02-05-2005 02:20									#121
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara He probably meant outside the U.S.

He's probably just a moron. Did you ever think of that?

	02-05-2005 02:20									#122
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I love how foriegners think that our Presidents care about them .

	02-05-2005 02:25									#123
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Why do we let Mormons use the Internet?

	02-05-2005 02:28									#124
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Funny how Imran seems to have such perfect knowledge of something he wasn't even alive to witness. Of course leaders care about what foreigners think of them. It matters for diplomacy.

Of course only conservatives could believe differently, since Bush is hell bent on ignoring the same lesson and wondering why other countries won't play ball.


And as usual DinoDoc reduces the thread to his level. It must pain him to be incapable of a proper response.

	02-05-2005 02:32									#125
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quote: Funny how Imran seems to have such perfect knowledge of something he wasn't even alive to witness. Of course leaders care about what foreigners think of them. It matters for diplomacy.

They only care of what their opposing members of diplomacy think about them. They don't give a toss at what the person on the street in another country thinks.

If Reagan cared what the European on the street thought, he would have unilaterally eliminated all nukes

	02-05-2005 02:32									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Luckily, American ignorance of the rest of the world has now begun to eat away at their power and, I must say, it is quite shocking to see the US in such a steep decline.

As Rummy said, there is OLD Europe and NEW Europe and the peoples who are still struggling for freedom. Only in the OLD world is the US viewed with dismay. The NEW Europe still understands greatness of this nation. Elsewhere, the peoples who long for freedom have been given a big shot in the arm and now have hope due to this president. The progress of freedom has been great in the last four years.

Decline?

The decline is in OLD Europe, i.e., anywhere, Europe or not, where socialism is strong.

	02-05-2005 02:36									#127
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The only part of New Europe that exists is the side of Mt. Etna and the island of Surtsey in Iceland. All the rest of Europe is pretty old.

	02-05-2005 02:37									#128
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Damn Ned you buy that freedom crap?

	02-05-2005 02:41									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon It must pain him to be incapable of a proper response.

Proper response to what exactly? From what I can see you haven't posted anything worthwhile in this thread or the "No WMD!" thread where you quite openly vented your painful ignorance of foreign policy and international realtions in general all to puff up some half backed conspiracy theory you had cooked up.

	02-05-2005 02:46									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Damn Ned you buy that freedom crap?

Ted, not only do I buy it, I think it is right and moral as well. I think this should have been the primary purpose of the UN from its inception -- the spread of freedom and democracy thru the world.

But then we let Uncle Joe join the party with a veto. That ruined the UN and the prospect for advancement of democracy for 60 years. But first with Ronald Reagan, and now with this president, the US is again pushing the world towards freedom.

	02-05-2005 02:46									#131
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quote: Proper response to what exactly? From what I can see you haven't posted anything worthwhile in this thread or the "No WMD!" thread where you quite openly vented your painful ignorance of foreign policy and international realtions in general all to puff up some half backed conspiracy theory you had cooked up.

You're all talk. You never post anything of substance, whether wrong or not, and everyone knows.

You're full of it. You're just a hollow man – a non-entity. At least people on your side like Ned can be bothered to post their own stuff, rather than sniping at others because they got nothing – like you.

You just got nothing.

	02-05-2005 02:48									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Damn Ned you buy that freedom crap?

Whenever Ned uses the word "freedom" a red flag should go up. In fact we should put a red flag up anyway, just to piss him off.

	02-05-2005 02:50									#133
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I should refer you to Oerdin so you can start a support group for people that hate my posts but still feel compelled to respond to me.

	02-05-2005 02:51									#134
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quote: I should refer you to Oerdin so you can start a support group for people that hate my posts but still feel compelled to respond to me

I don't hate you. I pity you.

	02-05-2005 02:53									#135
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I wonder if this is what it feels like to have my own marionette.

	02-05-2005 03:08									#136
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Not really.

You're pretty transparent.

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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Whenever Ned uses the word "freedom" a red flag should go up. In fact we should put a red flag up anyway, just to piss him off.

The people of the world know the meaning of a "red" flag.

Rivers of blood.

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quote: The people of the world know the meaning of a "red" flag. Rivers of blood.

Aha!! I have you sir!!

The rivers of blood we cause will be blue.

	02-05-2005 07:19									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Ned As Rummy said, there is OLD Europe and NEW Europe and the peoples who are still struggling for freedom.

Europe is old, much older than the US of A. Clearly Rummy doesn't know history and just pulled gibberish out of his rectum.

	02-05-2005 08:23									#140
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He's refering to different parts of Europe. New Europe is the parts of Eastern Europe that used to be under the iron curtain. Old Europe is obviously, the other part. It's not meant to be taken so literally.

	02-05-2005 08:26									#141
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@ UR

	02-05-2005 08:27									#142
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UR is right though. Rumsfeld talks out of his ass.

	02-05-2005 08:29									#143
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Yes, he does. But not in UR's example.

	02-05-2005 08:59									#144
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon UR is right though. Rumsfeld talks out of his ass.

1 + 1 = 2. I am the Pope.

	02-05-2005 23:06									#145
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The only part of New Europe that exists is the side of Mt. Etna and the island of Surtsey in Iceland. All the rest of Europe is pretty old.

I find it naive that people here still consider W. Europe our "allies". For Christ's sake, NATO is dead in everything but name, the current bunch in the White House are a bunch of old Cold Warriors whose worldview is quickly becoming outdated as we become a multi-polar world.

	02-05-2005 23:18									#146
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quote: Originally posted by Ned The people of the world know the meaning of a "red" flag. Rivers of blood.

The rivers of blood exist with or without the flag.

	02-05-2005 23:32									#147
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quote: Originally posted by Ned . The NEW Europe still understands greatness of this nation.

You mean like Poland?

From the International Herald Tribune:

Poland announced Tuesday that it would withdraw all its troops from Iraq once the United Nations mandate for the multinational force expires in December.

"At the time of the expiry of the Security Council's mandate, meaning at the end of 2005, the operations of the Polish stabilization mission should be finished," Szmajdzinski said after the cabinet meeting. He said that Prime Minister Marek Belka's government would not in the meantime be committing troops to any new missions. "Belka's government will surely not make any new military commitments," Szmajdzinski said. "We are carrying out an exit strategy."

It would receive little public support for any new military missions. Public opinion, which backed the war in Iraq, changed after Pope John Paul II openly criticized the war.

	02-05-2005 23:41									#148
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quote: It would receive little public support for any new military missions. Public opinion, which backed the war in Iraq, changed after Pope John Paul II openly criticized the war.

Someone should just nuke Poland. Those people have no imagination or capacity for individual thought, and since Lato retired they've sucked at football.

	03-05-2005 00:11									#149
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Europe is old, much older than the US of A. Clearly Rummy doesn't know history and just pulled gibberish out of his rectum.

Are you studiously ignorant of what Rummy meant or are you just pretending to be such?

	03-05-2005 00:30									#150
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It is interesting that Poland changed its viewpoint on the Iraq war in response to the the pope.