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OliverFA
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Leeds, UK
Sep 2002 time: 06:25
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That ship pretending to take Arnie back is not a good idea. An explorer is not worth enough to send a ship looking for him...
The warrior was in neutral territory. Now we know that they claim all that lands at the east as theirs...
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Togas
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California
Jun 2002 time: 21:25
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PM sent to Darekill & Picahulu
quote:
Darekill,
Thank you for your letter, although I have to admit I too am somewhat shocked at your response.
My intention was to communicate to you my people's concern and their misgivings. I believe that our good relationship is in danger if we keep acting suspicious of each other and watching each other like hawks.
As your nation took a great deal of new land to settle in from Lux Invicta by a massive display of force, we settled peacefully and took land via the use of our strong Spanish culture. We both have sufficient lands in which to settle on and we could very safely live side-by-side in peace ...
But I am sleepless these nights. My people learned well from the history of your breif war with Lux Invicta, and my people remind me how your scouts were inside Lux Invicta territory just prior to your invasion of them. My ministers constantly whisper in my ear that Arne is in our land to help guild the coming invasion of Spain ... to help pick the best spot to attack us!
It is a frightening thought that, although somewhat far-fetched, is gaining support amongst the nobles. I fear that this hysteria will lead both of our nations down the wrong path.
There is no debate: Arne has never crossed into our cultural borders, never interfered with our travel and has caused us no damage and for that I must commend you. You have been very polite guests. But you must admit that even a perfect guest can tire his host. Eventually, he wears out his welcome. I fear that we are at that point.
I send this letter not as a threat and not as a mask of some ill-deeds to come. Spain wishes to peacefully settle in the land that the gods have blessed us with and we wish to become the best of friends with your proud and strong nation. I send you this letter to ask this favor of you ... a favor that I hope you will give to me to help ease the tensions of my people and to create a strong bond of trust and friendship with you.
Please send Arne home.
If you do, I will be in your debt and should you need a favor from me in the future, just ask. I will try my best to return this favor to you.
Very truely yours,
--Togas, Ruler of Spain |
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Nuclear Winter
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From Dissident:
Trade for Currency
Greetings esteemed foreign affairs collegue. I hope your nation is going well. We both expressed desires for increased trading in our fireside chat on the Wittlich Straight beach the other day. And I hope we can do that. We are currently hoping for a deal for currency. We are currently researching that and hope to trade that with you for perhaps Polythesium in the future. If there is any difference in the cost our thinkers are expending I'm sure we can agree to make up the difference. Our nations thinkers are very picky about gold for their endeavers I understand. It is a bit early perhaps, but we do not want to wait too long as with Map Making. We would have liked to traded that with you if our other deal wasn't already finalized. Well it is time to get our crops planted for the spring season. So I bid you well, Dissident.
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Nuclear Winter
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What do you guys think I should do?
If I ask Vox when will they finish coinage they may get angry (and in fact it would be very rude). I think they must be about to finish it, or else they would not purpose such a trade....
How should I write the PM?
I am awaiting sugestions,
Nuclearis Winterius the II
Last edited by Nuclear Winter on 16-03-2003 at 22:21
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Togas
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California
Jun 2002 time: 21:25
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Long chat with Ghengis Farb this morning. Revealed the following:
(top secret, not to be shared with other nations)
Legoland offered to sell Republic, Construction, and Currency to GoW for 250g. He was trying to get us to chip in 50g and pay a portion of that. I told him not to do it. We don't want Republic. I told him not to do the deal at all, as it gives Legoland way too much cash. He insists that it's top secret, Legoland told him not to reveal it. I told him we'd keep it confidendital ... so long as he remembered to send us the gold from his Polytheism sales.
He agreed to send the Polytheism cash.
He is interested in a tech alliance, hopefully tieing in ND, as it seems that GS & Lux and now Lego are cooperating too much, and have pulled ahead of us in the tech race.
I said we would be very interested in a tech alliance and scolded him for giving away our tech lead to Legoland.
I told him we are considering a defensive alliance. He believes Vox & GS will "invade" our continent. I am more concerned about ND, but I indicated that an alliance would also protect us from GS & Vox if they did "invade" us. Most likely they'll move into Old Luxia.
