02-06-2005 21:53									#241
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quote: hey you blues, cant you have a little faith and keep the posts coming? Its not like Milan have lost now have they?????? They aregonna score a goal in extra time ............... bad thing Crespo is off

Im disgusted any Englishman would support an Italian team over any English team.

Better whining "bin-dippers" than those Chelski fans.

	02-06-2005 22:00									#242
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever If Cole goes to court I can't see him losing, I can't see how this is any different to Bosmans case (in principle, obviously)

Yep... on Bigsoccer.com, I tried to explain this to an Arsenal fan, but he said the circumstances are totally different. I had to explain to him that under the law it doesn't matter that Cole makes a TON more than Bosman did .

	02-06-2005 23:30									#243
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adu blows - dont expect much. (and hes not 16)

	02-06-2005 23:39									#244
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LoA is just blind. Don't worry, you'll get a show out of Adu. He's showed great promise with DC United.

	03-06-2005 00:31									#245
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im blind my ass. i've played soccer at the highest level in the state of california. i know a good player when i see one, and adu isnt aggressive enough. yeah, he can dribble like no other, but so what? you wanna play 1 on 1, go play in the mexican league. who runs faster? a player or the ball? hes got one goal through 9 games. hes only started four of them. at 5ft 8 hes kinda small, but he can still grow another two inches or so. hes only got three shots on goal out of 10 taken (thats on average one shot per game)

	03-06-2005 00:32									#246
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when he first broke in, everyone bought into the hype that he would be starting on the US national team for the 2006 world cup. i didnt, and looks like im going to be right. he doesnt even have any caps half way through the qualifying phase

	03-06-2005 00:46									#247
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now look at Phillipe Senderos. As captain of the U-17 swiss team, he led them to a european championship. he has three caps and plays for Arsenal (was voted twice player of the month by arsenal.com) thats what a good young player looks like

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or look at Johann Vonlanthen - born in 86, he is the youngest goal scorer in the history of the Euro cup (18 years old). he has 9 caps for the swiss national team and has scored 5 goals.

adu hasnt got **** on either of these guys.

	03-06-2005 01:59									#249
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And when Senderos and Volanthen are discovered to be, in reality, Americans, then you can come back. No one is calling him Pele, they are saying he's the best American produced and has the oppertunity to be a world class player.

Besides, he scored 5 goals last year, in his first year, and showed great talent at his age.

	03-06-2005 02:06									#250
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quote: And when Senderos and Volanthen are discovered to be, in reality, Americans, then you can come back. No one is calling him Pele, they are saying he's the best American produced and has the oppertunity to be a world class player. Besides, he scored 5 goals last year, in his first year, and showed great talent at his age.

and when everyone realizes that america has much better young players, like Eddie Johnson, Landon Donovan, and DaMarcus Beaseley, they'll get off the Adu splooge wagon and stop overhyping him.

	03-06-2005 14:04									#251
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Mike, check out this thread on a Chelsea site. The transcript is from the message boards of CFCnet, "the intelligent forum" for fans of the Champions, Chelsea FC". http://www.cfc-net.co.uk/forum/topi...761&whichpage=1 Bitter blues or what?

****ers.

A bit of banter is good but if it's a European match I'd always support the English team. Even if it was Arsenal or Spurs.

	04-06-2005 22:42									#252
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Faroe Islands 1 - 3 Switzerland
Czech Republic 8 - 1 Andorra

ireland v. Israel 2.30 EST
USA v costa Rica 7.30 EST (prolly on ESPN2)

	04-06-2005 22:45									#253
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turkey v greece 2.00 EST

	04-06-2005 22:52									#254
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the average age of the swiss team on the field today was 23 years old

	04-06-2005 23:43									#255
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Ireland scores in the 6th minute against Israel. Is this the end of the israeli run?

	04-06-2005 23:53									#256
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Ireland scores again, 5 minutes later! 2 - 0 ireland.

	04-06-2005 23:56									#257
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia and when everyone realizes that america has much better young players, like Eddie Johnson, Landon Donovan, and DaMarcus Beaseley, they'll get off the Adu splooge wagon and stop overhyping him.

Johnson will be good and Beasley already is, but Donovan? The guy who came crying over back to California because he couldn't handle the pressure of a top tier league?

Though I think Adu will be every bit the player that Beasley is, and possibly more. Adu is the playmaker we've been looking for. The US team has plenty of speed and athleticism, but we don't have a playmaker.

Though in a few years, you could probably put Adu up front with EJ, and he'd probably do better than most of losers who try to play striker for the US (by that time I assume McBride retires from international football).

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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia Czech Republic 8 - 1 Andorra

OUCH, OUCH, OUCH!

