25-05-2005 22:22									#91
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The people love me.

then run for president

	25-05-2005 22:25									#92
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btw that was refreshing
now back to work

	25-05-2005 22:39									#94
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No.. actually I do have the right to bash any religion and the likes. I DO HAVE THE RIGHT, that is a fact . I don't knwo about Italy, but in here I knwo I have the right to do it. You can't say well you don't have to right, because I know I do .

Furthermore in here I have the right to do it IN YOUR lands If you have piece of land, I can go there and set up my tent and bash Islam all I want, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. HOOAH! And I can eat your berries and mushrooms.

	25-05-2005 22:42									#96
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that was funny

	25-05-2005 22:45									#97
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quote: that's true. that was offending. my bad. i should have elaborated and not used aphorisms. but it takes too much time. still sorry.

That doesn't dismiss your crime, it only proves that at trial you probably won't claim 'not guilty'. Turn yourself in, criminal.

	25-05-2005 22:47									#98
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I had mitigating (sp?) circumstances
i was in the heat of the talk and i didnt have enough time to further my opinions!
she did it in a calculative cold manner OTOH writing a book.
so i plead for the understanding of the court

	25-05-2005 22:50									#99
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(damn i would have made a good lawyer)

	25-05-2005 22:52									#100
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quote: I had mitigating (sp?) circumstances i was in the heat of the talk and i didnt have enough time to further my opinions!

Irrelevant. Many crimes happen in the heat of the moment or someone losing their temper for a few seconds. That doesn't excuse the crime.

quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 (damn i would have made a good lawyer)

	25-05-2005 22:53									#101
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if you had taken the lobbyists case, you would have been one sorry ass lawyer Then again they don't pay them on victories but by hour so .. no problem there.

Hey.. what's your job anyways?

	25-05-2005 23:11									#102
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I'm a journalist. I inform Greeks about Finland
You are my prime example of a Finn. I tell them look at Pekka and understand finnish people

	25-05-2005 23:13									#103
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Does anybody here knows how the Italian judiciary deals with smilar cases when it comes to other religions?

	25-05-2005 23:19									#104
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paiktis, really? Cool.. journalist.. well that sounds like something you'd want to do, am I right? Good job then.. I hope they don't carry you to jail for writing offensive material .

Anyway if you want to understand Europe you look at Europe. IF you want to see how Europe should be, look at me. I am the TRUE EUROPA!

	25-05-2005 23:34									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka I hope they don't carry you to jail for writing offensive material .

I try not to take sides nomatter what I think about an issue; I consider that bad journalism. Just the facts madam I also never have the intention to vex anyone.

	25-05-2005 23:35									#106
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Just like how American creationists want to create our own dark age here in United States?

The difference being that the Europeans have managed to get a lot further along...

	25-05-2005 23:39									#107
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Lucky for me I'm in Florida.

That's such a surreal statement. Even more surreal because it's true...

	26-05-2005 00:04									#108
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 see how the average american mind thinks (no offence) . and then i have the expectation to have a dialogue. silly me. even if that happens, it lays no weight to her claim that "islam is evil" (and santa has reindeers)

I didn't say that they were evil, I said that they do go to violence a lot. And that the Italian government does have a very good reason for doing what it is doing.

	26-05-2005 00:28									#109
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Saying that Western civilization is superior to Islamic civilization is not true. Neither is superior to the other.

Yeah it's true. One civilization put men on the moon. The other uses stolen airplanes to crash into buildings. One civilization is debating gay marriage. The other kills you for being homosexual. One civilization is undergoing a revision in their thinking re: the nature of gender roles. The other keeps women silent, hidden, and under-educated.

Now, were we having this conversation in, say, 1309ad, the opposite could be claimed. But it's no longer the middle ages, so any claim to past Islamic superiority is just that... in the past.

	26-05-2005 00:29									#110
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JohnT and Che

fallaci

Islam

offending religion

	26-05-2005 00:33									#111
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Neither Greece nor Italy are in Western Europe. Greece is in Eastern Europe, Italy in Southern Europe. I love my people, but remember, they invented fascism.

Che, don't forget that you're arguing with a person who doesn't "believe" in the concept of "Western Civilization."

You're not even speaking the same language when such a gulf exists.

	26-05-2005 00:34									#112
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 islam is a religious belief. you respect it. period.

Sorry, but since I don't respect religions I don't see why I have to respect any one religion.

Period.

	26-05-2005 00:38									#113
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What's with all this recent agreeing between me and Che?

Er...

Italian cooking sucks!

well, no it doesn't, but sheesh! We gotta disagree on something

	26-05-2005 00:46									#114
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quote: Yeah it's true. One civilization put men on the moon. The other uses stolen airplanes to crash into buildings.

Nice troll. I might as well say that only one of them incinerated people with nuclear weapons and started two world wars.

Libelling every Islamic country with the actions of a few loonies is silly. Fewer Muslims support OBL than Americans support Bush.

	26-05-2005 00:47									#115
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Glad I could feed the trolls.

Cite on the "Fewer muslims..." bit?

	26-05-2005 00:48									#116
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It's funny that she gets to slander Islam all she wants, but people who publish books saying nasty things about jews get taken to court.

Hatemongering of the Coulter sort should not be protected speech.

	26-05-2005 00:52									#117
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quote: Cite on the "Fewer muslims..." bit?

Common sense. Most Muslims dislike OBL and in the one election an Islamist party did win, the voters would probably have voted for the Gay Liberation Front if it meant getting rid of the incumbent. Bush got more votes than any candidate in US history.

Arafat was a different story. I imagine he was much more popular among Arabs than Bush is among Yanks. Then again, Arafat wasn't a lunatic criminal.

	26-05-2005 01:52									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon but people who publish books saying nasty things about jews get taken to court.

examples please?

	26-05-2005 01:58									#119
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Sorry, but since I don't respect religions I don't see why I have to respect any one religion.

	26-05-2005 03:10									#120
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This is crap! All religions need to be equal and there should be no special privilages for Islam just because many of its followers are homicidal maniacs. The obvious lesson for Jews and Christians is you just need to kill a few thousand people and then you get special privilages.