12-04-2004 22:36									#1
	Turn 176, 600 AD Got spare money?

Status

- Republic
- Researching Astronomy (825 beakers stored, need 1344 beakers total, 3 turns left)
- Treasury 230 gold (end of last turn), +33 (+120 CGN + 60 CFC) gpt, = 443 gold (at begining of turn).
- Running at 5/5/0 Sci/Tax/Lux

- Anticipated start of GA - Turn 224


Ministry of the Interior

Economy:

Lakeveiw - building Settler (turn 4 of 10 sched).
For More Info on this, see Moving Lakeview - Case for this
Mingapulco - building University (turn 3 of 13 sched). Change build to Knight (turn 3 of 4 sched). Shortrush to Longbowman, 11 shields for 44 Gold.

Chiquita - building Market (turn 5 of 12 sched).
special for this city
If Plans #1 or #2 - NC.
If Plan #3 - change build to Barracks (turn 5 of 5 sched).

Bananatopia - building Uni (turn 6 of 16 sched-STEALTH). Change build to Knight (turn 6 of 6 sched).
Incensity - building Galley (turn 3 of 4 sched).

Dominus - building Market (turn 5 of 14 sched).
special for this city
If Plan #1 - NC.
If Plans #2 or #3 - change build to Barracks (turn 5 of 7 sched). Shortrush to Catapult, 3 shields for 12 Gold.

Tripoli - building Aquaduct (turn 6 of 12 sched). Change build to Knight (turn 6 of 7 sched).
Mu - building Courthouse (turn 5 of ??TBD?? sched).
Hispanica - Galley built, start Galley (turn 1 of 5 sched).
Power of Victory - building Library (turn 17 of 22 sched).
Eisten Boulen - building Courthouse (turn 8 of ??TBD?? sched).
Karina - building Aquaduct (turn 5 of 10 sched).
Lux Invicta - building Worker (turn 3 of 3 sched).
Big Bend - building Market (turn 10 of 18 sched).
BigFurryCity - building Aquaduct (turn 12 of 16 sched).
Apolyton Prime - building Colusseum (turn 3 of 6 sched).
This is the STEALTH prebuild start of the Hanging Gardens wonder project, due to complete on turn 191
Set Governor to Emphasize Production in ALL cities!!
Del Monte - building Library (turn 15 of 28 sched).
Heart of Darkness - building Aquaduct (turn 7 of 10 sched). Change build to Harbor (turn 7 of 8 sched). Shortrush to Musketman, 3 shields for 12 Gold.
Elucidium Novem - building Granary (turn 6 of 12 sched).
Note: EN is a designated Worker Pump.
Silk Road - building Courthouse (turn 14 of ??TBD?? sched).
Arcadia - building Granary (turn 23 of 25 sched).
Zenophobia - building Granary (turn 3 of 12 sched).THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUILDING A GRANARY, change it to that, please.
Note: Zeno is a designated Worker Pump.
Solace - building Aquaduct (turn 8 of 26 sched).
Down Under - building Courthouse (turn 16 of ??TBD?? sched).
Lumentis Bananais - building Library (turn 14 of ??TBD?? sched). Change build to Galley (turn 14 of 21 sched).
Antlergrad - building Courthouse (turn 13 of ??TBD?? sched).
Area X - building Harbor (turn 13 of 27 sched).

Heros' Summit- building Courthouse (turn 12 of ??TBD?? sched).
special for this city
If Plans #1 or #2 - NC.
If Plan #3 - change build to Longbow (storage for Caravel) (turn 12 of 16 sched). Shortrush to Catapult, 17 shields for 68 Gold.

Mongoose Abyss - building Temple (turn 11 of ??TBD?? sched).
special for this city
If Plan #1 - NC.
If Plans #2 or #3 - change build to Galley (turn 11 of 17 sched).