Well that is what happens when you are Andorra .

And yeah, the US qualifier is on ESPN2.

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quote: im blind my ass. i've played soccer at the highest level in the state of california. i know a good player when i see one, and adu isnt aggressive enough. yeah, he can dribble like no other, but so what? you wanna play 1 on 1, go play in the mexican league. who runs faster? a player or the ball? hes got one goal through 9 games. hes only started four of them. at 5ft 8 hes kinda small, but he can still grow another two inches or so. hes only got three shots on goal out of 10 taken (thats on average one shot per game)

I don't know as Adu will ever be the huge goal scorer, but some of his assists are awesome. He's tied with a slew of others for 4th in the MLS on assists, despite limited playing time.

You are right that he isn't that aggressive now. That has limited his impact and consistency. But he's much more aggressive this year than last year because he's a bigger kid and isn't pushed around as much now. I don't know if this progression will continue.

	05-06-2005 00:03									#260
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quote: Johnson will be good and Beasley already is, but Donovan? The guy who came crying over back to California because he couldn't handle the pressure of a top tier league?

he couldnt handle sitting on the bench. if i was him, i woulda gone to another team in europe, one not as good as Bayer Leverkusen, where he could get some playing time.

quote: Though I think Adu will be every bit the player that Beasley is, and possibly more. Adu is the playmaker we've been looking for. The US team has plenty of speed and athleticism, but we don't have a playmaker.

yeah, Adu the 5ft 6 playmaker, who dribbles too much, weights 140 lbs, and chose to play in america instead of europe. speed and athleticism always beats technical skill. if hes gonna be as good as beaseley, then hes gonna have to go play in europe for one, and for two, not get hyped as much as he did, because beasley didnt get any hype.

quote: Though in a few years, you could probably put Adu up front with EJ, and he'd probably do better than most of losers who try to play striker for the US (by that time I assume McBride retires from international football).

yeah, remember eric wynalda? and mcbride sucks too. so did clint, that fat out of shape whale.

	05-06-2005 00:16									#261
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When he's on, Adu's really fun to watch. Exciting like no other player that DC United has. I don't know about the hype, and I'm a very casual fan in any event (I like football a lot more than soccer), but I'm glad that I will be able to watch him for the next couple of years here.

	05-06-2005 00:24									#262
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quote: yeah, Adu the 5ft 6 playmaker, who dribbles too much, weights 140 lbs, and chose to play in america instead of europe. speed and athleticism always beats technical skill. if hes gonna be as good as beaseley, then hes gonna have to go play in europe for one, and for two, not get hyped as much as he did, because beasley didnt get any hype.

Um... LoA? Legally he can't be transferred to Europe because of his young age. Adu has basically said when he gets to the requisite age, he's gone. Though I think he should balk on the uber-clubs because he'll just be on the bench. Best to pick a decent, but non CL team so he can get some good playing time.

quote: yeah, remember eric wynalda? and mcbride sucks too. so did clint, that fat out of shape whale.

Wynalda could shoot at least. Not too bad. McBride is pretty decent. He had a HELL of a last few months at Fulham.

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quote: Um... LoA? Legally he can't be transferred to Europe because of his young age. Adu has basically said when he gets to the requisite age, he's gone. Though I think he should balk on the uber-clubs because he'll just be on the bench. Best to pick a decent, but non CL team so he can get some good playing time.

he IS the requisite age - hes like 18. i agree, dont join a CL team, go to say a French Ligue A, or Swiss Super League, or English lower premier league and play there for say one or two years as a starter, then move to a PSV Eindhoven, or an Everton.

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No he isn't 18. He's 16 (turned it two days back). You keep making this claim without any proof. Sorry, bub. Come back with proof or else you continue to be full of ****.

	05-06-2005 00:40									#265
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His growth and weight sure seem like that of a 16-year old kid as opposed to an 18-year old kid. But I have no proof either way.

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quote: No he isn't 18. He's 16 (turned it two days back). You keep making this claim without any proof. Sorry, bub. Come back with proof or else you continue to be full of ****.

just look at his face, the kid just turned 18.

	05-06-2005 00:49									#267
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ISRAEL HAS STORMED BACK and tied it at 2. man, these guys have heart. loads and loads of heart.

	05-06-2005 01:12									#268
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia just look at his face, the kid just turned 18.

I ask for your proof and you spew more bullshit .

	05-06-2005 01:27									#269
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chivas USA v chicago burn is on espn 2

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its all over. Ireland and Israel TIE 2 - 2. what a nasty game is was too, 7 yellows for israel, 1 yellw and a red for ireland (Andrew O'Brien, central defender)