21-06-2005 08:39									#181
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quote: Originally posted by boann and guys never give off mixed signals

What do you mean? Guys never give off signals. Ever.

	21-06-2005 08:45									#182
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger What do you mean? Guys never give off signals. Ever.

bull honky...
men just pretend they are direct and don't give off
mixed signals.

which is yet another male game
we might spend time talking about.
most men will say anything or do anything to get laid.
including saying i love you.. or whatever other
bull that comes to mind that sounds good at the time.

"oh sweetie you are so beautiful and theres no one else but you ... and ill call you in the morning... just help me out here this time.. you know i need you so bad.. just me and you babe.. "

	21-06-2005 08:47									#183
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quote: most men will say anything or do anything to get laid.

And women know that (if they don't, well...). If women fall for dumb lines, it's their fault .

	21-06-2005 08:51									#184
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quote: Originally posted by boann most men will say anything or do anything to get laid. including saying i love you.. or whatever other bull that comes to mind that sounds good at the time.

You are confusing lies with mixed signals.

	21-06-2005 08:52									#185
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: most men will say anything or do anything to get laid. And women know that (if they don't, well...). If women fall for dumb lines, it's their fault .

well fine... but just don't pretend you men are all straight up and saying nothing but how it really is...
and that women are the ones that mislead .
maybe we are the way we are because you are the way you are. ever think about that.

	21-06-2005 08:53									#186
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger You are confusing lies with mixed signals.

its the same thing...

	21-06-2005 08:55									#187
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quote: Originally posted by boann well fine... but just don't pretend you men are all straight up and saying nothing but how it really is... and that women are the ones that mislead . maybe we are the way we are because you are the way you are. ever think about that.

Read what UR said. That ain't mixed signals. They are lying to get you into bed. There is no confusion as to whether sex is wanted or friendship wanted. Sex is wanted, the lies are about what the sex will mean.

And as for the women are the way they are because men are the way they are . Women hold the sexual power in male-female relationships. Whenever I hear the ones with more power saying they are reacting to the ones with less power, it's always BS .

	21-06-2005 08:56									#188
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quote: Originally posted by boann its the same thing...

Bull! With a lie, you'll know if you were told the truth within a week (if you are real slow). With mixed signals, you could be wondering what the Hell is going on for months.

To analogize, it's the difference between cutting someone's head off and slashing a person bit by bit over a long period of time until they bleed to death.

	21-06-2005 08:56									#189
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quote: Originally posted by boann very well said... though DR. i think you're talking over their heads

No, actually I'm hitting on you.

	21-06-2005 08:56									#190
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: most men will say anything or do anything to get laid. And women know that (if they don't, well...). If women fall for dumb lines, it's their fault .

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	21-06-2005 08:58									#191
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Bull! With a lie, you'll know if you were told the truth within a week (if you are real slow). With mixed signals, you could be wondering what the Hell is going on for months.

liars deserve what they get

	21-06-2005 08:59									#192
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove No, actually I'm hitting on you.

well really lol... thats refreshing

	21-06-2005 09:00									#193
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And those who engage in mixed signals deserve to be despised and hated .

And women wonder why they get stalked

	21-06-2005 09:01									#194
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And those who engage in mixed signals deserve to be despised and hated . And women wonder why they get stalked

and men wonder why they get bashed at every opportunity

	21-06-2005 09:03									#195
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If you actually think that women bash men more than men bash women, you got another thing coming .

	21-06-2005 09:05									#196
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui If you actually think that women bash men more than men bash women, you got another thing coming .

just how old are you imran?
how many relationships have you been in?
what makes you an expert on women?

	21-06-2005 09:07									#197
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A few, but I've been around plenty of men to know that woman bashing is around the same in numbers as women who bash men.

You actually think that 'Al Bundy' is a rare bird (there was a reason "Married with Children" stayed on as long as it did ) .

	21-06-2005 10:11									#198
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I have a date with Lady #2 this Friday.

I shall have a conversation with Chica #1 tomorrow.

Until everything is clear with Chica #1 I shall proceed as though we are just friends.

	21-06-2005 10:11									#199
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quote: Originally posted by boann its the same thing...

Mixed signals happen when you say one thing with words but another thing through non-verbal channels. Well, you can actually say a few conflicting things with non-verbel cues at the same time, and that's when it really gets confusing.

I would believe the non-verbal signals over spoken words if they are consistent, though.

