18-02-2003 07:30									#121
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quote: Originally posted by cia Ask Qadaffi about US calling cards.

Last time I checked Ghadaffi was alive and well.

	18-02-2003 07:32									#122
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quote: Originally posted by DuncanK Spiffor tends to only get defensive when you attack Europeans. He doesn't seem affected by the constants jokes at France. Not that you are all that defensive Spiffor.

Duncan : I'm affected when jokes lie on common misconceptions everybody assumes for being true. Frenchmen being cowards ; Frenchmen being dirty ; French women not shaving... Since I see these jokes coming back every time, I get very defensive against them, because I feel you Americans really think the French shower occasionally, and French women don't shave (trust me they do )

When you guys joke on our pathetic president, or our pathetic military (official France's laughingstock), I'm more than glad to join

I also insist on detering false misconceptions on Europeans. Were I American, I guess I'd get ticked by all the "cowboy" jokes, because they are fed by common misconceptions of Europeans (granted, these conceptions are entirely true toward Texans )

	18-02-2003 07:33									#123
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Blowing up a house of his was a clear warning, better go to sleep with the radar on.

	18-02-2003 07:37									#124
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor When you guys joke on our pathetic president,...

I donīt even think he is *that* pathetic. As European 'leaders' go, I prefer Chirac to a freak like Blair.

	18-02-2003 07:39									#125
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quote: Originally posted by cia Blowing up a house of his was a clear warning, better go to sleep with the radar on.

I think the cowards tried to kill him outright, but fortunately the only reliable thing about America is the unreliability of its equipment.

	18-02-2003 07:41									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune I donīt even think he is *that* pathetic. As European 'leaders' go, I prefer Chirac to a freak like Blair.

Chirac is the worse President France has got in the whole Fifth Republic (before that, the prez had an unsignificant role). Then again, all State leaders are the worst these times

	18-02-2003 07:44									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Chirac is the worse President France has got in the whole Fifth Republic

When is the Sixth Republic supposed to start?

	18-02-2003 07:49									#128
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When Le Pen will win.

	18-02-2003 07:49									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Then again, all State leaders are the worst these times

Donīt tell ME; our current Kanzler is the greatest disaster in 50 years.

	18-02-2003 10:07									#130
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2774003.stm North Korea has threatened to pull out of the armistice agreement that ended the Korean War, accusing the United States of breaking the terms of the truce. The statement, carried by the official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), accused the United States of breaking the truce by bolstering its forces in the region and mounting a naval blockade.

If the US breaks the terms of the armistice by building up in the area or mounting a blockade, why is DPRK blamed for making this statement? Blame the US.

	18-02-2003 10:11									#131
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UR: What blockade?

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quote: For instance, Pentagon planners are looking closely at using American military forces to stop, turn back or seize ships and aircraft from North Korea that are suspected of carrying missiles or nuclear weapons materials, officials said. The sale of missile technology to Iran, Iraq and other countries has been a major source of foreign currency for the impoverished North Korea, American officials contend.

This thread

	18-02-2003 10:20									#133
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So there is no blockade and the DPRK and you are just blustering.

	18-02-2003 10:26									#134
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quote: Originally posted by Sandman Fact is, it was the Axis of Evil speech and subsequent American actions that spurred North Korea into this.

Right. It was Bush's speech about the Axis of Evil that caused North Korea to restart it's nuclear program years beforehand.

	18-02-2003 10:31									#135
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quote: What business did they have to meddle in SE Asia?

Yeah, that pesky UN, getting it's nose into things that shouldn't concern it...

	18-02-2003 10:35									#136
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quote: Last time I checked Ghadaffi was alive and well.

Yes, he is alive.

	18-02-2003 10:40									#137
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc So there is no blockade and the DPRK and you are just blustering.

So there is no ending of armistice by DPRK. Why are you blustering?

	18-02-2003 10:41									#138
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quote: Originally posted by Edan Right. It was Bush's speech about the Axis of Evil that caused North Korea to restart it's nuclear program years beforehand.

