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OliverFA is offline OliverFA
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That ship pretending to take Arnie back is not a good idea. An explorer is not worth enough to send a ship looking for him...

The warrior was in neutral territory. Now we know that they claim all that lands at the east as theirs...

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PM sent to Darekill & Picahulu
quote:

Darekill,

Thank you for your letter, although I have to admit I too am somewhat shocked at your response.

My intention was to communicate to you my people's concern and their misgivings. I believe that our good relationship is in danger if we keep acting suspicious of each other and watching each other like hawks.

As your nation took a great deal of new land to settle in from Lux Invicta by a massive display of force, we settled peacefully and took land via the use of our strong Spanish culture. We both have sufficient lands in which to settle on and we could very safely live side-by-side in peace ...

But I am sleepless these nights. My people learned well from the history of your breif war with Lux Invicta, and my people remind me how your scouts were inside Lux Invicta territory just prior to your invasion of them. My ministers constantly whisper in my ear that Arne is in our land to help guild the coming invasion of Spain ... to help pick the best spot to attack us!

It is a frightening thought that, although somewhat far-fetched, is gaining support amongst the nobles. I fear that this hysteria will lead both of our nations down the wrong path.

There is no debate: Arne has never crossed into our cultural borders, never interfered with our travel and has caused us no damage and for that I must commend you. You have been very polite guests. But you must admit that even a perfect guest can tire his host. Eventually, he wears out his welcome. I fear that we are at that point.

I send this letter not as a threat and not as a mask of some ill-deeds to come. Spain wishes to peacefully settle in the land that the gods have blessed us with and we wish to become the best of friends with your proud and strong nation. I send you this letter to ask this favor of you ... a favor that I hope you will give to me to help ease the tensions of my people and to create a strong bond of trust and friendship with you.

Please send Arne home.

If you do, I will be in your debt and should you need a favor from me in the future, just ask. I will try my best to return this favor to you.

Very truely yours,

--Togas, Ruler of Spain

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Maybe my "pleading" approach actually worked!
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Dear Togas,
We are planning to withdraw Arne now anyway.
It grieves us that you think that we would treat peacefull and honest Spain like the luxian scumm that nerver headed to our advice and pleas.
Aren would have done never any harm to you and he will not do so on his way home.
Yours truely Darekill

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Sent back to Darekill:
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Darekill,

Thank you for your response and for decision. I have posted your messages to my people to help ease their fears and perhaps quell their paranoia a bit.

I am glad to know that if there are any problems or concerns in our future that we can discuss them and work them out. This gives me a lot of hope for our future.

I have recently appointed a new Ambassador to your nation. Senor History Guy, a very fine Diplomat indeed, has befallen an unfortunate disease ... it's the jungle, we believe. He traveled through it many times to visit you and he has recently grown very ill. His family now cares for him and we hope to see him survive this illness.

Senor WhereItsAt will serve as ambassador to your nation until Senor History Guy recovers. I have given him instructions and I will have him contact you soon. He will stay a while at the Embassy in Neu Theben, getting to know your people and taking some time to understand your culture.

You should contact him for all standard purposes, but feel free to contact me directly should you require my personal attention.

I send my best regards to you and your people,

--Togas, Ruler of Spain

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MrWhereItsAt -- Compose a nice letter to introduce yourself to our northern neighbors. I need to know when they will be done with Currency as Vox has offered to make a future trade deal with us for Currency and we need to know who will finish first.

--Togas

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From Dissident:
Trade for Currency
Greetings esteemed foreign affairs collegue. I hope your nation is going well. We both expressed desires for increased trading in our fireside chat on the Wittlich Straight beach the other day. And I hope we can do that. We are currently hoping for a deal for currency. We are currently researching that and hope to trade that with you for perhaps Polythesium in the future. If there is any difference in the cost our thinkers are expending I'm sure we can agree to make up the difference. Our nations thinkers are very picky about gold for their endeavers I understand. It is a bit early perhaps, but we do not want to wait too long as with Map Making. We would have liked to traded that with you if our other deal wasn't already finalized. Well it is time to get our crops planted for the spring season. So I bid you well, Dissident.
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What do you guys think I should do?
If I ask Vox when will they finish coinage they may get angry (and in fact it would be very rude). I think they must be about to finish it, or else they would not purpose such a trade....
How should I write the PM?
I am awaiting sugestions,

Nuclearis Winterius the II

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Togas, I thank you again, my Lord and King. When things lighten up a bit, perhaps I'll have the time to come back and do so (though that may be quite a while from now). Until then, I know that Senor Where It's At, one of my father's best friends, will be a splendid replacement.

