30-11-2004 17:51									#421
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This sucks. The latest version is over a month old, and I have still not had any time to playtest this .

	01-12-2004 15:15									#422
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- go on you know you want to give it a go Solver

I have only got past the new Apolyton Edition[version 14/9/2004 Jbytheway link] title screen(it looks sooooo good) and haven't even moved my settlers yet!

Still its all for a good cause as i've been writeing up some newbie advice on the UI and what all the options do - using Locutus's template. CTP2 has an awful amount of options.....often there are two ways in the UI to access this info(add keyboard shortcuts on top and thats three!). So it will be a few weeks before i get to properly play the new build.

Here's a thought on the music - it appears to be fixed onto the cd, or i just cant seem to find the music files? I'm trying to get past the 'same track repeating' bug that came with the game. I think some one had fixed this a while ago? or atleast had a work around - i was hopeing to run the tracks with winamp?
Is it within the scope of the Source code project to get this fixed in the Apolyton build - is it worth fixing?

EDIT:

Oh and the build(i guess the latest) in the CTP2 directory doesn't come with the new title screen(i guess because the MP buttons dont work in the new title screen?).

	01-12-2004 19:18									#423
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor Here's a thought on the music - it appears to be fixed onto the cd, or i just cant seem to find the music files? I'm trying to get past the 'same track repeating' bug that came with the game. I think some one had fixed this a while ago? or atleast had a work around - i was hopeing to run the tracks with winamp? Is it within the scope of the Source code project to get this fixed in the Apolyton build - is it worth fixing?

Actually the music switch off bug and the same track repeating bug should be fixed. At least I don't hear a track again and again when I use the random track option from the music screen.

To the audio files: Indeed the are hidden on the CD, but they are there, for instance with a share ware program like Audiograbber you can extract the files.

quote: Originally posted by child of Thor Oh and the build(i guess the latest) in the CTP2 directory doesn't come with the new title screen(i guess because the MP buttons dont work in the new title screen?).

Actually the version in the directory is hopeless outdated, therefore should better leave the fingers from it.

-Martin

	09-12-2004 03:37									#424
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Time to try the latest build methought.

I did a fresh install of CTP2 from the CD. Fired it up and it ran.

Unzipped the two playtest .rar over the top.

Now it won't run. The error message is

"MSVCP70.DLL not found"

I checked the CTP directory and there is a MSVCP60.DLL

What do I do?

	09-12-2004 04:02									#425
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I think it might be a good idea to have a "pinned" thread with a download link and some installation instructions. The link could be updated as new versions become available.

This thread is waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy to long.

	09-12-2004 05:29									#426
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I think this can fix the dll

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...464#post3466464


yes its way too long now..

	09-12-2004 05:41									#427
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Thats like only 9 posts above, but yeah an installation thread updated as it goes would be helpful.

	09-12-2004 08:59									#428
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Thanks, its all go now. Some initial comments (already).

Scroll speed.
I am running a 2.8Ghz processor and the scrolling is way too fast especially in the horizontal direction. The vertical is not too bad. The scroll speed is determined by how the scroll is "blitted" in the graphics engine. Ideally a delay should be built in which is read from the userprofile or some other config file. Can this be achieved?

Autosave
Currently a single autosave file is created. I have frequently been caught out because the problem I am trying to "rectify" has already been saved. Ideally the last autosave should be renamed to "oldautosave" before a new one is created.

Fortifying a unit in a city
Very minor but annoying. Normally when a unit is fortified in a city it "disappears" into the city. If however the unit is the last active unit in the current turn this does not happen.

More to follow.

	09-12-2004 13:53									#429
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I have a recommendation a blue dot at the side of the last save to help you find it

	09-12-2004 19:52									#430
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I've just noticed a strange behaviour in my latest game with the newest playtest build. All units which are located in my area don't have a full life bar. They all are missing the same amount which you can see in the attached picture. The life bar doesn't change if the units are resting. I didn't saw any message which could explain this change of the life bars. Bug or feature?

Attachment: lifebar.jpg
This has been downloaded 99 time(s).

	09-12-2004 20:00									#431
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Did you lower your military readiness setting?

	09-12-2004 20:45									#432
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Hmmm, yes I reduced the military readiness by one.

	09-12-2004 21:07									#433
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There you go then, its working correctly

	09-12-2004 21:17									#434
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Thanks a lot. Next time I'll try to read the manual more carefully

	09-12-2004 21:19									#435
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quote: Originally posted by Tinsinte Thanks a lot. Next time I'll try to read the manual more carefully

Dont bother. At best its outdated and misinforming.