He wanted to establish a southern coastal city in our south. I told him we'd be "pissed off" if they did. Told him we're building a harbor, they need to build one, and we both should trade via harbors. Offered to trade them iron so that ND doesn't crush them with Chivalry comes.
Cooperation seems to be increaseing. GoW is watching the rest of the world work together and they need a partner to keep up. I agree. We're going to fall behind and our large military budget is cutting into our technology.
GoW wants to whore Monarchy but I made it clear to Ghengis that I don't want to whore it. If we trade it, we will give it to a few key nations with no-trade clauses.
GoW had one very interesting idea ... declare war on Republic nations across the seas for the sole purpose of causing them War Weariness. The idea has some merit although I doubt GoW will be foolish enough to do it.
--Togas
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Nuclear Winter
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Just received this from dissident,need answers from the other FA´s.
Please answer as soon as possible, I don´t want to loose another deal!
quote: Greetings Roleplay- tech trades
How are things going. I hope your crops grow strong. Ours have been growing better lately. We do get rains in from Wittlich straight.
I think you asked about our polythesium deal with GOW. It is good they shared the wealth. I was out of the village at the time of the deal, and was not available to approve of it. I would have liked to pay less of our hard earned gold, but the deal was decent. I believe we payed 49 gold for Polythesium.
We got sidetracked in our plans for researching currency. And we are shopping around for it. Did your nation have intentions on buying it from New Demo? Perhaps you have better relations than we do. Their demands are steep. If need be, perhaps we can donate some gold to help sweeten the deal for New Demo, if you need the extra pursuasion to get the deal through. Say they may want 100 gold or so. We could give you 50 gold and we could share the tech between us. I was hoping you have a better influence on the nation of Neu Demo.
Until next time, may your crops grow tall, and your enemies remain small. Farewell, Dissident
tech tade add on
Greetins again. I just wanted to add a post script. If you find it easier to get currency through Legoland, by all means go through them. I'm not sure what is easier. I have no idea where Neu Demo stand on research actually. Thanks, Dissident.
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CiverDan
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War weariness has no affect at all in MP. I have been in continuous war in Republic for 20+ turns in MP games with no ill effects.
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History Guy
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Reads too many books...
Oct 2001 time: 23:25
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I don't trust the Warmongers, and here's why.
They're scared.
They want help and assistance. Whereas they once underestimated the Neu Demogypticans, they are now shaking in their chain-mail boots at the thought of them. They saw how powerful they were in war, and they know that the Arabs hate China. We've seen the Chinese building their cities on hills, wasting space, resources, and shields. We know also that they have no access to iron, and horses, I believe. Without these, how can they ever fight effectively? They know the Arabs are up to know good, and they've rightly decided that they would like to destroy them. They've noticed that we are gaining power, and they want our protection. Perhaps we would be wise to give it to them until the Arab threat is removed, but in that case I'd suggest taking care of Arabia and China before we discover a technology that my friend the sybyl calls 'Invention'.
...And as for the sybyl...She is just a friend!! REALLY!!
Fernand de History Guy Calamari
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Nuclear Winter
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Togas, be assured that if I did not post anything is because no answer has been received from Vox Controli.
I know that you cannot know if there was any contact between me and the vox controlians without my posts here. I do also know how to post messages.
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Togas
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California
Jun 2002 time: 21:25
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Deal with Legoland, struck today in chat with Vondrack:
quote:
Lego-RP Monarchy Trade Agreement of 1100BC
Hereby, the parties involved, Legoland and Roleplayers, agree upon the
following:
1) Legoland agrees to not sell, trade, or gift Monarchy to any other
team, but Roleplayers only.
2) Roleplayers agree to start paying 10 gold per turn on Turn 77
(1100BC) and keep doing so for the total of 20 consecutive turns
(paying 200 gold total in this way).
3) Legoland agrees to gift ("offer"+"accept") the technology of
Monarchy to Roleplayers on Turn 81 (1000BC), so that Roleplayers
receive it and can use it in whatever way they see fit from Turn 82
(975BC) onwards.
4) Roleplayers agree to pay an additional sum of 50 gold to Legoland
on Turn 102.
5) Both parties agree to keep this trade agreement top secret, never
revealing any details to a third party.
We agree to this treaty.
On behalf of Legoland: vondrack, The President
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