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Giovanni Wine is offline Giovanni Wine
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World events: July 1906

- The British Labour Party is founded
- Transvaal gains regional autonomy
Given equal rights with the Cape Colony and Natal, Transvaal gets a parliament and government of its own.
- In Denmark, King Christian IX dies, and is succeeded by Frederik VIII
- Utah becomes 45th state in the U.S.A.
- San Francisco earthquake and fire destroys most of city

White Diplomacy:
From: Mexico
To: AA

We will consider your offers

From: British Djibouti
To: Cuba

How can you see us in that crappy map Giovanni posted?

Saluti

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Diplomacy:

To: France
We thank you for your help in the war and as per our agreement you are free to trade and transfer good though our land free of tariff.

To: Persia
You are beat a part of the Ottoman empire.

Proposals:

The Emporer of the Ottoman Empire has started an inisutive to indutrialize the Ottoman empire. (Econ to stable in 1.5 years, 3 days)

News:

The war with Persia is over we have won they are now a part of the Great Ottoman Empire.

Progects:

Constructed a rail network to connect the major citys of the ottomon empire. when complete should push the econ. up to recession.

The Emporer of the Ottoman Empire has started an inisutive to indutrialize the Ottoman empire.

Diplomatic status:

Afganistan: Protectorit
Persia: Jihad
UK: Normal, Trade
France: Ally, Trade
Italy: Allied, Trade
Germany: Allied
Russia: Allied
Austria-hungary: Normal
China: Stand offish
Japan: Friendly, Trade
USA: Normal
Brazil: Normal
Argentinia: Normal
Mexico: None

National Status:

Ottoman Empire (light blue)
Ruler: Nimitz
Army: Very Large
Navy: Medium
Air Force: N/A
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Recession > Stable (1 year (2 Days))

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The New Cuban Government submits it's constitution to the Nations of the World.

Preambulatory Clause: The people of Cuba, in order to form a more unified, educated, prosperous, powerful and liberated Carribean, do hereby declare the following measures instrumental to the new government:
1. A government composed of officials elected in a manner of liberty to all citizens, male and female, young and old. To sit in a tri-camberal legislature to be explained herein.
2. A government dedicated to bringing safety, unity, and prosperity to all the isles of the Carribean, in the best interests of the people.
3. A government which allows citizens to rise in status through hard work, luck, and intuition.
Thusly, we, the people of Cuba and the Carribean, present to the world the following Constitution of values and beliefs of the peoples of Cuba.

The Governing body of Cuba and the Carribean will be composed of 3 sectors.

Article I: The Legislative Sector.
The legislation will be composed of the following:
1. The Senate: A Representative body which has two representatives from each province.
2. The Assembly of the People: A Representative body which has representatives distributed by the populations of each province.
3. The Proposers: A body composed of 7 members, appointed by the president, who set the priority of legislation.

Article II: The Executive Sector:
The executive sector allows for two national leaders:
1. an elected leader, who is responsible for approving or vetoing bills, acting as a diplomat to other nations, and doing domestic related tasks.
2. an appointed leader, appointed by the Senate, who is responsible for military matters, except funding.

Article III: The Judiciary

The supreme court of the land will have final say in all matters.
No Cuban citizen or resident of the Carribean is above the law, not even elected officials.
Cuba's provinces may establish their own lower courts, and the Legislative branch may establish federal courts, as long as the results have a chain of progression which will ultimately lead to the Supreme Court.

The Bill of Rights of Cuba.

1. The right to speak, vote, think, feel, or in any other way express views in an unforced and peaceful manner.

2. The right to arm and defend oneself and one's property from any and all foreign peoples.

3. The right to a just trial.

4. Other rights not expressed are at the Judiciary's discretion.

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To Mexico: (SECRET) Don't tell us that you'll "consider" it, at least give us an answer as to whether we can move troops through your territory! Our immediate plans hinge on knowing whether we can or not, we need to know that mucch NOW!

The Navy of Argentina has advanced north up to the California coast. The earthquake in San Francisco has weakened the morale and organization of the US fleet there, and the Argentinians have established temporary naval superiority in the region.

