you cancel within the first month.

Still...since I have no intl credit card, this forces me to buy a prepaid game time card, when I get the game. That is mildly annoying, considering the games comes with a free month.

Asmodean

	24-03-2005 21:53									#219
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york quote: Originally posted by Asmodean I always find it funny, when people speak about realism in this kind of a game. Where exactly are orcs, tauren or night elves rooted in reality? Asmodean Ludd is right. You are getting confused between "realism", which is faithfulness to the environment that has been created, and "naturalism", which is the state of being like our own personal experience, "what life on earth is like".

Plus there ARE Night Elves in Duke's garden.

	24-03-2005 21:55									#220
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse I don't mind details...just the payment ones. Heck, those are even on a completely separate screen, not with the normal name/address ones.

Well it's just the way it's usually done. Blizzard aren't going to rob you.........other than making addictive games to get your money.

	24-03-2005 21:57									#221
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean Still...since I have no intl credit card, this forces me to buy a prepaid game time card, when I get the game. That is mildly annoying, considering the games comes with a free month. Asmodean

Hmm, haven't done WoW yet but usually any normal credit/debit card will work. Don't you have those in Denmark?

	25-03-2005 03:30									#222
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Hey, I didn't read this whole thread, 'cause it's kinda long, but I sorta have a question about this WoW... Does it have some sort of demo? I saw the free month thing above, but still, paying $50 for a game I might not even play for a month is kinda... steep, for a poor college student like me.

	25-03-2005 05:03									#223
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If you know someone who bought the collector's edition, they should be able to hook you up with a 10 day free trial. That's about it.

	25-03-2005 05:03									#224
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There's a demo if someone you know has the game.

	25-03-2005 05:19									#225
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That's interesting, Mike, I'll look around to see if anyone has one of those... They are all cheap bastards, mostly though, the people I know that have the game.

And thanks, Spike, master of the obvious. I've seen the game a couple times, and I still don't really know if it's worth it and if it can keep my attention for long enough to justify paying for it monthly. I seem to recall hearing somewhere something about a free trial period, so that's why I was wonderin'...

	25-03-2005 09:06									#226
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I've seen people selling the 10day free trials on Ebay.

	25-03-2005 13:51									#227
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Hmm, haven't done WoW yet but usually any normal credit/debit card will work. Don't you have those in Denmark?

We do, but that doesn't help me. Since this has to be payed on intl servers, it has to be done with VISA, MASTERCARD, etc. I don't have one of those

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	25-03-2005 16:04									#228
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quote: Originally posted by vovan That's interesting, Mike, I'll look around to see if anyone has one of those... They are all cheap bastards, mostly though, the people I know that have the game. And thanks, Spike, master of the obvious. I've seen the game a couple times, and I still don't really know if it's worth it and if it can keep my attention for long enough to justify paying for it monthly. I seem to recall hearing somewhere something about a free trial period, so that's why I was wonderin'...

There will be a free 7 day trial at some point. But that could be years away - it's usually what the game resorts to when the influx of new players drops. That could take a while with WoW.

	25-03-2005 16:06									#229
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean We do, but that doesn't help me. Since this has to be payed on intl servers, it has to be done with VISA, MASTERCARD, etc. I don't have one of those Asmodean

That's odd though. I have no credit card, but my normal debit card can be used to make VISA payments. I've used it for City of Heroes for instance, straight to an American company.

	26-03-2005 00:14									#230
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I like the game because you don't need the CD's to run it, maybe I'll sell the 10 day free trial

This is an interesting game. Once I start playing, I can play for hours. But the weird thing is I have no desire to start playing. There just isn't any motivation to fire the game up.

	26-03-2005 01:11									#231
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Then why keep playing once you start?

	26-03-2005 01:23									#232
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It's funny, I have had that with some games too. It's like, man I don't think I really wanna start the game up, but then if I am actually so bored that I do start the game, I'll play it for hours on end. Don't know why that happens...

	26-03-2005 01:40									#233
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Then why keep playing once you start?

addiction

	26-03-2005 03:27									#234
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If you are addicted why don't you want to start?

	26-03-2005 03:35									#235
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike There will be a free 7 day trial at some point. But that could be years away - it's usually what the game resorts to when the influx of new players drops. That could take a while with WoW.

Oops, didn't see this before... So you figure there will still be a lot of people playing the game in, say, July?

	26-03-2005 03:40									#236
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike If you are addicted why don't you want to start?

because there's no incentive to play. Yeah the gameplay is fun and addictive. But there's no story, no grand adventure. What's the point of building my character up to a high level?

	26-03-2005 03:51									#237
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike That's odd though. I have no credit card, but my normal debit card can be used to make VISA payments. I've used it for City of Heroes for instance, straight to an American company.

Has City of Heroes done this yet? I heard something about some kind of "invite your friend" trial, but it required having someone who already subscribes refer you, I think.

	26-03-2005 04:33									#238
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident because there's no incentive to play. Yeah the gameplay is fun and addictive. But there's no story, no grand adventure. What's the point of building my character up to a high level?

I don't get how you can find it addictive *and* lacking any point to play.

	26-03-2005 04:34									#239
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Has City of Heroes done this yet? I heard something about some kind of "invite your friend" trial, but it required having someone who already subscribes refer you, I think.

Did you quote the wrong post?

If you are asking about debit cards I think I already answered. If you are asking about free trials then yes there was one, but I don't think it's active at present. Check CoH.com.

	26-03-2005 04:57									#240
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er, yeah... I meant to quote this:

quote: There will be a free 7 day trial at some point. But that could be years away - it's usually what the game resorts to when the influx of new players drops. That could take a while with WoW.