Lumen Musae - building Courthouse (turn 11 of ??TBD?? sched).
Protuberance - building Courthouse (turn 10 of ??TBD?? sched). Change build to Galley (turn 10 of 18 sched).
Kanaola - building Harbor (turn 10 of ??TBD?? sched).
Note: this might change
Cyrene- building Catapult (turn 3 of ??TBD?? sched).
Eye- building Courthouse (turn 9 of ??TBD?? sched).
Vox Publica - building Courthouse (turn 9 of ??TBD?? sched).
Memoria Fraxia - building Courthouse (turn 7 of ??TBD?? sched).


Rushing

See Short, Throughput & Regular Rushing Turn by Turn Approval Thread for general rushing requests
and see Turn 171, 550AD post in that thread for this turn's specific requests and approvals.
Edit the post link when coping and pasting.

Mingapulco - 11 sheilds at 44 gold.
Heart of Darkness - 3 sheilds at 12 gold.
IF Plans #2 or #3 - Dominus - 3 shields at 12 gold.
IF Plan #3 - Hero's - 17 shields at 68 gold. This can be delayed 2 turns, at a cost of 4 more gold, by getting this boat from Lumen Musue instead of Hero's

Total this turn = 56 gold OR 68 gold OR 136 Gold.


Worker Force:

Lakeveiw - starting WF 3-7. NC.
Mingapulco - starting WF 3-6-7-8-9-10-15. NC.

Chiquita - starting WF 1-5-6-8-13-14.
special for this city
If Plans #1 or #2 - Change WF to 1-2-5-6-8-13.
If Plan #3 - Change WF to 1-2-5-8-12-13.

Bananatopia - starting WF 1-2-4-8-13-16-19 (working Game). NC.
Incensity - starting WF 5-6-7-16-17. NC.
Dominus - (grows this turn) starting WF 1-2-??6??-7-8. Change WF to 1-2-6-8-19.
Tripoli - starting WF 7-8-9-17-18-19. Change WF to 2-7-9-17-18-19.
Mu - starting WF 16. Change WF to 18.
Hispanica - starting WF 1-2-3-4-12. NC.
Power of Victory - starting WF 3-5-9-10. Change WF to 3-9-10-14.
Eisten Boulen - starting WF 4. NC.
Karina - (grows this turn) starting WF 3-4-11-13-??17??-18. Change WF to 3-4-11-13-17-18.
LuxInvicta - starting WF 1-2-10-11. NC.
Big Bend - (grows this turn) starting WF 1-3-4-??6??-8. Change WF to 1-3-4-6-8.
BigFurryCity - starting WF 5-6-7-8-18-20. NC.
Apolyton Prime - starting WF 1-2-3-4-6-10-17-19-20 & 1 Entertainer. NC.
Del Monte - starting WF 1-10-11. Change WF to 4-10-11.
Heart of Darkness - starting WF 3-4-5-10-13-17. Change WF to 3-4-10-13-17-18.
Elucidium Novem - starting WF 2-3-6-8. NC.
Silk Road - starting WF 9-19. NC.
Arcadia - starting WF 2-6-7-8. NC.
Zenophobia - starting WF 2-4-8. Change WF to 1-2-4.
Solace - starting WF 2-8. NC.
Down Under - (grows this turn) starting WF 2-10-??12??. Change WF to 2-10-12.
Lumentis Bananais - starting WF 3-6-13. Change WF to 3-13-15.
Antlergrad - starting WF 10-11. NC,
Area X - starting WF 3-5. NC.
Hero's Summit - starting WF 6-7. NC.
Mongoose Abyss - starting WF 6. Change WF to 5.
Lumen Musae - starting WF 1. NC,
Protuberance - Starting WF 20. NC.
Kanaola - starting WF 7. NC.
Cyrene - starting WF 6. NC.
Eye - starting WF 1. NC.
Vox Publica - starting WF 4. Change WF to 20.
Freedom City - starting WF 6. NC.
Memoria Fraxia - starting WF 17. Change WF to 8.