Fernand de History Guy Calamari

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Originally posted by Togas
Senor WhereItsAt will serve as ambassador to your nation until Senor History Guy recovers. I have given him instructions and I will have him contact you soon. He will stay a while at the Embassy in Neu Theben, getting to know your people and taking some time to understand your culture.

You should contact him for all standard purposes, but feel free to contact me directly should you require my personal attention.





* MrWhereItsAt goes to find these Darekill and Picahulu people.

Hope I haven't missed my burro!

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Long chat with Ghengis Farb this morning. Revealed the following:

(top secret, not to be shared with other nations)

Legoland offered to sell Republic, Construction, and Currency to GoW for 250g. He was trying to get us to chip in 50g and pay a portion of that. I told him not to do it. We don't want Republic. I told him not to do the deal at all, as it gives Legoland way too much cash. He insists that it's top secret, Legoland told him not to reveal it. I told him we'd keep it confidendital ... so long as he remembered to send us the gold from his Polytheism sales.

He agreed to send the Polytheism cash.

He is interested in a tech alliance, hopefully tieing in ND, as it seems that GS & Lux and now Lego are cooperating too much, and have pulled ahead of us in the tech race.

I said we would be very interested in a tech alliance and scolded him for giving away our tech lead to Legoland.

I told him we are considering a defensive alliance. He believes Vox & GS will "invade" our continent. I am more concerned about ND, but I indicated that an alliance would also protect us from GS & Vox if they did "invade" us. Most likely they'll move into Old Luxia.

He wanted to establish a southern coastal city in our south. I told him we'd be "pissed off" if they did. Told him we're building a harbor, they need to build one, and we both should trade via harbors. Offered to trade them iron so that ND doesn't crush them with Chivalry comes.

Cooperation seems to be increaseing. GoW is watching the rest of the world work together and they need a partner to keep up. I agree. We're going to fall behind and our large military budget is cutting into our technology.

GoW wants to whore Monarchy but I made it clear to Ghengis that I don't want to whore it. If we trade it, we will give it to a few key nations with no-trade clauses.

GoW had one very interesting idea ... declare war on Republic nations across the seas for the sole purpose of causing them War Weariness. The idea has some merit although I doubt GoW will be foolish enough to do it.

--Togas

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Just received this from dissident,need answers from the other FA´s.
Please answer as soon as possible, I don´t want to loose another deal!
quote:
Greetings Roleplay- tech trades
How are things going. I hope your crops grow strong. Ours have been growing better lately. We do get rains in from Wittlich straight.

I think you asked about our polythesium deal with GOW. It is good they shared the wealth. I was out of the village at the time of the deal, and was not available to approve of it. I would have liked to pay less of our hard earned gold, but the deal was decent. I believe we payed 49 gold for Polythesium.

We got sidetracked in our plans for researching currency. And we are shopping around for it. Did your nation have intentions on buying it from New Demo? Perhaps you have better relations than we do. Their demands are steep. If need be, perhaps we can donate some gold to help sweeten the deal for New Demo, if you need the extra pursuasion to get the deal through. Say they may want 100 gold or so. We could give you 50 gold and we could share the tech between us. I was hoping you have a better influence on the nation of Neu Demo.

Until next time, may your crops grow tall, and your enemies remain small. Farewell, Dissident
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Greetins again. I just wanted to add a post script. If you find it easier to get currency through Legoland, by all means go through them. I'm not sure what is easier. I have no idea where Neu Demo stand on research actually. Thanks, Dissident.

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Nuc Winter -- Let vox know that we are planning to buy Currency from either ND or Legoland, depending on who offers the lowest price. We would be happy to split the cost with Vox, though, and we'd like to meet with them to chat about it and work out the details.

