31-05-2005 17:58									#211
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Oh and England vs USA? Good to see some of the young talent. Was actually a pretty decent game. 2-1 was a little flattering to us I thought.

Tonights game is live on BBC. Woo.

	31-05-2005 19:19									#212
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Rather gutting for the club and fans who came in fourth, don'tcha think?

I've nothing against Everton but they aren't going to win the CL in 2006. It's more about the story reported in the media here (if it's true?) that there was a press release on the FA website from 15 months ago saying that if Chelsea or Arsenal won the CL and didn't get a qualifying spot then they would be put forward and the fourth placed team would play in the UEFA Cup.

If that is the case then what was good enough then should be good enough now. As it is the FA are trying to get an extra English club into the competition for next season and they will simply blame UEFA if it doesn't work.

I don't think much of UEFA for being stupid enough to not forsee that one day someone was going to win but not qualify for the next season but I think even less of the English FA who should stop ******** their secretaries and actually do some work for a change.

	31-05-2005 20:20									#213
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i don't think the FA are prepared to make everton miss out, especially because last time everton qualified for europe they couldn't enter because of liverpool.

	31-05-2005 21:01									#214
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like i've always said, 5 places.

BTW did you know it doesn't matter who the FA recommmend for the competition, UEFA can still over rule them and put another team in (won't happen thought)

	31-05-2005 21:13									#215
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Not according to UEFAs own rules about competition qualifying (that I linked to) they can't.

	31-05-2005 21:19									#216
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Mind you, my 'source' was a Liverpool fan site......:O)

	31-05-2005 23:39									#217
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everton might not win, but they would miss out on millions of pounds if they go somewhere.

	01-06-2005 01:06									#218
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Yeah, and those millions of pounds may be vital for the resurrection of Everton football (ie, the springboard).

As for US-England, nice to see the kids. Though the one thing that was evident is that none of the US's kids can freaking CROSS the ball! Jeez, Louise! And without Eddie Johnson, we don't have too much scoring power. McBride is ok, but his strengths are when someone can actually get him the ball in the 18.

The next game should be fun as well to watch!

	01-06-2005 01:55									#219
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yeah thats so true. its the same thing in the MLS. no one can cross the ball.

	01-06-2005 02:00									#220
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HT England 2 - 1 Colombia

David James ****s up again, thank god hes being subbed for Green second half.

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France 2 - 1 Hungary

Cisse scored for France, but they were on their heels for most of the second half. they won without dominating. but at least they scored some goals at home

	01-06-2005 04:12									#222
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3-2, robert green looked a bit uncertain, our defence (apart from ashley cole) was a bit low quality all game to be honest. michael owen hatrick though, great stuff

	01-06-2005 09:47									#223
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"Outside the Lines", an American sports news show had a story about ManU and Glazer, and MAN, the ManU fans before the FA Cup were crazy!

One of the favorite chants? "Malcolm Glazer... is gonna DIE, is gonna DIE!"



(not that it is that surprising)

	01-06-2005 09:51									#224
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that report was so shitty - shows us that americans have no clue about european soccer

	01-06-2005 09:56									#225
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Who actually was listening to the talking heads? I was interested in showing the protesters and the people who were at the FA Cup.

And if the Glaziers said anything at all.

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After England Colombia last night they showed the US commentary for Owen's goals.

Anyway good game again, kids are doing really well over there - even if the best players were clearly the established ones.

	02-06-2005 01:45									#227
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Now this is funny

http://spaces.msn.com/members/ManchesterBuccaneers/

	02-06-2005 13:54									#228
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That is funny. Especially the Forlan thing

	02-06-2005 14:48									#229
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OK kids, the Tapping Up verdict is in.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News...1497308,00.html

Chelsea - 3 points deducted (suspended) and £300,000 fine

Mourinho - £200,000 fine

Cole - £100,000 fine

I wonder if this represents the FA fine structure starting to come into line with the amounts of money these players etc. earn. It obviously means to show that it takes this tapping up very seriously. That said, a potential loss of points is obviously more of a punishment for Chelsea than the fine.

I still think that the entire thing is a bit of a farce. There was an article on the BBC yesterday about how everyone is 'tapping up' all the time and have been for years. People inside football seem to have been offended by Chelsea's arrogance in being so blatant about it more than the fact that it was going on.

	02-06-2005 15:18									#230
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Also, Womens Euro 2005 starts soon. If anyone's interested there is a fantasy football here:

http://en.wocofantasy.uefa.com/

	02-06-2005 15:37									#231
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The World Cup U21 is far more interesting

It's held in the Netherlands. Argentine, the US, Germany and Nigeria are some of the countries that will be playing in my home stadium

I'll be sure to go and see if all that American gushing about Freddy Adu is actually founded in reality

http://www.fifa.com/en/comp/index/0...p=WYC&year=2005

	02-06-2005 15:44									#232
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Nah, that's boring. No England.

	02-06-2005 16:04									#233
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH People inside football seem to have been offended by Chelsea's arrogance in being so blatant about it more than the fact that it was going on.

Yep, I think they've been hit 'hard' for the same reason Rio and United were. Both clubs gave out a 'F$%k you' attitude throughout proceedings.

The 3 points suspended is a clever one...

	02-06-2005 16:10									#234
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Might give some other teams a chance though... nah would have to be more than 3 points.

	02-06-2005 16:40									#235
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Ooh Reds...!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ool/4598737.stm

	02-06-2005 17:01									#236
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Btw, with the tapping up. It seems Cole is going to follow through on the rumors and take the fine to court as a 'restraint on trade'. The argument being that other employees can talk to employers in order to switch job, the fact that football players cannot is a violation of EU law. They are going to go up the channels in England, but have said they'll take this to Europe if the fine still stands.

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quote: Originally posted by alva Ooh Reds...!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ool/4598737.stm

just 1 out of 15 on the commiteee

	02-06-2005 18:22									#238
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Btw, with the tapping up. It seems Cole is going to follow through on the rumors and take the fine to court as a 'restraint on trade'. The argument being that other employees can talk to employers in order to switch job, the fact that football players cannot is a violation of EU law. They are going to go up the channels in England, but have said they'll take this to Europe if the fine still stands.

Yeah, I think if it goes to court it'll be found in violation.

But to be fair all this tapping up happens all the time anyway, it's just bad form to get caught. I don't think it'll change much.

	02-06-2005 18:27									#239
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They gave Liverpool £20,000 for tapping up Ziega, bit of a joke really. If they really want to stamp it out points is the only way.

If Cole goes to court I can't see him losing, I can't see how this is any different to Bosmans case (in principle, obviously)

	02-06-2005 21:35									#240
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Mike, check out this thread on a Chelsea site. The transcript is from the message boards of CFCnet, "the intelligent forum" for fans of the Champions, Chelsea FC".

http://www.cfc-net.co.uk/forum/topi...761&whichpage=1

Bitter blues or what?