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MOBIUS is offline MOBIUS
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quote:
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Oh you have some nerve, *****!


QED

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where did you get your engineering degree again?


None of your damn buisness

But it is a matter of public record as far as the thousands of engineers who agree with me and are trying to make you people see reality.

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Yeah, too many people on this forum argue with their emotions and prejudices instead of their brains, which is why it's so easy to trash their arguments - assuming that they have an argument in the 1st place...




This is really a funny statement since you primarily post emotional and prejudistic statements and only rarely tries to build a case up based on facts.

Oh, and I'm not surprised that TS supports your rantings - he after all supports your prejudice.

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This is really a funny statement since you primarily post emotional and prejudistic statements and only rarely tries to build a case up based on facts.

Oh, and I'm not surprised that TS supports your rantings - he after all supports your prejudice.


Prejudice being what?

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Prejudice being what?


Bush is to be blamed of all.

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Bush is to be blamed of all.




quote:
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Or – basically everyone involved in a position of authority has majorly ****ed up.


Lies, lies!

Feelthy, steenkeeng lies!

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By the way, Time Magazine just published an interesting article that potentially sheds some light onto FEMA director Michael Brown's "qualifications and ethics."
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Before joining FEMA, his only previous stint in emergency management, according to his bio posted on FEMA's website, was "serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight." The White House press release from 2001 stated that Brown worked for the city of Edmond, Okla., from 1975 to 1978 "overseeing the emergency services division." In fact, according to Claudia Deakins, head of public relations for the city of Edmond, Brown was an "assistant to the city manager" from 1977 to 1980, not a manager himself, and had no authority over other employees. "The assistant is more like an intern," she told TIME. "Department heads did not report to him."...

Under the "honors and awards" section of his profile at FindLaw.com — which is information on the legal website provided by lawyers or their offices—he lists "Outstanding Political Science Professor, Central State University". However, Brown "wasn't a professor here, he was only a student here," says Charles Johnson, News Bureau Director in the University Relations office at the University of Central Oklahoma (formerly named Central State University). "He may have been an adjunct instructor," says Johnson, but that title is very different from that of "professor." Carl Reherman, a former political science professor at the University through the '70s and '80s, says that Brown "was not on the faculty." As for the honor of "Outstanding Political Science Professor," Johnson says, "I spoke with the department chair yesterday and he's not aware of it."...

Under the heading of "Professional Associations and Memberships" on FindLaw, Brown states that from 1983 to the present he has been director of the Oklahoma Christian Home, a nursing home in Edmond. But an administrator with the Home, told TIME that Brown is "not a person that anyone here is familiar with." She says there was a board of directors until a couple of years ago, but she couldn't find anyone who recalled him being on it. According to FEMA's Andrews, Brown said "he's never claimed to be the director of the home. He was on the board of directors, or governors of the nursing home." However, a veteran employee at the center since 1981 says Brown "was never director here, was never on the board of directors, was never executive director. He was never here in any capacity. I never heard his name mentioned here."

http://www.time.com/time/nation/art...1103003,00.html

It looks like he is a perfectly qualified man for the job who never exagerates or makes up any false qualifications on his resume.

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the breakdown of law and order resulting in murders.


That's not the fault of the authorities but of the uncivilised nature of the people left behind. They are poor for a reason. America offers everyone opportunity.

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Hey PA - Every time I see your avatar I can't help seeing the word ****...

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There still seem to be daily screw ups. Its really unbelievable

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Hey PA - Every time I see your avatar I can't help seeing the word ****...


That's what he is. A little fcuk

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the world is looking Iraq and looking at New Orleans and concluding the US is not the powerhouse it used to be

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And then the world loks around and sees who could be the new powerhouse. And it sees void.

With the US in relative decline, he world is falling into chaos, and there's none who can do anything about it.

Except one man. Ecthy.

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It's all Bush's fault though.

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the impression is wrong but there will be a lot of soul searching in the USA

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the impression is wrong but there will be a lot of soul searching in the USA


I don't think so. It will harden factions, as those who disliked or hated Bush before are absolutely confirmed in their worst fears while right-wingers will just cover their eyes, plug their ears, and go "lalalaaaaa we can't hear you!"

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Che, why do you hate freedom.

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That's not the fault of the authorities but of the uncivilised nature of the people left behind. They are poor for a reason. America offers everyone opportunity.


Oh for ****'s sake.

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara I don't think so. It will harden factions, as those who disliked or hated Bush before are absolutely confirmed in their worst fears while right-wingers will just cover their eyes, plug their ears, and go "lalalaaaaa we can't hear you!"


And so Che describes the factions of Poly...

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Dubya's words...

Michael Brown sacked!

One down, a whole bunch more to go...

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No, he wasn't sacked. He was just "sent back to DC." As if the administration would have the balls to sack him. That would be admitting he wasn't doing a "heck of a job."

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"Sent back to DC" is effectively the same thing as being sacked. Not quite as time-worn of a procedure as quitting "to spend more time with your family," but...

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No, he was only recalled from the on-site efforts:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09...gton/index.html

"Brown will head back to Washington from Louisiana to oversee the big picture, the official said."

Now an assistant to Brown is claiming he was considering leaving this winter anyway. So it looks like he'll just quit after being allowed to lay low for a bit.

Chickenshits.

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"Oversee the big picture" is an empty portfolio. He's fired at some time in the future.

I don't think it would be good management to have the position vacant at this time, but it is important to have the ineffective person removed from the situation.

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I don't think so. It will harden factions, as those who disliked or hated Bush before are absolutely confirmed in their worst fears while right-wingers will just cover their eyes, plug their ears, and go "lalalaaaaa we can't hear you!"


No, they'll blame the underlings this time. Novak in yesterdays WaPo was going hard on both Brown and Chertoff "too many lawyers" Rumsfeld is the only teflon man in the cabinet.

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"Oversee the big picture" is an empty portfolio. He's fired at some time in the future.

I don't think it would be good management to have the position vacant at this time, but it is important to have the ineffective person removed from the situation.


Brown is still on the payroll and will be sitting there collecting money. That he will be doing nothing isn't saying anything, as that's what he seems to have been doing before.

Firing him wouldn't hurt the situation at all. In fact, it would send a message that perhaps the administration really took seriously the complaints about his bungling. Chertoff sent him off with praise, dammit. That's not a firing.

As I said, it looks like their just going to let him quietly quit once things have died down.

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That's a good move by the administration. It's not like Bush is obligated to do things in the way that you prefer -- i.e., the least favorable to his administration.

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Remember, Bush is personally overseeing the investigation into this, so you can be sure he'll find plenty of fault at the highest levels.

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Che, why do you hate freedom.


Cuz it stole my socks.

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Remember, Bush is personally overseeing the investigation into this, so you can be sure he'll find plenty of fault at the highest levels.


He's gonna team up with OJ, right?

 
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