Workers:

Frodo & Out of Darkness - move 9-9-9 (headed to Tripoli Iron).
changing this one
Horse & Squid - move 4 (headed to Tripoli Iron).

Otto - Mine (4 turns to complete)
Press Gang 1 (PG 1 to 6) - move 9.
Silky & Yo (Slave Anarchy is still Roading) - Road (2 turns to complete).
Screech - Road (3 turns to complete).
Sanchez - Road (3 turns to complete).
Grumpy - Mine (not done yet).
Press Gang 3 (PG 9 to 12) - move 7-4 (joining Grumpy) and Mine (done).
Press Gang 2 (PG 7 & 8) - Road (2 turns to complete).
Spike & Moosefart - Road (done).
Dan, Lan & Gits - Road (done).
Lib & Slave Farb - Road (3 turns to complete).
Bashful - Irrigation done, worker frozen.
BigFurryWorker - Irrigation done, worker frozen.
Panagoon - Mine done, worker frozen.
Sleepy - Mine done, worker frozen.
Go3 (MrWIA, EVC & Dejon) - Mine done, workers frozen.
Rush - Mine done, worker frozen.
rah - Mine done, worker frozen.
Moe - Mine done, worker frozen.
Larry & Empress - Tile cleared, workers frozen.
Curly - 2 turns left to Mine.
Monkee & CalcII - 5 turns left to clear jungle.
Mark - 4 turns left to Mine.


Settlers:

See General Overall City Placement Plan #1 for locations
Also, see
Phase 4: Post Palace Move for the Phase 4 sites

Settler Chiquta B (at Site #9) - build city, name this city Mauretania, set build to ??Catapult??, set WF to 6.
Apolyton Refugees (at Site #11) - build city, name this city Remembrance, set build to Wealth, set WF to 8.
Equilibrium Refugees (headed to Site #19) - move 1, build city, name this city Thunder Bay, set build to Courthouse, set WF to 20.
NOTE: End of Phase 4 and Settlement plan

Turn Real Results: from the actual

Beaker Power = 350 BPT
Cash Power = 372 GPT
At 50% = 186 BPT & +46 GPT
186 (this turn, @50%) + 825 (previous) = 1011 beakers towards Astronomy
1344 - 1011 = 333 left after this turn (3 more turns).
GNP = 459
Mfg = 166
Prod = 616
GPT = +46 (+106 CFC)

MoW thread

Unit Roster



Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Foreign Affairs thread

EDIT by con: SEND SILKS TO CFC THIS TURN!!!!!!

Last edited by E_T on 24-05-2004 at 20:12

	12-04-2004 22:38									#2
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Urgent Business for This Turn

Economic:

To be edited by the Consul/MoI


Military:

Logicitcal Moments for War Prep Map
Possible CFC Strike and where at
And a Possible Strike at Parth
Initial plans and costs
All Plans - what will be the same
Plan #1 - 11 boats
Plan #2 - 12 boats
Plan #3 - 13 boats
What boats are for where

to be edited by the Consuls


Diplomatic:

Send Silks accepted to CFC!

Edit by E_T:
Starting with this turn, we start offering Remembrance to CGN, accepted, every turn. This will allow them to denign it up to the last point, when things are about to be totally lost.

To be edited by Consuls/FAM


Other:

Decide whether to go ahead with GWT FP surgical strike!

Edit by E_T:
Names for Cities Yet to be built (or renamed):

* Site #9 to be named Mauretania
* Site #11 to be named Remembrance
* Site #19 to be named Thunder Bay

To be Edited by the Consuls

Link to turn 161 report
Edit link to point to previous turn's report

Last edited by E_T on 11-05-2004 at 09:54

	04-05-2004 09:20									#3
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*Bump*

Don't forget to send silks to CFC accepted!

	06-05-2004 04:53									#4
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Turn is here.

GWT has built Leonardo's Workshop in Flammburg.

