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Originally posted by Kalius
First of all, it is likely these men were not average police. It is more likely they were SAS or SBS. As a result, they are not average bobbies untrained in how to use firearms properly.
Additionally, the man legged it when they shouted "Stop! Police!", hurdled a turnstile and jumped onto a train. He had wires hanging from him (possibly a walkman, but given the puffy jacket also a chance it could be a bomb). His suspicious behaviour, probable struggle on the ground, and his ignoring of police warning means he was doing everything possible to ask to be shot, short of literally asking.
Question their means, I'm sure they do that all the time. But don't question their motives. |
I might be a little stubborn, but wether those guys that did the actual shooting was SAS, SBS or plain bobbies in plainclothes - does that change any reasons why they acted as thy did ?
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Leafs 4TW!! - CPA
Dec 2002
time: 00:37
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Originally posted by Kalius
First of all, it is likely these men were not average police. It is more likely they were SAS or SBS. As a result, they are not average bobbies untrained in how to use firearms properly. |
That makes it worse. Military people on the street. Jesus...
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Additionally, the man legged it when they shouted "Stop! Police!", hurdled a turnstile and jumped onto a train. He had wires hanging from him (possibly a walkman, but given the puffy jacket also a chance it could be a bomb). His suspicious behaviour, probable struggle on the ground, and his ignoring of police warning means he was doing everything possible to ask to be shot, short of literally asking. |
No it doesn't. Innocent people flee from the police all the time. Sometimes they have reasons, sometimes they are just experiencing an acute stress response. Just because people behave suspiciously is not just cause for emptying a magazine into their heads.
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Question their means, I'm sure they do that all the time. But don't question their motives. |
Who's doing that? I'm questioning the adequacy of their evidence and the presumption that looking foreign and strange and running from the police entitles them to shoot you.
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
sorry NYE - am I to understand you believe it is currently lawful for police to shoot people who disobey their instructions? |
Nope, it isn't allowed for any policeperson to do that, unless of course there has been a row of bombings of subways and a person acts like he may commit yet another such. I.m not that clear about english law, but I guess that if english policemens starts to gun down people at will, then they don't have any legal support. Just as they don't hve it in any other country with an even reasonable legislation.
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
he says only days after an innocent person was brutally and deliberately shot to death by a policeman in a summary execution...what planet are you living on? |
Planet earth, but it seems that you live on a totally different one.
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notyoueither
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of naught
Aug 2001
time: 22:37
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Even that formulation is quite completely wrong. Go and find out what the law is and then come back and post something accurate. |
Why don't you, Horsie?
Why don't you cite the reasons why these London cops were criminally wrong for what they did.
It is your case to make.
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