In teh Atlantic, Argentinian forces have landed on teh tip of Florida and sacked the town of Miami (AFAIK it wasn't that big back then).

To the US: Surrender now by the terms of the treaty we proposed in Paris or face a full-scale invasion from all fronts! British troops in Canada are prepared to charge from the North, Russia is ready to make a second attack in teh Northwest, We and probably Mexico too will attack from the Southwest, all the nations of Latin America will attack from the Southeast, and British and Austrian troops from Europe are a short ride from the East coast. No matter how stupid you may or may noot be, you must realize you have no chance of winning such a war. So surrender now or surrender in a couple years after a long bloody war, we prefer the first though and so should you.

Argentinian projects etc. (Bold means Giovanni should look at):
Develop airplane based on Wright brother model: Complete
Build armored recon planes (giving us a tiny airforce): 3 years
Economy->Stable: 2.5 years
Navy to Large: 2.5 years
Army->Very Large: 1 year
Yellow journalism in Central America: 1 year
Set up provisional government in Central America: 1.5 years
Argentinian Diplomatic Postitions:
Russia: Friendly, Coalition against US
Germany: Normal
Austria-Hungary: Friendly, coalition against US
Ottoman Empire: Normal
UK: Very Friendly, Coalition against US
France: Limited Alliance, Friendly
Japan: Normal
USA: Enraged, War
Brazil: Full Alliance, Very Friendly
Venezuela: Full Allaince, Friendly
China: Normal
Mexico: Friendly but falling
Ecuador: Cool
Central America: protecting independence, Very Friendly
Cuba: Friendly

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Cuba will not support Argentina's military plan until Argentina
1. Changes status with Cuba to "cool"
2. Agrees to by a large number of Cuban cigars every year for the next 20 years.

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OOC: Um, "friendly" is better than "cool," so I'll ignore that part.

To Cuba: We cannot, unfortunately, agree to that. HOwever, we will agree to make all imports of your cigars duty-free, and make them ahve other special advantages in our markets.

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OOC: Giovanni, could you post the map you used as you got it first (without any of the colrs or border changes)?

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THe Austrain Navy has enaged the Americans near New York City, and loses on both sides have been havy. Also Austrain troops have begun landing in British held Canada to repell the American attacks there.

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Sorry if I disappeared again, having problems at school, but now I should be ok.

Wjite Nations Diplomacy: July 1907

To: Everybody
From: US

We understand we were in wrong, we will stop our claims of Central America and Canada, we offer all of you peace at pre-war border, and will pay indemnities (OOC: US Economy dropping to Stable, all others receive a one year boost in any Economy development Project... if any)

I did this because I know Sheep is away, so in order for him to not find his country completely destroyed, if Sheep shows up before peace is accepted, than just ignore this.

To: American Alliance
From: Mexico

No, you may not travel your troops around here, we don't like having a foreign marching throught Mexico, I hope you will understand.

Events:
- In Paris (swedish gov't in exile),The Sweidish King Oscar II dies, and is succeeded by Gustav V
- Henry Ford introduces the Model T automobile
- Pope Pius X institutes reactionary measures
In the encyclical Pascendi dominici gregis, Pius X sharply condemns the "modernists", who want to bring the Catholic Church up to date. A number of the modernists are condemned as heretics, and their works placed on the Vatican's Index of forbidden books.
- Gandhi leads non-violent resistance in South Africa
Under the leadership of young Indian attorney Mohandas K. Gandhi (later known as Mahatma Gandhi), Indians in South Africa protest restrictive anti-Indian immigration policies, using non-violent methods.
- Oklahoma becomes 46th state in the U.S.A.
- New Zealand ask for being having Independent Dominion Status (OOC: In RL this was granted on this year)

Saluti

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Map:
Tunisia to Italy
Iran to Ottoman
Bolivia to Argentina
Cuba with sand color

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quote:
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OOC: Giovanni, could you post the map you used as you got it first (without any of the colrs or border changes)?


Here you are:

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To: Austria
From: Italy

Even if you did not accept joining into the Emperor's League, will you still be willing to sell us those Italian cities we asked you for (Trento, Trieste and Fiume)?