So begins the final act...

	06-05-2004 05:43									#5
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Micco had just finished the turn, when I had asked him to delay sending it. I then asked him to send it to just Trip and myself and delay sending it "officially" for another day. So, he's going to do that and wait until tomorrow to send out the Official save, to Mongoose et al [EDIT] and post at UN[/edit]....

This gives us 1 more day on our planning.

If anyone wants the save, let Trip or me know.

E_T

	06-05-2004 05:46									#6
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I've begun a real planning thread for this invasion. You can find it here.

	08-05-2004 08:06									#7
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2 days later....

	08-05-2004 08:08									#8
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CDG went down... I wonder who has the save. Does anyone know?

	08-05-2004 10:29									#9
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We do Arne.

	08-05-2004 11:11									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Trip We do Arne.

It would help if I was actually SENT the save, you know

I have requested AGAIN for miccofl to please send saves to me.

	08-05-2004 11:43									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos CDG went down... I wonder who has the save. Does anyone know?

what the hell does CDG have to do with this??

	08-05-2004 11:44									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen what the hell does CDG have to do with this??

Well, if CDG goes down, that means that the turn tracking thread is down... are you starting to follow?

(not that CGN uses it anyhow...)

	08-05-2004 11:57									#13
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@ MZ

MZ: Play your turns!

	10-05-2004 12:10									#14
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After a quick chat with miccofl (dueling with my connection the entire time) I discovered that CGN will be able to contribute up to 360g. This means that the maximum gold (plan 3) is basically beyond our collective financial reach. However, plan 2 is still possible with a relatively large investment by CFC (~800+g).

because of these circumstances Arne and I have agreed in chat that plan 2 seems to be the best option now. However, in order to give E_T a bit more time to get things going and to give more opportunities to debate and let the situation sink in, we have decided to play the turn sometime tomorrow.

	10-05-2004 19:12									#15
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E_T,

Let me know when you're done with this. I can play the turn as soon as you are.

	10-05-2004 20:37									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Trip *Bump* Don't forget to send silks to CFC accepted!

Ditto

Dont let this get lost in all the "Raid on GWT" planning

	11-05-2004 06:52									#17
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I'm finally playing the turn now.

	11-05-2004 10:39									#18
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did you send the silks?

	11-05-2004 10:51									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen did you send the silks?

No. I made an executive decision not to send the silks. CFC doesn't need any stinkin' silks.

[/sarcasm] <----- for the comprehension-impared

	11-05-2004 10:52									#20
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Of course I sent the silks. Why does everyone ask that every 30 seconds?

	11-05-2004 10:53									#21
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Turn 176 - 600 A.D. Turn Report

Attendance
Arnelos
E_T
Trip (in and out)
Master Zen (in and out)
Kloreep (idle)
Togas (arrived late, idle)
conmcb25 (arrived late, idle)
MrWIA (left early, idle)

Foreign Affairs

120g gift from CGN accepted
60g and WM gift from CFC accepted
Silks and WM sent (accepted) to CFC

Christening

Hadrumetum (default name? Trip is getting lazy ) renamed to Cyrene, as voted on.
New Galley in Hispanica named AIS Retribution

Reconnaisance and Barb Hunting Forces

MI Igor (South) moves 4-7 and fortifies.

Assembling Strike Force

NM Sharpe, NM Enamel, and NM hungryopd (in PoV) move 9-9-9; headed for Mingapulco
NM ZargonX Reborn (at Del Monte 7-7) moves 6-6-3; headed for Mingapulco
NM MerZenary (at EN-3) moves 9-8-8; headed for Mingapulco
Sir E_T (at Equil-4) moves 6-6-6-6-9-6; headed for Mingapulco
Sir Bingo (at Del Monte-8) moves 6-9-6-6-9-9; headed for Mingapulco
Sir conMcKnight (at Solace-4) moves 8-8-9-8-8-8; headed for Mingapulco
Sir Bambi and Count of BFC (at AP-1) move 9-8-8-8-8-8; headed for Mingapulco
Sir BigKnight (at Freedom-6) moves 8-8-8-8-8-8; headed for Mingapulco
Sir Ennet (at Eiston Boulen-8) moves 8-8-8-8-9-8; headed for Mingapulco
Sir Trip, Sir HTower, and Sir Donegeal (at Chiquita-1) move 9-9-9-9-9-9; headed for Mingapulco