	21-06-2005 10:31									#200
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us I have a date with Lady #2 this Friday. I shall have a conversation with Chica #1 tomorrow. Until everything is clear with Chica #1 I shall proceed as though we are just friends.

threesomes.

	21-06-2005 10:32									#201
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Mixed signals happen when you say one thing with words but another thing through non-verbal channels. Well, you can actually say a few conflicting things with non-verbel cues at the same time, and that's when it really gets confusing. I would believe the non-verbal signals over spoken words if they are consistent, though.

saying one thing but acting in a different way.
hummm professing love and just taking sex.
professing friendship and taking physical comfort.

and thats different how?

	21-06-2005 10:36									#202
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orders of magnitude.

	21-06-2005 10:48									#203
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui A few, but I've been around plenty of men to know that woman bashing is around the same in numbers as women who bash men. You actually think that 'Al Bundy' is a rare bird (there was a reason "Married with Children" stayed on as long as it did ) .

i loath that show.

and no ted is not some rare bird.
its a parody of male alter ego. its tv dear, not real life.

	21-06-2005 10:56									#204
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quote: its a parody of male alter ego. its tv dear, not real life.

TV mimicks real life. There is a reason that show survived so long (10 years). It wasn't because women where watching and saying Al Bundy is such a funny parody of those dumb guys. It was lower middle class and working class men who identified with Al Bundy and accepted the character as one of their own, even when he was being put down and being made fun of (in fact they probably identified with a lot of that as well). That's why when you watch the show and Al walks on the set of the live studio audience show he gets whoops and applause that takes a long ass time to die down (much longer than any other character in any other show I can remember).

	21-06-2005 10:56									#205
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Mixed signals happen when you say one thing with words but another thing through non-verbal channels. Well, you can actually say a few conflicting things with non-verbel cues at the same time, and that's when it really gets confusing. I would believe the non-verbal signals over spoken words if they are consistent, though.

There's a difference between believing something and acting as though it was true. Generally, I've found that people who don't know how they feel don't accept being told by others...

	21-06-2005 11:02									#206
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer *coughphilippinescough*

Lancer if you keep trying to marry off all those Philippinas then we're going to end up with half the forum married to Philippinas and living down the street from you.

	21-06-2005 11:09									#207
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I had similar cases in the past.
She wants to use you when you are needed and dump you when she no longer needs you. Claiming it is only friendship is like assuring no deeper relationship will develop.
Do you think she might have had some bad life experiences recently?
I would avoid and stay away. Just my vote.

	21-06-2005 11:34									#208
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quote: Originally posted by boann (and Boann, I find it strange that many women don't count their encounters with other women as sexual encounters.. do you include them with your total (something like ~8 partners, about half ones you were in love with and half not, if I remember right)) (I am interested just because of not knowing many women your age, and I always like to know more expereinces to correct and modify my view of the universe) wow you have a good memory..jon that thread was a long time ago .. and no i don't include those female encounters in that list. those on the list are only humm how do i put this... can i use the word intercourse... my female sexual experiences were when i was very young under 13 years old.. more just young girls being curious.

Hmm, so (Some) of the stories of female sleepovers are true?

I thought those were made up by horny men.

quote: but the cuddling i was talking about between females is more like comforting... hugging.. smoothing someones hair, sitting close together holding hands, maybe laying on someones lap... its very innocent and nothing sexual about it.

I agree that there can be nothing sexual about male/male cuddling, male/female cuddling, and female/female cuddling

but with today's sex obsessed culture (And maybe almost all cultures are sex obsessed) it is rarely nonsexual for both people involved (especially if they are not related)

and in this case we know that it is somewhat sexual for Space

Jon Miller
(I pay attention to most of your posts)

	21-06-2005 11:39									#209
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I know that I am somewhat keyed up right now...

and so even a girl who I had just been frenids with, if I cuddled with, my thoughts would not stay platonic

JM
(just a hug can do it)

	21-06-2005 11:53									#210
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Space, do you know why so many women complain that there aren't any nice guys? Because there aren't any nice guys any more. Women bred that out of us 100 000 years ago. Now start sticking up for yourself and bury your hatchet in her...

As I've said before , guys trying to be nice forget to be guys . Therein lies the mistake - you have not to suppress your sexuailty just because you're nice .

Go ahead , be nice - but be a guy , too .

As an aside , at the next "cuddling session" , try to turn and keep the conversation on intimate/sexual topics , and after about ten to fifteen minutes of that , make your move . The way into a woman't pants is through her mind .