Italy Stats & Projects
Army to Large: 1.5 years (3 days)
Navy to Large: done
Improve the economy: 1.5 years (3 days)

Name: Kingdom of Italy
Head of state: King Vittorio Emanuele III
Prime Minister: Giolitti
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Stable
Army: Medium
Navy: Large
Air Force: None
MPP: Emperor's League

Italian Diplomacy:
Russia: Friendly (allied)
Germany: Friendly (allied)
Austria-Hungary: Friendly
Ottoman Empire: Friendly (allied, trading)
UK: Normal
France: Friendly (trading)
Japan: Friendly (trading)
USA: Normal
Brazil: Normal
Argentina: Normal
Cuba: Normal
China: None
Mexico: None

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TO the US: Specifically, do you propose to peace terms we proposed in Paris? (I assume that's what you were accepting this is just to confirm)

Argentinian troops have begun to return home, but many are still in Central America, the Caribbean, or other northern territories.

Argentinian projects etc. (Bold means Giovanni should look at):
Build armored recon planes (giving us a tiny airforce): 2 years
Economy->Stable: 1.5 years (1 year if the US treaty is implemented)
Navy to Large: .5 years
Army->Very Large: complete
Yellow journalism in Central America: complete
Set up provisional government in Central America: 6 months
Argentinian Diplomatic Postitions:
Russia: Friendly, Coalition against US
Germany: Normal
Austria-Hungary: Friendly, coalition against US
Ottoman Empire: Normal
UK: Very Friendly, Coalition against US
France: Limited Alliance, Friendly
Japan: Normal
USA: Cool, Ceasefire pending confirmation of terms of treaty
Brazil: Full Alliance, Very Friendly
Venezuela: Full Allaince, Friendly
China: Normal
Mexico: Normal
Ecuador: Cool
Central America: protecting independence, Very Friendly
Cuba: Friendly

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Diplomacy:

To: England
We would now like to buy egypt off you now if you would sell it to us.

To: Emporers Alliance (Secret)
Would you support me in taking the balkans back?

Proposals:

The Emporer of the Ottoman Empire has started an inisutive to indutrialize the Ottoman empire.

News:

The Ottoman naval fleet is going on a world tour, to show it off to the world.

Progects:

The Emporer of the Ottoman Empire has started an inisutive to indutrialize the Ottoman empire.

The Ottoman Empire is working on making a working flying mechean based off the Wright Brothers work. Will be completed in 2 years(4 days)

Diplomatic status:

Afganistan: Protectorit
Persia: Part of the Ottoman empire
UK: Normal (Trade)
France: Friendly (Trade)
Italy: Very Friendly (Allied, Trade)
Germany: Friendly (Allied)
Russia: Normal (Allied)
Austria-hungary: Normal
China: Stand offish
Japan: Friendly (Trade)
USA: Normal
Brazil: Normal
Argentinia: Normal
Mexico: None

National Status:

Ottoman Empire (light blue)
Ruler: Nimitz
Army: Very Large
Navy: Medium
Air Force: N/A(applicable in 2 years)
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Stable
MMP: Emperors Alliance

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To: Ottoman
From: Italy

I will support you, although we would like to have Greece and possibly Albania for us.

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Britain to Ottomans:

honestly, we don't really want to give up Egypt, but we are willing to alllow joint administration for a small fee, to see how it goes. If it works out, at a later time we will consider selling it to you (but not the Suez Canal).


New Zealand has been granted greater autonomy, but not complete independance.

Britain will agree to peace with U.S.

OOC:

I've been posting improvements to civil liberties and equality and quality of life in all the colonies, so Ghandi doesn't really have anything to protest against, as Indians aren't discriminated against.

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You ever seen the Ghandi movie?? He protested until india was free, he's gotta build up status.

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yeah i saw the movie. The point is, India (and the other colonies are free--not free as in independent (though they are reasonably autonomous), but free as in they have the same rights as the citizens in Britain. Ghandi is probably at this point a happily (?) practicing lawyer, he has no reason to fight injustice because there is none (well, not none, but very little considering this is the early 20th century. And what little there is, the regional admnistrations are busy eliminating, so Mr. Ghandi or anyone else like him need not concern themselves with any such problems in the British Empire.