Naval Forces

Sir Vondrack (up north) moves 4-9 (loading onto AIS Seeker)
AIS Seeker (up north) moves 6-2-2
AIS Assassin (in lake) moves 3-3-2 into PoV
AIS Hunter (off of Equilibrium) moves 9-6-3; heading for HoD
AIS Retribution (in Hisp) moves 1-1-2 into HoD; will remain awaiting upgrade
AIS Vengeance (at Mu-8) moves 7-7-7; headed for Incensity

Workers

Frodo & Out of Darkness (at Antler-9-9) move 9-9-9
Otto (at HoD-1) starts mine
PG 1 to 6 (at AP-7-7) move 9
Silky & Yo (at Silk-3) start road
Screech (at Heroes'-1-1) starts road
Sanchez (at Freedom-7) starts road
Grumpy (at EN-1) start mine
PG 9 to 12 (at Eisten Boulen-8) move 7-4 and mine (done)
PG 7 & PG 8 (at EN-1-4) start road
Spike & Moosefart (at Del Monte-2) road (done)
Dan, LAN, & Gits (at Mongoose-2) road (done)
Lib & Slave Farb (at Mongoose-3) start road
Horse & Squid (at MemFirax-1) start clearing jungle

Settlers

Settler Chiquita B founds Mauretania at Site #9
Settler Apolyton Refugees founds Remembrance at Site #11
Settler Equilibrium Refugees moves 1 and founds Thunder Bay at Site #19

Western Defense Forces

MI BigFurryInfantry (at Silk colony) moves 6-3-3
MI Vlad Antlerkov (at Silk colony) skips turn
NM NuclearMercenary (at Equil-4) moves 6 to Equil and forts

Southern Defense Forces

None

Core Defense Forces

NM Ghengis (at Eye-9) moves 8-9-8; Will stand over iron until ready to be cut
MI Alva (at Antler-9) moves 6-9 and forts; will stand over iron until ready to be cut

Economy

AI Governor set to emphasis Production in ALL CITIES

Mauretania starts Wealth
Remembrance starts Wealth
Thunder Bay starts Courthouse
Mingapulco switched to Longbow for 11 shield (44 gold) shortrush, then switched to Knight
Bananatopia switched to Knight
Dominus switched to Catapult for 3 shield (12 gold) shortrush, then switched to Barracks
Tripoli switched to Knight
Hispanica starts Galley
Heart of Darkness switches to Musket for 3 shield (12 gold) shortrush, then switched to Harbor
Zenophobia switched to Granary
Lumentis Bananis switched to Galley
Mongoose Abyss switched to Galley
Protuberance switched to Galley

WF Placements

Mauretania set to 6
Remembrance set to 8
Thunder Bay set to 20
Chiquita set to 1-2-5-6-8-13
Dominus set to 1-2-6-8-19
Tripoli set to 2-7-9-17-18-19
Mu set to 18
Power of Victory set to 3-9-10-14
Karina set to 3-4-11-13-17-18
BigBend set to 1-3-4-6-8
Del Monte set to 4-10-11
Heart of Darkness set to 3-4-10-13-17-18
Zenophobia set to 1-2-4
Down Under set to 2-10-12
Mongoose Abyss set to 5
Vox Publica set to 20
Memoria Firaxia set to 8
Lumentis Bananis set to 3-13-15

