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DIE cLEIRC. i PLAY against last week. they use cleric trick.

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sorrry about the TP guys.



Ok ya the effectiveness of the trick is awesome. It takes 10-15 turn to recover from that.

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Ahh, I remember back in my gl days when the building/unit cheat was a trick. One game in particular, I had set my workday to max and wages to the least, my capitol was going to grow on the next turn so I rush bought a granary and switched to a settler. Well on my next turn, the city grew, roited, settler built, city destroyed by famine Man that sucked. Let me tell you, losing your capitol that early in a game, you will never recover. With an 3.2 capitol distance unhappiness in all your cities so long as you do not have a capitol, the road to stone working is a loooong ways away.

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Oh I played a guy a few weaks ago who did not know to play


His name was "A Dung Crawler"


His cities were all suffering from famine And he didnt know how to trade. And at turn 40, I just rolled his ass with a bunch of Samurai's.

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I hope you pointed the poor bo into this direction

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I hope you pointed the poor bo into this direction



Na. He didnt know how to chat.

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Try renaming cities to communicate to them
Worked in a few games I played

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Try renaming cities to communicate to them
Worked in a few games I played


I did...he was a total idiot. He had only like 6-7 cities size 10 (and starving cause moron didnt adjust theo wages) to my 30.

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Im working on a rough draft towards a finalized version. Its going to be devided into several section covering the various topics discussed here. Mostly quotes of players clumbed together in an easy to read form. But before I finish I want to conduct a series of polls on the various wonders per age. Yet I lost my chart and I not exatly sure which wonders go for which age. Could some one help?

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I did...he was a total idiot. He had only like 6-7 cities size 10 (and starving cause moron didnt adjust theo wages) to my 30.


thats his own fault. Yet I remember a time when I didnt know how to change the city names .

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Gold is the first thing one should consider when it comes to science. Not only will it provide an income for research, but will fill you pockets too Mines, trade routes, marketplaces, and banks are the most important considerations. Be sure to have markets and banks in your monopoly cities. I like to have atleast marketplaces in all my cities. Mines give a gold bonus and on a river or good this increases its value. But if you had to choose between placing a farm or a net go for the net as sea tiles give 5 gold themself. In cities size 5 or more, building city clocks will earn more gold than the maintances costs. Same with televisions in cities size 10 or more. I would think capitalizing in big cities gives an added science bonus from the gold produced in that city, but im not sure.

Next thing to consider is city improvements. In a city size 5 or more, an acadamy and publishing house will earn more science than the cost of maintance for the buildings will take. Dont forget to dedicate a few cities to pure research. If you have Galileo's Telescope, that city MUST have its science maxed, otherwise the wonder is a waste. I also try to get cities size 6 or more to have at least one scienceist. Doing this in 10 cities, size 6, gives you 100 more science a turn, added with acadamies and publishing houses thats 240 more science a turn.

I find the transition from renassiance to modern tech the most difficult in the beginning. I hope that these tactics I have mentioned here with help any new players with their game play.

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For me starting Workday maxed and rations lowest in tyranny works well. Should I ever need to increase some happiness I will slide the wages bar to the right, increasing t and happiness. When I get to Theocracy I will do the same thing. Its not unual for a player to have his gold maxed, workdays maxed, and ration second to the right. In later governments using this procedure does get more difficult because wages are set so high, corporate republic. Hope this help every one. Anyone want to add?

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I always max wages under Theocracy as soon as rioting starts with it one lower up to that point... Rations at 7.5 is essential for growth, and maxed work day is essential under every government but technocracy. I also seem to have found the ideal build queue for Land Maps.. It puts me double my competitors power graph when it counts... I used to lag on Science after commie, but I solved that little problem now...

The Build Queue I use means I have pretty decent science even though I don't build caravans until after my competitors, but when I start building them, I get science of around 1600 in rennaisance.. I've play tested it against some of the best players there are and it really seems to work.... My powergraph even stays low for a long time, disguising what I am up to and I save all gold for the purchase of markets and Banks.

I just wish I could get the hang of Island gaming....

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Hitler once said somthing like "I am a wolf on land but a pup in the sea." One of the only things I can agree on with that man

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Just been playing Troll... TROLL are you about ?? I never froze....apologies if my turns take a long time..... I only move units on my turn and auto move as much as I can... email me at lordgav@civleague.com and I will send saves so U can see and kick Fadeds sorry ass next time!

I would like someone to help on my sea game too, it really sucks!!

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Ok 7.5 food slows your pg but no biggy you make it up several turns down the road with a larger civ. I need to stress the point micro manage. You need to ajust your sliders back when you change governments.

What I mean is if you do not want to take forever changing to a new government leave the sliders at default until it changes. On that note leave them that way for one turn until the civ adjusts. One turn and you will see happiness from 73 to 76...Also click yes I want to change my government then go to the civ button and change it there too. That also speeds the government change remember when changing governments your science is at zero. This is the best time to change trade routes or put workers on food not goods that are slowing your growth and not connected to a trade route.