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But just being in the British Empire is a hindrance to Civil Liberties.

((I'm Anglophobic, can't you tell?))

Besides, sooner or later, the British Empire has to dissolve into tiny bits...

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To: Italy(secret)
You may have greece and Albania if you will help us take the rest of the balkan nations, we will help take thoughs two.

To: Great Britain
We will agree to this.

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OOC: Gandhi might have had his movement, he might not. Either way, it was still quite weak in 1907 so it's not that big a deal right now anyways.

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Air force: beginning construction of airplanes(recon), with the help of our allies. (3 years) (5 if they don't help)

Navy: upgrading to Huge (7 years)

New tax reforms implemented. More rights given to the poor. A raise in taxes from the wealthy and a tax cut for the poor.

Propoganda boosted, nationalism growing dramatically.

Brazillian troops begin pulling out, little by little.

A much tougher military training implemented. Boot camp is now 16 weeks long, skill training increased.


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Army: Gigantic
Navy: Large

Economy: Growing

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goober, what you said is true, but things are much better than they really were at the time, they could even be considered mildly reasonable, even if conditions were occasionally unjust. At least in this British Empire, all the native citizens are officially and legally equal, even if in practice that isn't always the case, and we're working towards resolving that as well. And I'm hoping that my Britain will be able to retain most of its colonies, continuing to be more equal in representation and civil rights.


Am i correct in assuming that the U.S. has now withdrawn/been foced out of Canada?
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Canada, Australia, and Ireland have been externally industrialized enough that they can continue improving on their own, adding significantly to their prosperity and bringing the overall economy up to Booming once again. The new modernization lists are as follows:

First tier:
India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia

Second tier:
Burma, South Africa, Botswana

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No Foolish, there really needs to be a splitting up of the British Empire.

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Obviously we aren't going to be able to hold onto every single one of our colonies, but i'm going to do my best. That's the main reason I chose Britain, to see if i could keep it together. There is no concrete rule that says Britain must lose its colonies. It will depend on historical circumstances, like everything else. Besides, this is all assuming this NES will progress that far (which I hope it does). But as far as I'm concerned, the sun won't set on this British Emprie.

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Good for you goober, do you think I care?

Unless of course it was one of MY British people, in which case I'll have to set up huge cigar manufacturing plants to drive you out of business

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Cuba, seeing no objections to it's constitution after one and a half years available to the world takes it as a sign that the policies outlined therein are appropriate.

Cuban forces establish Bases on the nearby island of Haiti, the promise of work and a higher standard of living make the skirmish just that. only 4 Cubans and 17 Haitians were injured or killed before the people surrendered to Cuba.

Haitian and Dominican Citizens have been given the same rights as all the other citizens of Cuba, including accurate representation in the New Cuban Democracy.

Political Battles within Cuba:

Jose Rocalupe is getting criticism for his taking of a second wife, the people are claiming that it is against Catholic morals and should not be tolerated. Jose says that he has more than enough love to give, and he'd like to have someone around who'd be willing to recieve.

Currently there is no law in Cuba that says this is illegal, but the case is now going through the court system. It is helping to establish party lines in Cuba though, making the establishment of a Coalition government highly unlikely.

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To Italy:
It was not that we were rejected, it was that your allies ignored our nation, trying to say that some idoit fishing trip is more important then the nation of Austria. This insults our nation and we cannot sell you any cities, they are past of the Austrian Empire and will remain as such if we have any say in the matter. We simply do not understand how you could be allied with such natons as Germany and Russia.

To Britain(secret):
We would like to set up a joint project of developing an airforce with these new airplanes that seem to be very usefull in warfare. Our top scientist have been toying with the idea of making armored cars so to speak that have guns on them to help our infantry units in the flied of battle as well.

To United States:
We accept your terms of peace and will sign the treaty.

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Airforce project: 4 years
Early tanks(WWI erar tanks) : 2 years.

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Britain to Austria (SECRET) :

Agreed. We already have a very small aeorocraft corps, we can give you a few prototypes to speed your project, though honestly we are still having problems with the technical aspects of putting anything more potent than pop guns on them. We would also like to take part in the armored car project.

 
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