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nbarclay
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Huntsville, Alabama
Dec 1999
time: 23:27
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Quote from Ghengis's message:
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Giving Inchon to Roleplay to move vast numbers of troops to invade Bob is HOSTILE ACTIVITY. Landing large numbers of troops on Bob with your fleet is HOSTILE ACTIVITY. |
Our knowledge of what really happen influences how we read this. Since we know it was RP troops that teleported, our first instinct seems to be to read it that way. But at the time of the gift, RP's galley was a far out of GoW's sight. And from a linguistic perspective "move vast numbers of troops to invade Bob" could just as easily, perhaps even more easily, be read as "move vast numbers of GS troops so those troops can be loaded onto galleys quickly to invade Bob." (Granted, that would make the two charges somewhat redundant, but I can't see that bothering GF too much.  ) So it is entirely possible, just from reading the post, that GoW is putting two and two together and getting five. (And I think UnO's inquiry also omitted the issue of whose troops were in Inchon.)
Of course this particular line of reasoning is aburd in any case, since nothing in our NAP with GoW precluded us from sending vast numbers of troops to Bob in order to engage in hostile activities against ND or RP, nor would it preclude helping RP engage in hostile activities against ND or vice versa. Indeed, GoW originally seemed to want us to send troops to Bob to engage in hostile activities against RP.
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:27
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If there was a mole, wouldn't GoW have been *****ing about the catapults? I've seen nary a word (and that's a lot of words after being gone for a few days) about the cats. If they knew, I would think that would make their case a lot stronger.
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:27
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The question I have is: what do we want them to do?
1. Stop attacking RP-I think this is a given
2. Attack ND
3. Attack ND and Lego
Obviously the latter two options will require a higher payment
And the problem with GoW is that they rarely live up to their end of the bargain, ie. the two horse landing, the edited screenshots.
That's my biggest concern, coming to an agreement, paying them considerably then them weasling out of it.
thinking along Arrian's line-Kill ND, GoW takes most of the land. RP gains most of its land back. We have a city on a source of saltpeter. If there is one near the coast. Also, gaining Invention and gunpowder possibly.
With thoughts towards a future joint attack on Lego
we have what,over 1k gold now? perhaps an old fashioned bribe is in order.
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OPD
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Birmingham UK
Jun 2002
time: 05:27
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Kind of an annoying message from GoW. Not that anything less would be expected though...
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Right now, the official position of GoW is that we are at war with RP, and that any conflicts with Gathering Storm is no more or less than collateral of that war. As such, there are those that would not like to see RP survive the current conflict.
However, we are currently under contract to remove RP from Bob. The concensus on the team is that we need to follow through with that contract to it's end. After this contract is concluded, though, we will, as a team, be open to accepting RP's future from that point.
So, the answer to your original question is both yes and no. We cannot stop aggression on RP at this time. However, once our current contract is resolved, we are open to nearly any new contract.
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the problem here being that they will be unable to fullfill their current contract without GS giving in.
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For a Price.
That price will include a good portion of Bob, I will tell you that now, and that would include access to at least one source of all resources, though we are discussing possibility of having those gifted to us.
From our point of view, we are already promised half of Bob by tiles and resources under our current contract. A contract with a nation you already agree has been faithfull and peacefull unto us.
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Promised doesn't mean sh*t if it's not going to happen. A GS promise of half of bob is worth alot more than an ND one.
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Basically, would GS accept removal of RP from Bob as a condition to be met before GoW can enter into a new contract?
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I suppose it's an option
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Secondly, if so, what is GS and her allies willing to pay GoW for assistance in attacking ND? An assistance which offers the greatest risk to GoW, not any of the others involved.
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I think there's alot less risk involved than that which they are currently in.
The main thing we offer GoW is not taking them out of the game, or at least not razing Imperial city. Although perhaps they don't see it that way.
Other than that this looks promising, the previous examples of GoW carrying out a contract in the lamest/most pointless way, are promising too.
Perhaps with a yellowknife landing and 7 or 8 galleys headed in the direction of Imperial city they might be even more interested in a deal.
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:27
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I like how they didn't have a problem breaking their contract with us, ie. the screenshots of Vox's army, but this one, oh this one is a sacred cow.
screw 'em.
off topic:
new kitten theseus?
I just got a 2 month old male on thursday, quite a handful. little sleep for the wife and myself, but a lot of fun
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