Cite?

	18-02-2003 10:42									#139
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You're the one getting hysterical with the smilies when talking about blockades and the like.

	18-02-2003 10:45									#140
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I read that the US had stopped a NK vessel and searched it. It was a piece at cnn.com

	18-02-2003 10:46									#141
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Cite?

Why don't you show us credible information that they restarted thier program and extracted enough weapons grade material from it in the amount of time from the "Axis of Evil" speech and today?

	18-02-2003 10:49									#142
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Did Kim really decide to suicide his country in a big boom or what ? I hope he's a reasonable leader, who just uses hard talk to reinforce his bargaining position, but I can't say I'm sure. The more time passes, the more NK's poistion seems suicidal.

quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune I believe he is a reasonable leader...

This has got to be the most curious exchange.

	18-02-2003 10:57									#143
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Cite?

They were enriching uranium since 1997, in violation of their agreement with the US. I'll see if I can find a cite.

	18-02-2003 11:00									#144
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U.S. saw North Korea's work to enrich fuel for nukes

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021018-82935839.htm

	18-02-2003 11:03									#145
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They violated an agreement with the UN I believe

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quote: 6) When did the plant get started/program begin? "We discovered this problem. I mean, everybody thought the agreed framework froze North Korea's nuclear aspirations. It turned out that it was misdirection. While everybody was watching Yongbyon and seeing that it was frozen, the North Koreans had started moving in a new direction with respect to the enrichment of uranium. And this didn't happen just in the last year or two. It's a decision they made and a program they started four or so years ago, and we found out about it this summer. And we confronted the North Koreans with it." (Secretary Colin Powell, Fox News Sunday, December 29, 2002) "They were motivated some four, five years ago, if not earlier, to make the political decision to move down the road of finding a second way of developing a nuclear weapon." (Secretary Colin Powell, NBC Meet the Press, December 29, 2002) "'However, we did not obtain clear evidence indicating the North had begun constructing a centrifuge facility until recently,' the CIA said. 'We assess that North Korea embarked on the effort to develop a centrifuge-based uranium enrichment program about two years ago.' "Last year, procurement agents for North Korea 'began seeking centrifuge-related materials in large quantities,' the CIA said, noting that the North Koreans 'also obtained equipment suitable for use in uranium feed and withdrawal systems.'" ("North Korea Can Build Nukes Right Now," By Bill Gertz, Washington Times, November 22, 2002) "The North Korean side attempted to blame this situation on recent U.S. policy, but I pointed out that this was inconsistent with information we had that their uranium enrichment program is already several years old." (Press Conference with James Kelly, Assistant Secretary for East Asian and Pacific Affairs, October 19, 2002)

http://www.ceip.org/files/nonprolif...asp?NewsID=3871

	18-02-2003 11:06									#147
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Under a 1995 agreement, the Korean Peninsula Energy Development Corp (KEDO) agreed to supply the north with 500,000 tonnes of heavy fuel oil a year in exchange for the freezing of Pyongyang's nuclear program.

But deliveries came to an end after North Korea said in October it had continued its nuclear weapons program in secret since 1994.

-cnn

	18-02-2003 11:17									#148
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Basically the North Koreans promised the world that they would not try to obtain nuclear weapons back in 1994. In return the world offered them food and energy. They took advantage of the worlds trust and secretly worked to produce nukes and to build up their army. And now they (and some Euros here) are complaining about the US breaking their agreements. It wont fly. The US, and the world, should be under no obligation to stick to any agreements they have made with NK, because NK is obviously not going to stick to their agreements.

	18-02-2003 11:38									#149
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quote: Originally posted by Ned I think the EU needs to send troops to replace US forces. This guy to the North of the 38th parallel is really crazy and a lot of Americans could end up being killed. It is high time for the Euros to take up some of the burden of policing the world against the insane.

You're an idiot. Why should the Euros enforce your foreign policy?

	18-02-2003 11:38									#150
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Oh come on! Surely Kim is a reasonable leader?!