Demographics

Approval Rating: 72% (2nd)
Population: 4035000 (3rd)
GNP: 459 million (2nd)
Mfg. Goods: 166 megatons (2nd)
Land Area: 43400 square miles (2nd)
Literacy: 12% (1st)
Disease: 5% (4th)
Pollution: 0 tons (1st)
Life Expectancy: 27 years (4th)
Family Size: 1 children (1st)
Military Service: 5 years (4th)
Annual Income: 7 per capita (1st)
Productivity: 616 (2nd)

Top 5 Cities
1. Parthemuende (GWT) - Pop 12 (Pyramids, Colossus)
2. Aarhus (CGN*) - Pop 12
3. Webringen (GWT*) - Pop 12
4. Floral Park (CGN) - Pop 12 (starving)
5. Shen Ling (CFC*) - Pop 6

Miscellaneous and End Turn

Slider: 50/50/0 (Tax/Research/Lux)
Treasury: 375 Gold
Net Income: +46 GPT
Research: Astronomy (at 186 bpt, "3 turns")
Strong to GCA
Strong to CGN
Strong to CFC
Weak to GWT
No Barbarian Tribes near us

Science Power: 350 bpt
Currency Power: 372 gpt
NOTE: "Science Power" is bpt at 100% Research. "Currency Power" is GPT at 100% Tax minus GPT at 100% Research.

Turn saved and sent at 12:59 a.m. EDT on Tuesday, May 11 (0459 GMT on Tuesday, May 11) to:

msdg@civfanatics.net
intersitepbem@mongoose201.com

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Last edited by Kloreep on 11-05-2004 at 10:58

	11-05-2004 11:03									#22
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Thanks again to Kloreep for posting the screenshots for me.

	11-05-2004 11:35									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Assembling Strike Force NM Sharpe, NM Enamel, and NM hungryopd (in PoV) move 9-9-9; headed for Mingapulco

Given that you had me fighting barbs during the GCA war, I want to be first on the beach against GWT.

	11-05-2004 12:52									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel Given that you had me fighting barbs during the GCA war, I want to be first on the beach against GWT.

I figured you'd want in on this. I picked you out of the various NM available in Power of Victory to head up and join this assault.

	11-05-2004 13:04									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Christening Hadrumetum (default name? Trip is getting lazy )

GETTING???



E_T

	11-05-2004 22:47									#26
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For Conquest
Before buiding any cities this turn:
US: 19% land area, 23% Pop (F11 - 4005000 - 3rd)
After building Remembrance (11 tiles):
US: 20% land area, 23% Pop (F11 - 4015000 - 3rd)
After building Thunder Bay (9 tiles):
US: 20% land area, 24% Pop (F11 - 4025000 - 3rd)
After building Mauretania (8 tiles):
US: 20% land area, 24% Pop (F11 - 4035000 - 3rd)

Top Rivals:
Land area - GWT with 22%
Pop - GWT with 40%

For Culture
US: City of Banantopia - 211; Entire Civ - 1105
Top Rivals:
City - Parthemunde/GWT (with Pyramids) - 1030
Entire Civ - CGN - 3677

E_T

	11-05-2004 23:01									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Assembling Strike Force NM Sharpe, NM Enamel, and NM hungryopd (in PoV) move 9-9-9; headed for Mingapulco Sir conMcKnight (at Solace-4) moves 8-8-9-8-8-8; headed for Mingapulco

H_E, old friend, its looks like we are both off to war.

After doing palace guard forever and cutting iron, Im chomping at the bit to get in on the action. You cover my back and Ill cover yours

	12-05-2004 00:06									#28
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quote: Pop - GWT with 40%

Christ, that a lot of pop. If we come back and win this thing, it will be quite a victory!

-Arrian

	12-05-2004 12:13									#29
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Well - we don't have that much less land to work on.

(will be different if CGN goes down, of course)

	12-05-2004 12:31									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Christ, that a lot of pop. If we come back and win this thing, it will be quite a victory! -Arrian

just imagine the bragging rights....