Next the gold at one turn to change drop science until you increase this amount then drop it back until you get to one again, hike pw to 30 or better. You will save large amounts of gold over time this way. If your building ques empty during this period put them on max production and infrastructure.
When waiting for a government change put all cities on max food. This way your happiness will soar for a turn or two and cities tend to grow faster this way.

You will not have the largest cities if your food is not set to 7.5 but you will have respectable sized cities. This means while the opponent strugles with happiness because of city size you are ready for the kill. This is also how you stablize the renesance to modern science and happiness and growth delema some people have.

To me mircomanagement is the best part of all civilization games

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wow I want to print this out is there any way to edit this so i dont have to print 72 pages.

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wow I want to print this out is there any way to edit this so i dont have to print 72 pages.


Well, one sure fire way is to "Cut-and-Paste". It wouldnt take too long, and just save it in Word or anothr similiar program! PLUS, if you did that, you could divide it up, Highlight a section for Scince, one for growth, one for urban sprawl, ect. ect.


Yours in Civin


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Your stack of 9 SOLs are patroling the high seas when they run into your enemy's stack of 9 SOLs. What do you do? What do you do?

A. Run as fast as possible
B. Bombard them knowing you will take out 3 of them.
C. Straight out attack them, get it over with, and hope for some veteren units.

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Assuming same Government, assuming your ships are unloaded.... you ungroup them, and Bombard one by one..

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Assuming same Government, assuming your ships are unloaded.... you ungroup them, and Bombard one by one..


Excellent advise my friend!

As you single file bombard, move to different directions, thus limiting your opponents response options, since if you iniate, he will be damage somewhat, you will have upper hand!


Yours In Civin

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Haven't had the time to read this thread before much, but now read a good portion of it.

First thing I'd like to tell is that while I consider myself a pretty solid player at Civ 2 (not a great one, but a solid), I completely suck at CtP. Two things that make me go crazy are stacking and PW. I only very recently learned to stack properly. And, what' your PW allocation, in the start of game, and later, and what do you do with your PW usually?

Second, just a mention of what I've done in nearly all my SP games, after I learned to. Build the London Exchange ASAP and at all costs ignore Robotics. War Walker is nothing too great, and without Robotics researched, you can still get the Alien Project, and most techs... no Plasmatica or CryoTanks, but I was first amazed at actually how many techs go without robotics. No maintenance is completely HUGE, and, with Edison's Lab coming later, it means absolute science lead... go London's!

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Wonders always give me a headache.... And I would always rather play without them... They skew the game tremendously... A lucky find in a ruin may give you economics... I don't even like playing with Stealth units... I am playing a PBEM with Darth Viper where we have wonders, and I got distracted and built some... great I felt so proud.... then he comes and captures 10 of my cities whilst I am busy celebrating... I prefer CTP the war game, and my brain just aint big enough to cope with Wonders and Stealth Units.... HAck and slash, blood and mayhem, not stealth and intrigue for me!

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**STOP PRESS** Stephan has crushed me in this game, taken 12 cities now, my capital which had Edisons and London Exchange! Needless to say I conceded!

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A massive deception "Wonders" I can't count how many times that has happened to me Now stealth units hehehe those are the cats meow. TNT spies took out 5 cities before he knew they were there

PW all depends on the terrain if you have mountains 10% pw off the get go. Every time for the most part your tech is about to advance at one turn crank the pw to 30% minimum. Build only mines and roads until large fisheries as cities grow just fine until then.

Theory has it the increase in the pw takes up the wasted production points on the tech advance...

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I discovered the callings part of CTP on Apolyton... Maybe we all knew it was there then forgot about it... There are some interesting articles on Stealth Units, Multiplayer Map Creation and SLIC commands... You can find it at http://apolyton.net/ctp/callings/

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Heh good stuff Gav I like to create a game AI me, I have an online going now year 1500 and something 69% civ score AI are big but I am light years ahead in tech. I will now stop wars as they get jealous and will feed all AI with tech from here on in. Now it gets interesting they mostly will not attack you right out but the stealth units about to hit me make the game. This is how I learned the stealth units. Subneural aid is an AI killer and one of my favorites in the game.

I try to deliver this type of game with other players as the race for space without war is an incredible game of wits, corporate monopoly, counter espionage , tactics and dipolmacy.

Looking forward to seeing your TV evanglist at my door soon

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Interesting to note within 10 turns I have 90% I hope to break the 200% barrier I broke in CTP. Notice 4 riots, not one city has less than 76% happiness all 90 something of them seems to be a default setting. I just conquered the world heh not yet but the game thinks so.

My average happiness is 86% most cities growth is one per turn. 80,000 production or over, it is year 1500 a.d. so I was close lol. Science is 25,000 or so I have to hurry to space now fast lolol. Just turned techno., Pollution -0 and going down 104 % civ score. This game should net me 120-150% civ score easy. I may have 120 or more cities by games end 200 more is target. The AI is starting to toss stealth units now lawyers lolol. Robin Trower playing in background beer in hand +14c is the temperature outside Anyone else?

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