Keep your observations coming here insted

	09-12-2004 22:24									#436
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Can i have the latest version ? The October or eventually
the November or after ?

Big thanks to you !

I have joined your group

CTP2 a very rich game, more rich than Civ3

	09-12-2004 22:30									#437
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Can i have the latest version ? The October or eventually
the November or after ?

Big thanks to you !

I have joined your group

CTP2 a very rich game, more rich than Civ3

	10-12-2004 01:32									#438
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I am fairly certain that October the 20th is the latest version:

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...ytest.part1.rar
http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...ytest.part2.rar

	10-12-2004 02:39									#439
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In what repertory unrar the two .rar ?

The patch 1.1 of CTP 2 is it necessary ?

I have the US version shipped less one week ago.

Thanks ! I will wait tomorrow because i must sleep

	10-12-2004 02:42									#440
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Whether you have 1.1 or not doesn't matter anymore, this thing has anything that 1.1 had.

Unrar in your main CtP folder, I think - c:\program files\activision\call to power 2, probably.

	10-12-2004 06:09									#441
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Diplomacy

There have always been problems with this. They are still there.

I was beating the Vikings badly having taken quite a few cities from them.

I offered ceasefire in exchange for map - no deal
I offered ceasefire no requests at all - no deal
Next turn they offer ceasefire! - accept

I then offer to exchange maps - no deal
I offer a CITY in exchange for map - no deal!
That's ridiculous.

Surely we can come up with something better than this.

	10-12-2004 06:14									#442
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quote: Originally posted by Lou Wigman Diplomacy There have always been problems with this. They are still there. I was beating the Vikings badly having taken quite a few cities from them. I offered ceasefire in exchange for map - no deal I offered ceasefire no requests at all - no deal Next turn they offer ceasefire! - accept I then offer to exchange maps - no deal I offer a CITY in exchange for map - no deal! That's ridiculous. Surely we can come up with something better than this.

I wouldn't exchange maps with someone who was on the verge of conquering me. Showing the enemy where your last remaining cities are is not worth any bribes they could give me.

	10-12-2004 06:35									#443
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except for not accepting your first ceasefire, i really didnt see much with that exchange. now alliances (which is hard to code) thats an issue...

quote: Originally posted by Lou Wigman Diplomacy There have always been problems with this. They are still there. I was beating the Vikings badly having taken quite a few cities from them. I offered ceasefire in exchange for map - no deal I offered ceasefire no requests at all - no deal Next turn they offer ceasefire! - accept I then offer to exchange maps - no deal I offer a CITY in exchange for map - no deal! That's ridiculous. Surely we can come up with something better than this.

	10-12-2004 12:11									#444
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Whether you have 1.1 or not doesn't matter anymore, this thing has anything that 1.1 had. Unrar in your main CtP folder, I think - c:\program files\activision\call to power 2, probably.

A poblem with this two files, they seem to have same files and folders for me

No problem, isn't it ?

	10-12-2004 13:11									#445
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Warlord,
Did you get part 1 AND part 2? Upon casual observation, the first few files appear to be the same, but there are great differences between part 1 and part 2. There are many more TGA files in part 1. I have play tested it and found that it works very well so far.

Hats off to the many people who are hammering out the code. Eventually, there will be a simpler way to get it. But for now, the rar files seem to be the best we can do. The fact that two rar files are needed attests to the work that is being poured into this project.

	10-12-2004 14:46									#446
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I can see same folders but this folders can contains differents files ? ok

	10-12-2004 19:28									#447
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Why in diplomacy can I give away my last city?

	10-12-2004 19:54									#448
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quote: Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred I can see same folders but this folders can contains differents files ? ok

Welcome Abdul Alhazred, don't worry about the names in the second rar file, though the names are similar the files inside are not. Just unzip the whole lot into your CtP2 folder and click "yes to all" when you are asked whether you want to replace the files or not (if the software does not ask this question, it means that you have not unzipped the files in the right folder).

After this, go here and download the zip file holding all the latest French strings. Unzip the files in the French folder that should be in C:\Program Files\Activision\Call To Power 2\ctp2_data and replace the files here.

Have fun!


N'est pas mort ce qui à jamais dort...

	10-12-2004 22:10									#449
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quote: Originally posted by The Big Mc Why in diplomacy can I give away my last city?

Because this is left to the player's own stupidity. Maybe we should add a player's stupidity protection.

-Martin

	10-12-2004 22:59									#450
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I like the fact the big mc even tried it