--Togas

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quote:
Originally posted by Togas
GoW had one very interesting idea ... declare war on Republic nations across the seas for the sole purpose of causing them War Weariness. The idea has some merit although I doubt GoW will be foolish enough to do it.
--Togas


Also war weariness is much lower when the republican/democratic nation is the 'attacked' one...

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War weariness has no affect at all in MP. I have been in continuous war in Republic for 20+ turns in MP games with no ill effects.

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I have made informal contact with Darekill of Neu Demogyptica. Picahulu, the official Amabssador, has disappeared, and Darekill, although very busy, has told me he will handle any contact we need with ND. I told him I understood the amount of time required and that he would hear from me only when it was important.

Luckily he checks his 'Poly PMs frequentyy, else I have no idea how to find these guys!

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I don't trust the Warmongers, and here's why.

They're scared.

They want help and assistance. Whereas they once underestimated the Neu Demogypticans, they are now shaking in their chain-mail boots at the thought of them. They saw how powerful they were in war, and they know that the Arabs hate China. We've seen the Chinese building their cities on hills, wasting space, resources, and shields. We know also that they have no access to iron, and horses, I believe. Without these, how can they ever fight effectively? They know the Arabs are up to know good, and they've rightly decided that they would like to destroy them. They've noticed that we are gaining power, and they want our protection. Perhaps we would be wise to give it to them until the Arab threat is removed, but in that case I'd suggest taking care of Arabia and China before we discover a technology that my friend the sybyl calls 'Invention'.

...And as for the sybyl...She is just a friend!! REALLY!!

Fernand de History Guy Calamari

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Mr.WIA -- Contact ND and chat it up with them. Let them know we're shopping around for a deal on Currency and trying to find the best price. Find out from them how much they'd charge us in gold for Currency.

NucWinter -- You need to post all correspondence to and from Vox in this thread. I can't tell if you've written Vox or if they've written us unless you do so.

Contact Vox, let them know we're going to try to get a good price from ND for currency and we'd like to split the costs with them. Also ask them if they plan to sell Currency to GS and if so, we'd rather that GS, Vox, and RP split the cost 3 ways than to have one of us get the benefit from the additional sale.

--Togas

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Togas, be assured that if I did not post anything is because no answer has been received from Vox Controli.
I know that you cannot know if there was any contact between me and the vox controlians without my posts here. I do also know how to post messages.

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Nuc -- I see their message from the 18th, and my instructions for you to respond, but I can't tell if you responded or not unless you post a copy of your message to the forum.

No sarcasm or insults intended. This is a matter of procedure and record keeping that I need all ambassadors to do.

--Togas

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Mr.WIA -- Urgent. Contact Neu Dem about signing a new Non-Agg pact. Our present one runs out in 1000bc!

Work towards a 30 turn pact.

--Togas

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OK... attempting to do so.

I just got that order - it was posted at 2am my time.

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Ghengis Farb included the following message with the save:
quote:

One of our galleys has begun exploring the Lego coast.


My reply to him:
quote:




We'll be very interested to see the map when it's done.

One of my guys suggested that you might want to split costs with us on the investigation of a few of the ND cities. We'd send you the screenshots. We're curious to know if they're in a heavy REX mode, and see what their coastal city is building.

Also, let me know if you hear anything from Legoland. Vondrack sent me a PM this morning asking to chat, but he's AWAY right now. I'm curious to see if he's going to offer us the same deal he offered you.

Polytheism has spread over the globe. If you guys would like to share a few additional proceeds with us, we'd be grateful.

--Togas

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Ghengis writes back:
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The only people we sold it to was Vox for 49. It is
becoming very difficult to crack some of the trade
cartels.

We are negotiating with Vox to trade them Construction
for Monotheism. They want Construction and 110 gold.
If Roleplay would be interested in sharing the gold
cost we would be willing to share Monotheism with you
(we might as well start doing the tech purchase
sharing too since the other teams are).


I replied that it was a bad deal, as Vox gets Monotheism for free. I told Ghengis we'd check with Vox to see if we could get a better deal and that we were interested in doing tech cooperation with GoW as GS & Vox appear to have the same sort of arrangement.

--Togas

p.s. I am suspicious about this deal, and I doubt that GoW only sold Poly to Vox ... but at this point it does us no good to argue about it. We want to keep GoW on good terms to balance against ND, and we also want to start working on getting friendlier with Vox.

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Deal with Legoland, struck today in chat with Vondrack:
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Lego-RP Monarchy Trade Agreement of 1100BC

Hereby, the parties involved, Legoland and Roleplayers, agree upon the
following:

1) Legoland agrees to not sell, trade, or gift Monarchy to any other
team, but Roleplayers only.

2) Roleplayers agree to start paying 10 gold per turn on Turn 77
(1100BC) and keep doing so for the total of 20 consecutive turns
(paying 200 gold total in this way).

3) Legoland agrees to gift ("offer"+"accept") the technology of
Monarchy to Roleplayers on Turn 81 (1000BC), so that Roleplayers
receive it and can use it in whatever way they see fit from Turn 82
(975BC) onwards.

4) Roleplayers agree to pay an additional sum of 50 gold to Legoland
on Turn 102.

5) Both parties agree to keep this trade agreement top secret, never
revealing any details to a third party.

We agree to this treaty.
On behalf of Legoland: vondrack, The President

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Message received from Darekill of Neu Demogyptica team within the last 24 hours.

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Originally sent by WIA
Gidday from the Roleplay team Ambassador's residence.

I am writing on request of Lord Togas in order to chat about a deal we wish to make. We are currently canvassing teams to get a hold of Currency, and would be eager to hear whether we could try to come to an agreement over it with you, if you are willing to sell.

Furthermore, I am informed that our non-aggression pact ends in 1000BC, and I have been authorised to seek its extension, in the hope we can take our friendly cooperation and coexistence to new levels.

Please let me know if and where we can chat about this.

MrWIA.

quote:

Hi my dear MrWIA.
We are currently researching currency. But we will not be ready with it for another several turns. We'll let you know if we have it. Do you know what you would be willing to pay for it.

As for the NAP we can prolong it for another 20 turns would that be okay for you. Our Relationship has always been peacefull and shall stay that way.

Yours truely Darekill Governor of Neu Demogyptica


Sounds all good here, really. With your permission, Supreme Beatitude Togas, I will convey the acceptance of the non-agression pact to them and any replies on the Currency deal.

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Mr.Wia -- Go ahead and sign a new Non-Agg for 20 more turns. Also inquire as to what they will charge for Currency. Let them know that we are working on Monarchy and should have it soon. We can't trade it directly for Currency, it's research expense was far more expensive for us, but we may be willing to trade it for two techs, an advanced tech, and/or some gold.

NucWinter -- Contact Vox and express to them our extreme regret for the affairs of today, and for the cold reception they received upon landing on our continent. Explain to them that we have agreed to a pact with ND and GoW regarding the settlement of our continent and that if we hadn't agreed, they would surely band together against us. Tell them that we will honor our Non-Agg pact with them no matter what happens with their settlement, but that we urge them to please not start a war with ND and GoW ... both of whom are itching to fight someone.

Tell them that ND will be offering us a price for Currency soon (MrWIA is waiting for their reply) and we will convey to them the price and split it with them so long as they agree not to trade/sell it to GS. If GS gets involved, we want GS to pay 1/3 of the price.

--Togas

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AdaMada -- Contact GoW and inform them that we will have Monarchy soon, and that we'd like to start discussing possible trades/sales of the tech. Tell them that we'd like to aquire Construction + 150 gold for it ... we are presently negotiating with ND for Currency.

--Togas

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PM to ND sent. The hard-working and quick-responding Darekill should respond shortly.

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PM returned from Darekill and acknowledged by me just now.

quote:


...random friendly banter...

But now to the buissiness.

1. The extension of the Non Agression Pact for 20 turns beyond 1000BC is now official and sealed.

2. We need several turns for currency still so we will contact you if we are almost done with it.

3. We are looking to get Republik which will fit our system we have in the game best. Monarchy is not bad but it is not that valuable for us so i guess we can not come to a trading agreement there.

Your Friend
Darekill governor of Neu Demogyptica

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adaMada -- Find out if GoW wants to split the cost of investigating Arneblanca, the ND coastal city, with us. Cost to them is 10g.

--Togas

 
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